Our 18th and 19th centuries leader Uleex Faarax and exchanging poetry with Raage Ugaas

[Gubbet]

Even with video evidence showing garasle is mx they still claim it because they also have video evidence of their "garasle".

Huh?

What video evidence do they have claiming Garasle of Shilabo the historical settlement just southeast of Shilabo town between there and Fadhigaraadle?

Btw my posting the above video was because of its convenience, what Garasle is and who lives there is available in gazillion documentation including Somali Region authorities and State security community liasons.

But since you mentioned it, kindly provide me with a video purporting to show HG in Garasle because I have never seen it.

[Gubbet]

habit kulaha, we all know this excuse is an darood cope after they lost a vast lands to HGs.

[Facebook "Pics"]

Oh forgoodnessake, be gone you wretch. I have never seen such an insecure carpetbagger!

[Kees70]

Guuleysta HGs

[Kees70]

habit kulaha, we all know this excuse is an darood cope after they lost a vast lands to HGs.

[Facebook "Pics"]

Oh forgoodnessake, be gone you wretch. I have never seen such an insecure carpetbagger!

stop mentioning us HGs 24 Hours obsessively you freak!

[Sbashi]

Even with video evidence showing garasle is mx they still claim it because they also have video evidence of their "garasle".

Huh?

What video evidence do they have claiming Garasle of Shilabo the historical settlement just southeast of Shilabo town between there and Fadhigaraadle?

Btw my posting the above video was because of its convenience, what Garasle is and who lives there is available in gazillion documentation including Somali Region authorities and State security community liasons.

But since you mentioned it, kindly provide me with a video purporting to show HG in Garasle because I have never seen it.

It's literally a video of a grassy area with goats and a word edit of "garasle" photoshopped on the video. Might include one or two jiingad in the distance. That's why I said their garasle. I don't have the video now but I saw it while I was searching garasle lababaar on Facebook.

[Sbashi]

habit kulaha, we all know this excuse is an darood cope after they lost a vast lands to HGs.

[Facebook "Pics"]

Oh forgoodnessake, be gone you wretch. I have never seen such an insecure carpetbagger!

stop mentioning us HGs 24 Hours obsessively you freak!

You're not even trying with these posts these days kees. You used to bring ones with at least some relevance. Your rate was 30% relevance. Are you getting tired now that it isn't as fun?

[Gubbet]

Guuleysta HGs

We know HG are in the Lababar area like literally every post I made in this topic confirms it.

I don't understand your interjection unless it is to say you are there for "now."

The truth is, Lababar is like a Marehan leg in Hiiraan with both Hiraab and Hawadle wenting them out.

There is only "Darod" everywhere Hawiye looks in Shilabo, specifically Marehan to the north, northeast and northwest and Bah Geri to the west, southwest, and south.

Both want them out and they want them out equally as strongly.

You can't move "forward" and you don't face any prospect of "staying" put.

Truth is, they will be pushed back out of Shilabo just like you got pushed back out of Geladi.

Neither MX or MJ wanted you in Geladi and nor Bah Geri or MX want you in Shilabo either.

It is unfortunate, but that is what this is and HW would be the same to us too.

What is going to happen is inevitable. Good luck.

[Gubbet]

Even with video evidence showing garasle is mx they still claim it because they also have video evidence of their "garasle".

Huh?

What video evidence do they have claiming Garasle of Shilabo the historical settlement just southeast of Shilabo town between there and Fadhigaraadle?

Btw my posting the above video was because of its convenience, what Garasle is and who lives there is available in gazillion documentation including Somali Region authorities and State security community liasons.

But since you mentioned it, kindly provide me with a video purporting to show HG in Garasle because I have never seen it.

It's literally a video of a grassy area with goats and a word edit of "garasle" photoshopped on the video. Might include one or two jiingad in the distance. That's why I said their garasle. I don't have the video now but I saw it while I was searching garasle lababaar on Facebook.

That's not video evidence at all or any kind of "evidence."

What you are describing seems to be this?

And understand---I am not talking about random mix of random photos from random anywhere ala TikTok video style with random music from "Lababar Media" on Facebook who reads these discussions and youngishly responds reactionarily.

It is not even a "shared" settlement. Marehan do not "share" a settlement with any group in centeal plateau. They don't share Caabudwaaq town, or Balanbale town or Dhabad or Saaxo ..or Garasle. You would even laughingly get those Ogaden kids in thos topics say "we share Laasacaaano and Fadhigaraadle"----no, no one lives with Marehan in Fadhigaraadle and Laasacaano. No one there or Garasle or Goohwayne or Axmed Gureey to Xassan Cawl! And

The fact that you even called it video "evidence" is problematic and presented need to discuss something not implicated by natural need for discussion.

Evidence implies something like the video I shared with the report by one of the most sought after journalists of Galmudug (Ayaanle who is Tumaal) accompanying Ugaas Mohamed-Keyse on that trip. He costs a pretty penny to book as well.

Video evidence, sxb, is not putting together nonsense with a "tag" saying "Garasle."

