You need to understand the meaning of "facts" and "evidence." You do not seem to understand what those important standards mean at an 'elementary' level.GameChanger wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:54 am This is basically asinine especially the Shabaab angle which is not factual. Haji Ingriis is reading reports based on no facts! Lets say Actor 1 ships in arms hence how can you know where these weapons will end up inside somalia? This guess work is not healthy we somalis need to go by facts and stay away from this
Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Shabab
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
You are just throwing around vitriol stuff nothing more. Listen allegations are basic allegations and nothing more meaning when you don't know the end station of something you assume that thing having probability of ending there but without facts. It is like claiming I know exactly where a shark is swimming in the ocean it is vagueGubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:58 amYou need to understand the meaning of "facts" and "evidence." You do not seem to understand what those important standards mean at an 'elementary' level.GameChanger wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:54 am This is basically asinine especially the Shabaab angle which is not factual. Haji Ingriis is reading reports based on no facts! Lets say Actor 1 ships in arms hence how can you know where these weapons will end up inside somalia? This guess work is not healthy we somalis need to go by facts and stay away from this
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
Kees, what you just said means nothing to me---at all and God is my witness. In general, nothing you can say back implicates me in my correct and even just criticism of your 'behavior.' In fact not only is my person irrelevant to the criticism of your 'behavior," but so is Wargallo and Docol or even you being from there. I don't even have the faintest of negative opinion or sentiment regarding the those places. Your 'behavior' is implicated in the criticism and you know it deserved it.Kees70 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:58 amAll you wrote/said here, were said by your 2 Uncles Afweyne Siade and that handicap Farmaajo, and yet both were chased away from Mogadishu by those from "Wargallo and Docol"Gubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:43 amKees70 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:10 am
You insult Hawiyes yet you live in their deegaan ungratefully like those homeless dirty waqooyi bums.
I'm sure someone as you who hate anything Hawiye would prefer living with the Daroods you love so much, perhaps Garowe or Gedo would suit you better than Mogadishu you are currently staying.
You are from Wargallo and Docol, forgoodnessake quit your xenophobic yapping. You are not Benadiri with natural indigenous claims to Mogadishu and nor are you even Abgaal or Mudulood who singularly monopolize Benadir governorship on account of imposing a right by compulsion to political preeminence. The man is a Somali and Mogadishu is the seat of government. If you have more rights to it than him, you have no less arms and tools of compulsion than Abgaal and so would have imposed a claim in the 15 years of Somalia government existing since 2006 with straight 15 years of Mudulood Governorships. Your imposition is factually, materially, AND consequentially without basis not to mention reprehensible ethically and morally. If you want to exhibit xenophobia against someone, do it in Wargallo and Docol were he to visit you there.![]()
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
This source is as unrelieable as they come and rejectable
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..and you don't know what 'allegation' means.GameChanger wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:03 amYou are just throwing around vitriol stuff nothing more. Listen allegations are basic allegations and nothing more meaning when you don't know the end station of something you assume that thing having probability of ending there but without facts. It is like claiming I know exactly where a shark is swimming in the ocean it is vagueGubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:58 amYou need to understand the meaning of "facts" and "evidence." You do not seem to understand what those important standards mean at an 'elementary' level.GameChanger wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:54 am This is basically asinine especially the Shabaab angle which is not factual. Haji Ingriis is reading reports based on no facts! Lets say Actor 1 ships in arms hence how can you know where these weapons will end up inside somalia? This guess work is not healthy we somalis need to go by facts and stay away from this
To cut this short, Mr. Ingiriis gave a reference ('source/citation ') regarding the statement he made concerning Saadaq John and Djibouti Port. Hint: He mentioned a 'Swiss' research organization that documents illicit arms trafficking around the world.
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I was referring to that swiss source it is bollocksGubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:11 am..and you don't know what 'allegation' means.GameChanger wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:03 amYou are just throwing around vitriol stuff nothing more. Listen allegations are basic allegations and nothing more meaning when you don't know the end station of something you assume that thing having probability of ending there but without facts. It is like claiming I know exactly where a shark is swimming in the ocean it is vagueGubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:58 am
You need to understand the meaning of "facts" and "evidence." You do not seem to understand what those important standards mean at an 'elementary' level.
