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Re: Drone footage captures yesterday's fighting!

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Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:52 am I have a drone. :| It cost about 4 Benjamins

I have also helped build one from scratch back in 2017 with a cousin who is an electrical engineer.

There seems to be an almost childlike or even 3rs world like fascination by some of the Muuse supporters regarding basic technology @ in this age. Case in point Yuusud cosplaying neckbeards from 4chan with the old Anglo-Saxon medieval imagery. :|

Muuse has lost every battle in this war and is on track to bring war to the "wells of Burco" at this rate. I have said this here first btw. Bookmarked :|
Spare us your life story, I wonder if there are any elite marehan soldiers in those fleeing cowards? You told us 500 of them were sent over to fight the big bad iidoor
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The new pro somaliland dhulbahante warlords are bold and ambitious.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:31 am Wait until your supplies start trickling and you actually even start to run out of shells before next batch.

You don't seem to understand at all the dynamics of this war.

You are running AGAINST time, they are running FOLLOWING time.

Say there is wind...

You are pushing a door that opens in towards you with wind pushing against you

They are pushing a door that opens out with the wind pushing the door with them






This conflict has been a godsend to Somaliland. More has been achieved during that short time than last 30 years. Somaliland is finally playing chess not checkers. The CBB groupies underestimated the sleeping Isaaq foot soldiers overseas. Who were caught of guard at the start of the conflict. But once that Somaliland rally started in London all the Somalilanders started to fight back. Muse played his hand like a true pro, while the other side kept boasting with pictures of this minor majerteen tribe with four technicals heading for battle. Muse stayed under the radar and played his opponents never ceding ground but looking like the victim. To the international eye its looked like an army was defending the city from assortment of militias with no uniform or command structure. While he gaslighted alshabab it was hard for any western country to risk giving support to those defending the city, just incase Muse was right. This was not something worth risking a western politicians career over.

Gubbet, Kiss the ring.

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Re: Drone footage captures yesterday's fighting!

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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:22 am
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:31 am Wait until your supplies start trickling and you actually even start to run out of shells before next batch.

You don't seem to understand at all the dynamics of this war.

You are running AGAINST time, they are running FOLLOWING time.

Say there is wind...

You are pushing a door that opens in towards you with wind pushing against you

They are pushing a door that opens out with the wind pushing the door with them






This conflict has been a godsend to Somaliland. More has been achieved during that short time than last 30 years. Somaliland is finally playing chess not checkers. The CBB groupies underestimated the sleeping Isaaq foot soldiers overseas. Who were caught of guard at the start of the conflict. But once that Somaliland rally started in London all the Somalilanders started to fight back. Muse played his hand like a true pro, while the other side kept boasting with pictures of this minor majerteen tribe with four technicals heading for battle. Muse stayed under the radar and played his opponents never ceding ground but looking like the victim. To the international eye its looked like an army was defending the city from assortment of militias with no uniform or command structure. While he gaslighted alshabab it was hard for any western country to risk giving support to those defending the city, just incase Muse was right. This was not something worth risking a western politicians career over.

Gubbet, Kiss the ring.

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This is too comical for any response or feeling other than boredom.

So you do not think I am offensively arrogant, seriously Sky, I don't know who wrote that letter, but it does not even hint what the individual who sourced it attributes to it.

It is like a letter saying about a violent, crime wracked neighborhood in which gangsters are being fought by local community members for control over their streets "The issue in Neighborhood X is out of hand, the issue is a symptom of the local community unhappiness with lawlessness and crime by gangsters, and the lack of a clear policy addressing rampant insecurity. A long-term law enforcement solution is required."

Understand "WHO" has been identified as the"aggrieved party."

Aggrieved party = local community

Aggrieved party is the "protagonist."


Here, let's recall what protagonist is vs antagonist

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One way to confirm who the protagonist is in that quoted piece is the identification of "conflict rooted in unaddressed grievance from local community."

The local community= SSC

We know their uprising starting with protesting started with everything.

We also understand through the declaration statement by the 33 Elders that they are not just protesting"how" they are administered but by "whom* they are administered essentially repudiating "Somaliland" itself.

The person who quoted that piece almost tragically thinks this is advocating for Somaliland when really what the letter is saying is "Somaliland" must be once and for all repudiated and a definite plan adopted against the status quo so as to make it absolutely clear it does not exist and cannot burden local communites as a compulsion.

Rhe letter is saying if Somaliland was allowed to fester (local hoodlums allowed to do small scale activities without burden to larger community), it now calls for a plan about how to deal with them (because they are now a burden and security risk).

This is tragic @ the individual quoting it without any understanding about what he is quoting.

It is like the neighborhood gangster then waving around the district letter identifying him as a problem and instead thinking it promises him upcoming "license" to do what he wants to the local community identified AS the protagonist.

It is tragic like many things about this war from Muuae supporters.

This whole thing resembles a cult gone wrong. :|
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Re: Drone footage captures yesterday's fighting!

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This psycho babble above is your way of deflecting attention from the actual message. Writing essays of meaningless nonsense in a forum just to avoid the truth.

Voltage you can write the Oxford dictionary if you wish. But facts are facts.

Muse has won this conflict by a mile. His still in las anod, the same place he was at the start of this conflict. On the other side they have bought together more and more militias to apply pressure so that they can dislodge the Somaliland army.
The civilian population has been be displaced. They are all in refugee camps. The militias have had a disproportionately higher deaths than the Somaliland army. These are all facts.


Now the international community is saying the root course of the conflict is not Muse.

