After gushing about Abudwaq/Marehan Country roads to Warder, it is obvious Ethio military is behind these great tracks.

[Hulkujir]

I know it's in your interest to learn Amharic.
However, subahanallah our ancestors must be turning in their graves.

amharic is a great language and is afro-asiatic just like Somali, it even has alot of cushetic loan words, the hatred for Habesha by Somalis i quite weird and misplaced, in the Habesha collective psyche Somalis appeared in two glimpses, during Ahmed Gurey and during Siyad Barre, very far in between, they have no time to hate people they barely know of their existence, meanwhile Somalis are constantly obsessing over them, Somalis are like racist polaks shaqo yeesha.

[original dervish]

From Menelik till present, the Amharas have been committing genocide, atrocities and ethnic cleansing against the Somali population.

[Murax]

Original Dervish,

Not sure id Sbashi is trolling or serious. If serious thats very disappointing.


That said tbh Somalis hate of Ethiopians is getting to the point of being irrational. I say that because Somalis are their own worst enemies. The xaasidnimo, cuqdad, Somalis have for each other is 1000x deeper and than any hatred Eithos could have for Somalis. If I was president of Somalia I wouldn’t care about battles that took place 60 years ago. The Somalis of today are not the Somalis of yesterday.

[Sbashi]

Original Dervish,

Not sure id Sbashi is trolling or serious. If serious thats very disappointing.


That said tbh Somalis hate of Ethiopians is getting to the point of being irrational. I say that because Somalis are their own worst enemies. The xaasidnimo, cuqdad, Somalis have for each other is 1000x deeper and than any hatred Eithos could have for Somalis. If I was president of Somalia I wouldn’t care about battles that took place 60 years ago. The Somalis of today are not the Somalis of yesterday.

Why would you think that's disappointing saxib? We are Ethiopians .

[original dervish]

Original Dervish,

Not sure id Sbashi is trolling or serious. If serious thats very disappointing.


That said tbh Somalis hate of Ethiopians is getting to the point of being irrational. I say that because Somalis are their own worst enemies. The xaasidnimo, cuqdad, Somalis have for each other is 1000x deeper and than any hatred Eithos could have for Somalis. If I was president of Somalia I wouldn’t care about battles that took place 60 years ago. The Somalis of today are not the Somalis of yesterday.

I can agree with most of what you said.
However, for the Amharas, Tigreans and Oromo the process of genocide against Somalis has never stoped.
It may take different forms and methods, but is ongoing.
Ask the Ciise, Karaanle, Geri etc.......nothing has changed.

[balwarama]

Many of you have not suffered massacre after massacre of Habeshas so you have the luxury of taking it easy.
Read some of the records of English explorers in the late 19th Century and early 20th century.
We Ogadens will always fight and hate them

[Gubbet]

I also do not understand this irrational obsession with Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is TODAY trying to problem solve in the Las Anod crisis as the only force possible (not even the US) who can interject to stop an entire Somali clan and its Shayuukh and Shariif running over each other in their desire to committe genocide against another Somali clan before they implicate a catastrophic inter Somali civil war of epic proportions. And why are they tripping over themselves to want to genocide the people of Las Anod? Because they fought and defeated European colonialism before and do not wish to be subjected to anything regarding anything that has to do with colonialism?

No one is saying the Marehan of Garbahaarey is learning Amharic (although truthfully I would make it compulsory that Somali primary students are proficient Maay speakers before secondary school and secondary students are proficient Amharic, Swahili, and Arabic speakers),but the Marehan of Fadhigaraadle is in ETHIOPIA. He has never known either the Italian or the British and he has never known the authority of the country of Somalia other than couple weeks in 1977 war.

That is his national language. He is an Ethiopian. Everybody recognizes Fadhigaraadle to be Ethiopia including the Somali government.

The fact that the Marehan in Fadhigaraadle does not speak Amharic is a profound failure in Marehan as a social group when the next village of Caleen speams Amharic and uses it state organs against him.

Caleen is not more Ethiopian than Fadhigaraadle. It is not more legitimate. I would even wager Addis Ababa'a federal political security structure would turn over in cartwheels were Fadhigaraadle never supposed to have representated the view point of the Marehan of the past which cause so much hostility between the two neighbors.

When the Somali is in North America, he learns English. When in Sweden, he learns Swedish. When in Kenya, he learns Swahili.


It is time Fadhigaraadle and Lasacaano and Cilaanle amd Qorof and Yamaarugley and even Balanbale and Caabudwaaq became proficient Amharic speakers!

[Gubbet]

Many have not suffered massacre after massacre of Habeshas so you have the luxury of taking it easy.
Read some of the records of English explorers in the late 19th Century and early 20th century.
We Ogadens will always fight and hate them

Excuse me---that is your business.