To cut this short, Mr. Ingiriis gave a reference ('source/citation ') regarding the statement he made concerning Saadaq John and Djibouti Port. Hint: He mentioned a 'Swiss' research organization that documents illicit arms trafficking around the world.
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
CBB are chasing after the saadaq John guy , who is married to geelle's daughter, saadaq John contributed the fall of their daddy farmaajo. They don't care where somaliland gets it's weapons they are more concerned to incriminate saadaq John These CBB peaple are very interesting .LeJusticier wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:22 amSince SL was born we have witnessed IMG unwavering support to Mogadishu. I don't understand where this conspiracy theory IMG and Handraab came from.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:28 am Did you watch the video ? The professor didn't say that the weapons is smuggled by land and and he didn't even mention somaliland. Why are you twisting his words.
This whole conspiracy theory that Djibouti is supporting somaliland is none sense. Even if it does , so what ? What are you trying to achieve here, Muse biixi is a Djiboutian himself so I won't be surprised if he gets weapons from ismaaciil , at the end of the day they are in laws and from the same tribe. The minister of defence of somaliland and the president of Djibouti are cousins as well.
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Waan gartay.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:56 amCBB are chasing after the saadaq John guy , who is married to geelle's daughter, saadaq John contributed the fall of their daddy farmaajo. They don't care where somaliland gets it's weapons they are more concerned to incriminate saadaq John These CBB peaple are very interesting .LeJusticier wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:22 amSince SL was born we have witnessed IMG unwavering support to Mogadishu. I don't understand where this conspiracy theory IMG and Handraab came from.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:28 am Did you watch the video ? The professor didn't say that the weapons is smuggled by land and and he didn't even mention somaliland. Why are you twisting his words.
This whole conspiracy theory that Djibouti is supporting somaliland is none sense. Even if it does , so what ? What are you trying to achieve here, Muse biixi is a Djiboutian himself so I won't be surprised if he gets weapons from ismaaciil , at the end of the day they are in laws and from the same tribe. The minister of defence of somaliland and the president of Djibouti are cousins as well.
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
True and predictable you can even see that al-Shabaab has been name dropped in there for good measures. It was amaturish move on their part and shows signs of weakness and desparations They are desparate but they have automatically made Sadaaq John gain more now because weak attempts like this only empower him further amongst the ruling party.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:56 amCBB are chasing after the saadaq John guy , who is married to geelle's daughter, saadaq John contributed the fall of their daddy farmaajo. They don't care where somaliland gets it's weapons they are more concerned to incriminate saadaq John These CBB peaple are very interesting .LeJusticier wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:22 amSince SL was born we have witnessed IMG unwavering support to Mogadishu. I don't understand where this conspiracy theory IMG and Handraab came from.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:28 am Did you watch the video ? The professor didn't say that the weapons is smuggled by land and and he didn't even mention somaliland. Why are you twisting his words.
This whole conspiracy theory that Djibouti is supporting somaliland is none sense. Even if it does , so what ? What are you trying to achieve here, Muse biixi is a Djiboutian himself so I won't be surprised if he gets weapons from ismaaciil , at the end of the day they are in laws and from the same tribe. The minister of defence of somaliland and the president of Djibouti are cousins as well.
I was reading the other day that many of them have resigned from CBB it is basically dying a slow death
Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
Nobody cares about Saadaq John. The only people in this entire world Saadaq John should be most concerned with are not even his just his own Hawiye, but his own Habar Gidir. Did you see Abdirahman Abdishakuur @ his wedding? Saadaq John is held responsible for 6 Cayr lives. He has more reason to be concerned with Cayr than CBB or anyone else.
The interest in this subject is Geelle's SON-IN-LAW is trafficking arms into Somalia with the arms even sold to Shabaab. Geelle's son-in-law means GEELL HIMSELF is implicated since Djibouti is a dictatorship. And Geelle has been the subject of rumors for a while now implicating him in the arms Miuse Biixi has used in serious HUMAN RIGHTS CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS.
The interest in this subject is Geelle's SON-IN-LAW is trafficking arms into Somalia with the arms even sold to Shabaab. Geelle's son-in-law means GEELL HIMSELF is implicated since Djibouti is a dictatorship. And Geelle has been the subject of rumors for a while now implicating him in the arms Miuse Biixi has used in serious HUMAN RIGHTS CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS.