The most important line in that article is; “long term solution has to be identified to settle the status of Somaliland” game over mofoker. The conflict has gone from you trying to taking Somaliland to the international criminal court to the international community admitting and accepting Somaliland can not be ignored anymore. The international community believes to end this conflict means resolving Somaliland status. Not a word about Somalilands conduct or being held responsible.
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There is only one thing that no one can refuse . REFERENDUM . We should keep the war until we are reaching our ultimate goal. The more disaster the better. We have been the nice guys of the horn for 30 years, and no one respects nice guys. The only way we can secure somaliland future is through violence , the More we become aggressive and brutal , the more we will be taken very seriously.
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This is q diplomatic internal letter. It is purposely designed to speak through salient point. I am telling you the direction the letter is reading has only been identified by coded identification of the protagonist and that's Rer Laascaanood. Take it to a barrister to read it for you.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:20 am This is q diplomatic internal letter. It is purposely designed to speak through salient point. I am telling you the direction the letter is reading has only been identified by coded identification of the protagonist and that's Rer Laascaanood. Take it to a barrister to read it for you.
Listen lying might be part of your lifestyle but we can all read english sxb. I think you are reading this letter like its java coding so that you can get some hope out of it. But it's in black and white.

1/ They admit that 100's have been killed and 1000 displaced. By whom? certainly not Muse

2/ they urge that parties reinstate the ceasefire and enter negotiations So two equal forces are fighting. No Mention of Somaliland being held responsible.

3/ This conflict is a symptom of the grievances felt by certain communities [This could mean the Dhulbahnte with Somaliland or Somaliland with Somalia] and lack of political settlement on its status. Thats check mate. In another word we need to find a solution to Somaliland's status to resolve this conflict.

Unless you mean witch doctor Voltage to change the contents of the letter you'd be wasting your time with a lawyer.
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Fake Fake video :lost:
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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:54 am
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:20 am This is q diplomatic internal letter. It is purposely designed to speak through salient point. I am telling you the direction the letter is reading has only been identified by coded identification of the protagonist and that's Rer Laascaanood. Take it to a barrister to read it for you.
Listen lying might be part of your lifestyle but we can all read english sxb. I think you are reading this letter like its java coding so that you can get some hope out of it. But it's in black and white.

1/ They admit that 100's have been killed and 1000 displaced. By whom? certainly not Muse

2/ they urge that parties reinstate the ceasefire and enter negotiations So two equal forces are fighting. No Mention of Somaliland being held responsible.

3/ This conflict is a symptom of the grievances felt by certain communities [This could mean the Dhulbahnte with Somaliland or Somaliland with Somalia] and lack of political settlement on its status. Thats check mate. In another word we need to find a solution to Somaliland's status to resolve this conflict.

Unless you mean witch doctor Voltage to change the contents of the letter you'd be wasting your time with a lawyer.
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Fake Fake video
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gobdoon wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:13 pm Fake Fake video
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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:54 am
Gubbet wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:20 am This is q diplomatic internal letter. It is purposely designed to speak through salient point. I am telling you the direction the letter is reading has only been identified by coded identification of the protagonist and that's Rer Laascaanood. Take it to a barrister to read it for you.
Listen lying might be part of your lifestyle but we can all read english sxb. I think you are reading this letter like its java coding so that you can get some hope out of it. But it's in black and white.

1/ They admit that 100's have been killed and 1000 displaced. By whom? certainly not Muse

2/ they urge that parties reinstate the ceasefire and enter negotiations So two equal forces are fighting. No Mention of Somaliland being held responsible.

3/ This conflict is a symptom of the grievances felt by certain communities [This could mean the Dhulbahnte with Somaliland or Somaliland with Somalia] and lack of political settlement on its status. Thats check mate. In another word we need to find a solution to Somaliland's status to resolve this conflict.

Unless you mean witch doctor Voltage to change the contents of the letter you'd be wasting your time with a lawyer.
That's the problem Skywalker, the letter is not from a "vacuum" where the words written are qualitatively important on their own.

The letter is with "context."

The point about Salient Point is finding both ends of a tunnel to peer at the center.

One end is the contents of the letter. The other end is the context in the real world

For example, the grievance felt by certain communities---you are supposed to look at the "ongoing conflict" and utilize the context surrounding what is the "grievance."

Essentially 1.) Somaliland existed since 1991 and 2.) Somaliland is not fighting Somalia or has implicated conflict through a grievance resulting from compulsion from Somalia regarding forced reunification.

Rather 1.) The context establishes "this" conflict was started by SSC, or in other words "Harti" which includes Dhulbahante & Warsangeli and has successfully pulled their cause "Fiqi Shinni"-----"this" conflict was started by "those" communities, in particular the "Dhulbahante & Fiqi Shinni' declaration of intent

And 2.) Their declaration of intent did not protest "how" they were ruled but by "whom" wanted to rule them. They are not compelling Hargeisa or asking Somaliland not to exist; they have a grievance about being forcefully and tyrannically made to go along with Hargeisa's political desires contrary to their self-determination, freedom, liberty, and aspirations.

This conflict was started by the grievance of a certain side and your force and compulsion is what they have a grievance toward which caused them to "physically pick up arms to birth a conflict."

So no, the Salient Point does not implicate Somaliland grievance with Somalia. That is not being adjudicated at all by the context.

That is how you are not supposed to read a letter of this kind.

The letter is not a static letter; it is a living document.

Here is an example of a salient point;

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The only importance to that page is if you are going to sign a contract, make sure all the t's are crossed and all the i's dotted.

And how does the wall of text address that in salient point?

"Every comma."
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Isaaq grievances against the faqash communities is the root cause of this problem. There is clear evidence showing Daaroods gathering every where to invade isaaq especially habarjeclo. And somaliland forces are actually habarjeclo , we occupy goojacade not to force our rule over the locals but to prevent Their militias to attack our towns. In other words this war is the continuation of 1988 war. Faqash are trying to destroy somaliland .
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Read my thread that was moved to Clan section
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