These people feed off of misinformation and confusion. We unintentionally give them a vulnerability to exploit when we do not speak clearly and concisely wallahi.

I do not mince words for a reason because I know they have nothing else to rely on except to twist the reality.

[sahal80]

Damn all this bc i mentioned Garasle and Shilaabo

Please stop it you are killing my thread by moving it to the clan section no one will be able to read it im doing this for my Uleex Faarax so some can read this history. Full stop.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

Guuleysta HGs

We know HG are in the Lababar area like literally every post I made in this topic confirms it.

I don't understand your interjection unless it is to say you are there for "now."

The truth is, Lababar is like a Marehan leg in Hiiraan with both Hiraab and Hawadle wenting them out.

There is only "Darod" everywhere Hawiye looks in Shilabo, specifically Marehan to the north, northeast and northwest and Bah Geri to the west, southwest, and south.

Both want them out and they want them out equally as strongly.

You can't move "forward" and you don't face any prospect of "staying" put.

Truth is, they will be pushed back out of Shilabo just like you got pushed back out of Geladi.

Neither MX or MJ wanted you in Geladi and nor Bah Geri or MX want you in Shilabo either.

It is unfortunate, but that is what this is and HW would be the same to us too.

What is going to happen is inevitable. Good luck.

Lmao the delulu is strong in this one.. We don't even share borders abti. Besides you are just a laangaab.

From Feerfer areas across the river that is where we live and Ayr to the north and Reer-Aw Hassan who border you from the south border us from the north. Besides if you were being truthful you would have taken the richer lands that I sit on.. Pushed out from where? Lmao you live in a desolate area while we are the once living in areas the river starts from deep inside Hiiraan in the Jalalagsi area all the way inside Ethiopia. How come I have the better lands and you are isolated on a desolate area. You can see who got pushed out from where.. Your pastorals would want to change lands with us in Ethiopia area not the other way around but it ain't happening in any sunday..

Map may not be entirely correct but you get my point.


Besides the Ayr that we border from the north try to push their way into the regions the river runs thru not your areas. You live in a deslote area and besides even Caabuudwaq itself sits right on the border between Somalia and Ethiopia.

Laangaab kaa aa tahay Was You really think you can rewrite maps.. All you can do is put lines on 4 pastoral villages where there is not even civilizations as you may know everything on the Ethiopian area are still pastoral communities

[Gubbet]

That's what was "done" to thousands and thousands of Darood in Mogadishu in 1991 which is even strictly celebrated as "legitimate" "HAG" machinations behind "Benadir State" so as to be legally privileged with the dispossession and displacement that occurred in the nation's capital primarily on "clan grounds."

That is what is really behind "federalism."

That is why there is none of even the historical Marehan "community" of Dhuusamareeb or Gelinsoor in those places regardless of how small or large it may or may not have been.

That is why there is none of the historical HG community in Balanbale or Dudub regardless of the same

That is why there is no Marehan community in Cadaado, in Guriceel,, etc and no Hawiye community in Caabudwaaq or Dhabad.

That is why even, opposite to Darod displacement from Mogadishu in 1991, most recently you saw Hawiye displacement from Kaxandhaale or Dacdheer, etc.

It is unfortunate but there is a very clearly observable trajectory that Somalis have been on which is a seriously exclusionary, even segregationist course for more than a quarter century and like Mogadishu has shown with 5+ generations uprooted, this trajectory will not respect or stop for how long one has been a local.

This is clear and even just the fact Lababar and this land is now once again subject of discussion when it never has been before (including by me---as I recall even with the gentleman who started this topic I used to implicate the reality for me then of "I moved on to Jubba") is because my community has now implicated a different reality of "I will have the Jubba---and "all' of my historical land here, as well."

The fact there is even this implication already forecloses the number of options this issue will possibly conclude in.



There is a Darod ocean in Shilabo andba HW sea in Lababaar. The ocean doesn't go out to sea; the sea goes out to Ocean.

It is more likely the outcome will reflect the settlement trajectory in full swing rather than the inverse.

[Gubbet]

MandalorianDuulay-

Nobody can have that much online footprint with such proclivity for shapeshifting and multiple identities and not be seriously disturbed.

Stop. For your own well-being.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

That's what was "done" to thousands and thousands of Darood in Mogadishu in 1991 which is even strictly celebrated as "legitimate" "HAG" machinations behind "Benadir State" so as to be legally privileged with the dispossession and displacement that occurred in the nation's capital primarily on "clan grounds."

That is what is really behind "federalism."

That is why there is none of even the historical Marehan "community" of Dhuusamareeb or Gelinsoor in those places regardless of how small or large it may or may not have been.

That is why there is none of the historical Cayr community in Balanbale or Dudub regardless of the same

That is why there is no Marehan community in Cadaado, in Guriceel,, etc and no Hawiye community in Caabudwaaq or Dhabad.

That is why even, opposite to Darod displacement from Mogadishu in 1991, most recently you saw Hawiye displacement from Kaxandhaale or Dacdheer, etc.

It is unfortunate but there is a very clearly observable trajectory that Somalis have been on a seriously exclusionary, even segregationist course for more than a quarter century and like Mogadishu has shown with 5+ generations uprooted, this trajectory will not respect or stop for how long one has been a local.

