The Greatests Somali That Ever Lived.....

[Samatr]

[quote="The Arabman"]"Poetry is a Somali pastime, you wouldn't understand since it's a Somali thing."

Well, as you have stated it, it's for "pastime", therefore it doesn't make a poet one of the greatest that benefit his/her society.[/quote]

Poetry has benefitted our society, it has literary benefits. Poetry has played a large part in our society, thus making Hadraawi a great Somali.
You need to read the link and maybe you will understand you know nothing about hadraawi. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3084329.stm

Ina Xasan is responsible for more Somali deaths than British deaths, do you appreciate that? or is that fine because he did it under an Islamic banner.

[dhuusa_deer]

samatr,

do you have a link to Hadrawi's poems?

[The Arabman]

"Ina Xasan is responsible for more Somali deaths than British deaths..."

Source (a link or two)?

[Dhaga Bacayl]

Somalidu isku wada hero maahee maxaad iska xiijinysaan.

BTW, why do Somalis claim Axmed Gurey as one of their own? He was Aromo dude form Saylac…

[Samatr]

[quote="The Arabman"]"Ina Xasan is responsible for more Somali deaths than British deaths..."

Source (a link or two)?[/quote]


"Given the frequency and virulence of the Ethiopian raids, it was natural that the first pan-Somali or Greater Somalia effort against colonial occupation, and for unification of all areas populated by Somalis into one country, should have been directed at Ethiopians rather than at the Europeans; the effort was spearheaded by the Somali dervish resistance movement. The dervishes followed Mahammad Abdille Hasan of the puritanical Salihiyah tariqa (religious order or brotherhood). His ability as an orator and a poet (much-valued skills in Somali society) won him many disciples, especially among his own Dulbahante and Ogaden clans (both of the Daarood clan-family). The British dismissed Hasan as a religious fanatic, calling him the "Mad Mullah." They underestimated his following, however, because from 1899 to 1920, the dervishes conducted a war of resistance against the Ethiopians and British, a struggle that devastated the Somali Peninsula and resulted in the death of an estimated one-third of northern Somalia's population and the near destruction of its economy. One of the longest and bloodiest conflicts in the annals of sub-Saharan resistance to alien encroachment, the dervish uprising was not quelled until 1920 with the death of Hasan, who became a hero of Somali nationalism. Deploying a Royal Air Force squadron recently returned from action in combat in World War I, the British delivered the decisive blow with a devastating aerial bombardment of the dervish capital at Taleex in northern Somalia."

http://somalinet.com/library/somalia/?so=0020
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It says about one third of Northern Somalis died during his campaign, I doubt he killed that many British.

[QansaGabeyle]

loool@ Aunt Dalays, you can't be ok basra.

[kambuli]

Somalis are so into qabyaalad, that most of them can't call a hero some one outside their clan. That is sad walaahi.

My Dad told me one time, that the only two times he had tears in his eyes where;

1. When Jamal Abdi Nasir died.
2. When Gen. Daud died.

Neither one of them was his tribe.

Even though someone does not hail from your religion(tribe) we should be brave enough to write the names of Somali heros.

[The Arabman]

http://somalinet.com/library/somalia/?so=0020

That's a biased source. If you're going to backup a claim, you would want to use a non-biased source.

[Dhaga Bacayl]

Kambuli,

Are you saying he didn't cry when Siyad Barre died?

[The Arabman]

"BTW, why do Somalis claim Axmed Gurey as one of their own? He was Aromo dude form Saylac?"

Well, according to Wikipedia, he "was a Somali Imam and General."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Gragn

[kambuli]

Dhaga quote "Kambuli, Are you saying he didn't cry when Siyad Barre died?

No he did not cry.

But I have to say this. Unless Somalia gets better than it was in Siyad Barre's reign. Siyad Barre will always be a hero. As Abshir Bacadle said in his poem " Duqii doona ducana ugu dara".

[Rampage]

[quote="The Arabman"]"BTW, why do Somalis claim Axmed Gurey as one of their own? He was Aromo dude form Saylac?"

Well, according to Wikipedia, he "was a Somali Imam and General."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Gragn[/quote]

How can a SomaliNet be biasd while wiki is staying neutral when ANYBODY can just pop in and write whatever they want?

I wonder.

[Skippa]

[quote="kambuli"]
But I have to say this. Unless Somalia gets better than it was in Siyad Barre's reign. Siyad Barre will always be a hero. As Abshir Bacadle said in his poem " Duqii doona ducana ugu dara". [/quote]

how a murderous bloodthirsty powerhungry dictator can be qualified as a hero is beyond me talking about M. S. Barre, may God forgive the man's sins but he was anything but a hero, and I am not saying this because of my tribal affiliation. The fact that Somalia is in a bigger mess than during his tenure doesn't excuse nor does it absolve him of his crimes.

[Dhaga Bacayl]

[quote="kambuli"]Dhaga quote "Kambuli, Are you saying he didn't cry when Siyad Barre died?

No he did not cry.

But I have to say this. Unless Somalia gets better than it was in Siyad Barre's reign. Siyad Barre will always be a hero. As Abshir Bacadle said in his poem " Duqii doona ducana ugu dara". [/quote]


I guess it all depends what KIND of Somali you're talking to.

I was just kidding about the Siyad Barre thing....

BTW, who the hell is Abshir Bacadle?

[The Arabman]

"How can a SomaliNet be biasd while wiki is staying neutral when ANYBODY can just pop in and write whatever they want?

I wonder."

Well, because Somalinet could be the owner of a particular group, thus making him/her biased. Wikipedia is neutral because when an article is in dispute, it states so clearly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_dispute