I can say you didn't suffer ANYTHING compared to what Menguste Haile Mariam did to the Marehan of Shilaabo to this day 45 years later making me this dispossessed of large part of their historical territory.

That was me specifically! That was my dad's ancestral village! That was my literally great-uncles and cousins 2 or 3 removed who were dropped like flies between Shilaabo and Balanbale.

Go away dude. Go focking away and take whatever you have to say to YOUR OWN PEOPLE! REALLY TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE!

Go and take it to Dhagaxbuur and Qabridahar. Go!

[balwarama]

I know the history that Marehan were displaced from the Ceelgaab area. First by SSDF and then Hawiye-USC.
I'm also not against, Marehan seeking recognition from Ethiopia for their territories. I don't think though, you should suck up to them, this much, after all they came to your Country and occupied it. Hit them hard and then talk to them.
That is mostly what we do.
Plus, we can't remain eternal enemies when we are Moslem/Somali brothers and have a stronger enemy that is occupying us all.

[Gubbet]

Ah, you have no idea. I wrote this 3 years ago;

[Forget the color highlights, that's something I will talk about below]

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4976010

Where is my homeland sxb? My homeland and my dad's family are all originally from Qalqalooc, Ulasan, Laba baar, iyo Baarmagoog in Shilaabo but not a single soul is left there. They all crossed over into Somalia after the Ethiopians and Kulmis started their reprisal campaign in 1981. The ones that didn't move to Somalia at that time all ended up there sporadically after qaxii.

Waxii haray Balanbale ayeey isku gureen and the Shabelle Irir Conglomeration and the Cayr in Matabaan attack from the southern and southwest side during the USC days similarly caused the Bah-Xawaadle and Bah-Daarandoole to move in tight like Wagardhac.

Dhulkii oo iska empty ah baa upto Ceel Habreed would the Shabelle Conglomeration and Cayr graze ("daaq") coming in from Feerfeer.

They could never pass Ceel Habreed as this is Ethiopia and they are not recognized in the land but as the Reer Hassan and Wagardhac succeeded, the bah-Xawaadle have recently started talks with Ethiopia.


Even the Ethiopian government has never changed the recognized deegaan and society. Waa la yaabay wallahi, they dug out some old unused file showing the "Chief" they last recognized for the locality of Ceelgaab (the whole zone) was "Chief Cusman-Nuur Yusuf" (Reer Cabdille Siyaad).

Things are changing.

Sxb, this is why I literally DESPISE any Marehan person who still shows the old, irrelevant, ridiculous Ethiopian blah blah blab.

We were pushed from the West after sacrificing for SOMALINIMO and the yamyam and qadaadweyn repaid us with 1992 when we literally had the whole Irir then attack us from the East.

NEVER EVER SHOULD MAREHAN BE PART OF ANY HOSTILITIES EITH ETHIOPIA EVER AGAIN.

That is the ENTIRE modus operandi ninkaan caqli la' ee Mahadalla uu isku halaynayo.

In his small calculations and WAXAAN BARNAY, be thinks "MAREEXAAN IS JUST THE LINE BOUNDARY".

He doesn't know Ugaaska Marexaan is at NEEF KU CELIYE literally dhawaaq hearing distance from Wardheer.

He doesn't even see the Mareexaan distance to each other from Caabudwaaq to Neef ku celiye ama Fadhi Garaadle is the same distance from Cadaado to Harardheere.

Why doesn't he see it?

BECAUSE MAREHAN BUU KA BARTAY.

They occupy half of Galaadi zone, 1/3 of Wardheer, 1/2 of Qoroxeey including 60-70% of Shilaabo and 1/3 of Feerfeer.

Yet, NEVER has Marehan even THOUGHT to join Ethiopia politically.

He lives in the land, yet Ogaadeen/Makaahiil ama Bah Geri ama Majeerteen baa kursiga ku qaadanayo.

Anagaa waxaas isku keenay.

And how stupendously magnanimous those talks have been. It is part of why I went to criss cross the land!

Why I geocoded! Why Marehan---especiallly MYSELF---have such a difficult time recognizing just how far they have come in just couple years!

Literally this was unimaginable 2-4 years ago just how much things have changed between MX and Addis in terms of legal recognition.

Get a district to their name os cherry on the topping. We already have so much to celerabte wallahi? Everything from here on will run on inertia like a rolled wheel.

This is 80 years in the making!

[Gubbet]

I will also add 2 things

1. Starting at Bangeelle village, the tracks in Caabudwaaq have no rocks. None. Waa completely soft, blood red, compact soil. It is like that completely through Marehan territory until you get to the Ethiopian road connecting Galadi and Wardheer.