This is clear and even just the fact Lababar and this land is now once again subject of discussion when it never has been before (including by me---as I recall even with the gentleman who started this topic I used to implicate the reality for me then of "I moved on to Jubba") is because my community has now implicated a different reality of "I will have the Jubba---and "all' of my history land here, as well."

The fact there is even this implication already forecloses the number of options this issue will possibly conclude in.

Regardless of bet, it is more likely the conclusion will reflect the trajectory in full swing (of clan exclusionary, segregation) than the inverse.

The truth is brother that nobody seeks Marehan land whether it is in the South or North. Haq is the truth. I am not one who takes pride in lying about once right this is forbidden haram hence you will find me truthful. All the territories that are darods are their territories whether in Ethiopia or elsehwere.

As for Jubboyinka I think there will be a just demarcation at some point. Because it is key that Somalis lands should be demarcated and besides the land is plenty. Look how huge somalia is.. There shouldn't be any issues in that in my honest opinion.

Why would nin Hawiye or whomever it is of Somali oo Muslim-ah seek duul that belongs to other Somali or Muslim-ah whether it is darod or others that is not gobanimo

[Gubbet]

The truth is brother that nobody seeks Marehan land whether it is in the South or North. Haq is the truth. I am not one who takes pride in lying about once right this is forbidden in our religion hence you will find me truthful.

Haqq is Truth, indeed, but since you know no truth in this subject, you are bereft of Haqq.

I will let the Hawiye/HG/Saleebaan in this video of profound of thankfulness and grace,--- towards the Marehan who time and again have given them "humanitarian" oriented access to their grazing and water resources (most strategically dependable in the entire wider region of Mudugh as the video says)---speak to you directly responding to "nobody wants your land."

This video will explain why the "entire" Habar Gidir clan is at Marehan doorsteps;



Starting 0:39: We know folks have come to Marehan from as far as Galdogob & Layl Kase, from Ceelcad (the wells of Galaadi implying Majeerteen and Reer Bicidyahan), Bandiiradleey and Gaalkacyo (Sacad & Omar Mohamud/Rer Khalaf), Iidoole and the center (HG from Baxdo area central Mudug), and ll of Dir from deep corners.

Followes by the clearly Saleebaan elder expressing profound humility and gratefulness calling his people "The Pilgrims" honored by the "brotherhood and mercy" displayed by Marehan.

Somalis are nomads my friend. They are not implicated in Congolese jungles and farming.

Even the Hiiraan Samaale clans are overhwelmingly pastoral practicioners of animal husbandry.

If Jubba and Shabelle its dust colored water is the Gold of farming territory in Somalia---

---Marehan territory and its rich green foliage is the Emerald of grazing territory in the same land.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

The truth is brother that nobody seeks Marehan land whether it is in the South or North. Haq is the truth. I am not one who takes pride in lying about once right this is forbidden in our religion hence you will find me truthful.

Haqq is Truth, indeed, but since you know no truth in this subject, you are bereft of Haqq.

I will let the Hawiye/HG/Saleebaan in this video of profound of thankfulness and grace,--- towards the Marehan who time and again have given them "humanitarian" oriented access to their grazing and water resources (most strategically dependable in the entire wider region of Mudugh as the video says)---speak to you directly responding to "nobody wants your land."

This video will explain why the "entire" Habar Gidir clan is at Marehan doorsteps;

HG don't seek lands in these areas and what is HG going to do with more lands then they can occupy? HG has plenty of lands but what they seek is more stragetic areas and it definitely is not Balanbale or Cabuudwaaq but rather in Afgooyi, Marka, Mogadishu and farm lands.

The video is must likely about two pastoral families out in the jungles. But as for Habar Gidir itself forget some pointless pastorals who crossed each others paths this is normal occurance and doesn't occidence with the HG grand politics because if you wanna know about HG politics then you must look towards the inland of Galagaduud and Mudug cities and there non-pastoral communities where HG civilization dwells in such as cities in like Gelinsoor, Gaalkacyo, Dhusameerab, Guriceel, Hobyo etc etc..

You must understand that there is nothing to desire in these border cities like Caabuudwaaq or Balanbale much less the pastoral villages behind it inside Ethiopia there is no value and mostly deslolate areas. Maybe find a well of oil the size of Aramco then the story might be different but aside from jokes and on a serious note just nah..

Besides the inland on the somali section of Hiiraan is not pastoral communities but rather a civilization..

Beledweyne 1,245,000
Buloburde 495,000
Jalalaqsi 340,000
matabaan 250,000
moqokori 120,000
Mahas 130,000

Even places like Moqokori and Mahas are civilization areas. But whatever is in Ethiopia are pastorals and there are still pastoral communities living in remote villages but thats about it but 90+% is civilization where majority of the pastorals live in the Ethiopia section and smaller ones spread inside Hiiraan.

It is like claiming Hawaadle from Hiiraan wants to spread into Bay and Bakool lands or Marehan from Gedo wants lands in Bay? Which is illogical