- Las Anod warcrimes violations -> Muuse Biixi -> Geelle -> Djibouti conduit < Geelle <- Saadaq John <- Al Shabaab terrorism violations
- Las Anod warcrimes violations -> Geelle -> Djibouti conduit < Geelle <- Al Shabaab terrorism violations
- Las Anod warcrimes violations -> Djibouti conduit <- Al Shabaab terrorism violations
- Las Anod warcrimes violations ==
Al Shabaab terrorism violations
- Las Anod warcrimes violations ==
- Las Anod warcrimes violations -> Djibouti conduit <- Al Shabaab terrorism violations
- Las Anod warcrimes violations -> Geelle -> Djibouti conduit < Geelle <- Al Shabaab terrorism violations
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:28 am Did you watch the video ? The professor didn't say that the weapons is smuggled by land and and he didn't even mention somaliland. Why are you twisting his words.
This whole conspiracy theory that Djibouti is supporting somaliland is none sense. Even if it does , so what ? What are you trying to achieve here, Muse biixi is a Djiboutian himself so I won't be surprised if he gets weapons from ismaaciil , at the end of the day they are in laws and from the same tribe. The minister of defence of somaliland and the president of Djibouti are cousins as well.
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
30+ years of no Kacaan, no Siad Barre. No MX, no Darood. What’s your excuse now? All I see is Xamar taking all the developmental aid and money under the name of the capital and the rest of the country to fend for themselves. You had a chance with the Manifesto group with reconciliation. But you fucked that up as well. But you fucked that up as well. Foreign troops roaming the country, economic warfare and political warfare on periphery from the centre. Federal states realizing it was a mistake to elect HSM now. The greatest thing was for Farmaajo to lose. Somalis and allied non Somalis can see for themselves now.Kees70 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:58 amAll you wrote/said here, were said by your 2 Uncles Afweyne Siade and that handicap Farmaajo, and yet both were chased away from Mogadishu by those from "Wargallo and Docol"Gubbet wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:43 amKees70 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:10 am
You insult Hawiyes yet you live in their deegaan ungratefully like those homeless dirty waqooyi bums.
I'm sure someone as you who hate anything Hawiye would prefer living with the Daroods you love so much, perhaps Garowe or Gedo would suit you better than Mogadishu you are currently staying.
You are from Wargallo and Docol, forgoodnessake quit your xenophobic yapping. You are not Benadiri with natural indigenous claims to Mogadishu and nor are you even Abgaal or Mudulood who singularly monopolize Benadir governorship on account of imposing a right by compulsion to political preeminence. The man is a Somali and Mogadishu is the seat of government. If you have more rights to it than him, you have no less arms and tools of compulsion than Abgaal and so would have imposed a claim in the 15 years of Somalia government existing since 2006 with straight 15 years of Mudulood Governorships. Your imposition is factually, materially, AND consequentially without basis not to mention reprehensible ethically and morally. If you want to exhibit xenophobia against someone, do it in Wargallo and Docol were he to visit you there.![]()
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
Of course, I thought this was common knowledge? It is Saadaq Joon and Biixi and Khadro Xaydh which import weapons to AS. They are war profiteers.
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Re: Prof Ingiriis bombshell: Sadaq John trafficking arms through Djibouti port to Somalia by land; confirmed sales to Sh
They're all sock puppets......there is a hidden hand behind the curtain.
Great powers are invested in keeping Somalia a failed state.
With our fabulous resources and innovative population.....Somalia at peace would soon dominate the Horn of Africa.
The Dhulbahnte struggle is the first true expression of Somali nationalism in over 30 years......thats why we have almost unanimous support from Somalis everywhere.
This is seen as a threat to the status quo and must be crushed
Great powers are invested in keeping Somalia a failed state.
With our fabulous resources and innovative population.....Somalia at peace would soon dominate the Horn of Africa.
The Dhulbahnte struggle is the first true expression of Somali nationalism in over 30 years......thats why we have almost unanimous support from Somalis everywhere.
This is seen as a threat to the status quo and must be crushed
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