You can only understand how special that type of soil is for travel when you realize---OUTSIDE of rain---that track is easier, faster, and even more efficient for motor travel than dilapidated road, even mildly unkept paved road.

Wallahi anytime I left Caabudwaaq to go West, the car traveled 55+- Miles Per Hour (MPH). For reference, in the US, freeways have a speed limit of 60 MPH. In Caabudwaaq to Raqo for example, when the land flat and clear, multiple times the car reached close to 70 MPH.

For example, I traveled from Mogadishu to Afgooye once and, forget how ridiculous travel was in Mog (and Hargeisa tbh) because of the degredation of the pavement, you spend more tippy toeing around potholes than traveling---but we didn't pass 40 MPH between Mog and Afgooye

But literally inside Caabudwaaq and through it across Marehan country, on average you can go as far as the same as US freeway and even 70's MPH when coast is clear.

The soft, blood red compact soil has 1.) no rocks, none whatsoever and 2) when compact (any place you put your foot down or a motor vehicle goes through once) is as structurally sturdy enough as condensed gravel. In fact the compact, red soil of Caabudwaaq without rocks is actually buoyant forming as shock absorber over the wheels and alignment. This is why Rer Caabudwaaq vehicles last considerably longer than their neighbors.

I actually even describe the travel as pleasant and comfortable. It is sort of like invisible sturdy road "on clouds." Was very relaxing wallahi.

Good video out today between Caabudwaaq and Duuban that shows what I was trying to describe.

Pay attention to;

1. How linear or lineal; the track isn't paved but it isn't accidental either, there is intentional design

2. Smoothness, there isn't a single rock in that ochre sand, conversely observe the drive has no bump,

3. Speed; altogether he is cruising, just smooth sailing

[Video has more definition watching on Facebook them embedded apparently]

[Bonus is the landscape; it is literally so peculiarly a foresty savannah]

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I know it's in your interest to learn Amharic.
However, subahanallah our ancestors must be turning in their graves.

They’re all coons it’s like that

[Gubbet]

I will also add 2 things

1. Starting at Bangeelle village, the tracks in Caabudwaaq have no rocks. None. Waa completely soft, blood red, compact soil. It is like that completely through Marehan territory until you get to the Ethiopian road connecting Galadi and Wardheer.

You can only understand how special that type of soil is for travel when you realize---OUTSIDE of rain---that track is easier, faster, and even more efficient for motor travel than dilapidated road, even mildly unkept paved road.

Wallahi anytime I left Caabudwaaq to go West, the car traveled 55+- Miles Per Hour (MPH). For reference, in the US, freeways have a speed limit of 60 MPH. In Caabudwaaq to Raqo for example, when the land flat and clear, multiple times the car reached close to 70 MPH.

For example, I traveled from Mogadishu to Afgooye once and, forget how ridiculous travel was in Mog (and Hargeisa tbh) because of the degredation of the pavement, you spend more tippy toeing around potholes than traveling---but we didn't pass 40 MPH between Mog and Afgooye

But literally inside Caabudwaaq and through it across Marehan country, on average you can go as far as the same as US freeway and even 70's MPH when coast is clear.

The soft, blood red compact soil has 1.) no rocks, none whatsoever and 2) when compact (any place you put your foot down or a motor vehicle goes through once) is as structurally sturdy enough as condensed gravel. In fact the compact, red soil of Caabudwaaq without rocks is actually buoyant forming as shock absorber over the wheels and alignment. This is why Rer Caabudwaaq vehicles last considerably longer than their neighbors.

I actually even describe the travel as pleasant and comfortable. It is sort of like invisible sturdy road "on clouds." Was very relaxing wallahi.

The only problem is when it rains---which is not a great problem, since rain is the exception not the norm.

Probably no single video that I have seen captures the essence of what I described above than this video out this week between Caabudwaaq and n Lan Dodole (Laan Dowdowle).




1. Notice the ochre sand with no rocks
2. Notice the smoothness of the ride
3. Notice the speed of the vehicle.

For bonus notice the clearly distinguishable difference in grazing, flora, and even nature west of Caabudwaaq into 'Marehan Country ' and east of Caabudwaaq into Somalia. East of Abudwaq is like entering Mars whereas here heading west we actually see a forest as forest can get in Somali country.

[Gubbet]

At 0:24 the guy being turned around in blue shirt is Ayaanle (Tumaal), a son of Caabudwaaq who rose to become the single highest paid reporter in Galmudug having risen from make himself the most important local journalist from Caabudwaaq. I met him in Caabudwaaq to do a piece for a local development project I was part of for Caabudwaaq.

Geela Mareexaan waxeey la hogor waaweyn yihiin waakas, they are just free grazing on mareer in MX Country.