Islamic Republic of Somalia: Feasible?

[The Arabman]

"Somalidu ma aha qoowm asxaan yaqaano so waa in lagu qasbo waxkasta."

Dadku wey isbedelaan. Waxay muuqataa in dadweynaha Soomaalidu badankoodu isu bedeleen dadweyne diinta gacanta ku haya.

[michael_ital]

Somali's actually allowing themselves to be governed in strict accordance of Sharica Law ? No.

[Freakishly_Free]

^^They are doing in Mogadishu now. Wait, u are not even Somali. What makes you think u know them?


I think hell has a better chance of freezing over-assuming i believed in hell.

[fagash_killer]

its possible and thats the only option remember that oure fore fathers like axmed gurey sayid fought for oure diin and thats was also 1 of those main reasons we were united cuss islam comes above qabiliism but that all changed though when siyaad barre attacked those islamist but hey its not 2 late

[biko]

there is no such thing as, Islamic Utopia.

[Aiman]

It is possible insha-Allah soon it will become like Islamic Republic of Iran controlled by the hardliners conservative.

[The Arabman]

"there is no such thing as, Islamic Utopia."

Definition of Utopia:

1.
a. An ideally perfect place, especially in its social, political, and moral aspects.
b. A work of fiction describing a utopia.

2. An impractical, idealistic scheme for social and political reform.

Islam teaches there's no "perfect place" on earth; earth isn't paradise. This life is about tests of tribulations, adversities, afflictions, distresses, sufferings, misfortunes, and even periods of solace, consolation, bliss, prosperity, vivacity and gladness. Those who pass the tests proceed to the real "perfect place."

Someone who claims there could/couldn't be an "Islamic Utopia" in this life is someone who got a confusion. "Islamic Utopia" isn't Islamic Law (Sharia).

[highclass]

[quote="Freakishly_Free"]^^They are doing in Mogadishu now. Wait, u are not even Somali. What makes you think u know them?[/quote]


Good point


If it can happen in Xamar, It can happen all over somalia.

[Demure]

Theoretically it's feasible, however, is it going to be a genuine Islamic state? doubt it. The Somali identity claim to be muslims and yet they have one bigger love (Clan) which makes them behave in every unIslamic manner. It's clear the average Somali confuses cultural traditions with inherited religious beliefs, and to some, to the extend of one big happy clannish blur. The reason I'm very much guarded of these wadaads intent.

Somalia's options so far; Corrupt state, statless, and Islam (or really Clan) which is it going to be for the next 15 some years? what would you pick? do you even care?

Maxaa ladhahay these days Xamar Cimaamad aa laga waaye, not one, All Sold out! Again the mass tendencies, a good sign or....?

PS. I voted No.

[The Arabman]

"however, is it going to be a genuine Islamic state?"

Elaborate what you mean by "a genuine Islamic state" and cite an example of such state.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Somalia's best case scenerio, and what we all should be hoping for, is a parliamentary democracy that respects the role of Islam in its society and laws - like it had in the 1960s prior to Siad Barre. That worked. And it could work again.

[biko]

[quote="Demure"]Theoretically it's feasible, however, is it going to be a genuine Islamic state? doubt it. The Somali identity claim to be muslims and yet they have one bigger love (Clan) which makes them behave in every unIslamic manner. It's clear the average Somali confuses cultural traditions with inherited religious beliefs, and to some, to the extend of one big happy clannish blur. The reason I'm very much guarded of these wadaads intent..[/quote]
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there is no such thing as a geniun islamic state. not today anyway. and if you go back to the sahaba era, then it cannot be emulated in todays globalized God-forsaken grey earth.


any muslim nation that picks islamic sharia over other laws, should decide how they will go about achieving their islamic state in accordance to the need of its people. since this is a first in somalia, it will take time but as long as every tribe concerned is working for their common benefit and recognizes that no one will get things as they would like it, so compromise will be the order of the day. paying lip service to the greatness of Islamic sharia is easier than actualy starting the Islamic wheel rolling. its not going to happen at once nor will it come down like a big curtain, so all wadaados who are at the forefront of this skinni islamic revolution need to take heed in order not to trip-up; if that happens, we will all come down like a pack of cards.


but persoinaly i think, choosing the sharia as a form of governence is a big step in-itself. probably more so than the actual implementation of the sharia.

[The Arabman]

"...if you go back to the sahaba era, then it cannot be emulated in todays globalized God-forsaken grey earth."

A flawed statement. Every era is unique with its challenges, impediments and obstacles. The Sahaba were who they were and where they were because they followed Sharia. They advanced because of Sharia, and we can advance should we follow Sharia. Sharia wasn't only compatible with the era of the Sahaba; it's compatible with every era till end of life on earth.

"since this is a first in somalia"

Incorrect. At the very least, Ahmad Gurey and Sayid Muhammad Abdullah Hassan didn't rule Somalia with democracy or other human systems.

[biko]

[quote="The Arabman"]"...if you go back to the sahaba era, then it cannot be emulated in todays globalized God-forsaken grey earth."

A flawed statement. Every era is unique with its challenges, impediments and obstacles. The Sahaba were who they were and where they were because they followed Sharia. They advanced because of Sharia, and we can advance should we follow Sharia. Sharia wasn't only compatible with the era of the Sahaba; it's compatible with every era till end of life on earth.[/quote]
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am well aware that islam is compatible with every era, but the botom line is, how to make it best work for the somalis taking into acount their recent turbulent past ? and without outside influence in a time where the muslim ummah is under great scrutany.

but also the other important thing is the attitude and conduct of those who advocate for islamic way of life. those like you, and couple of other brothers in this site that talk the islamic talk, but sometime slip-up like you did when you made that unnecesary comment about somaliland and its protitution and alcohol problem, when they are clearly not the issue at the momment. brothers who think they can hide their qabilist and hateful nature by hiding behind islam.

[The Arabman]

"like you did when you made that unnecesary comment about somaliland and its protitution and alcohol problem"

That wasn't "unnecesary comment." Fact of matter is, the breakaway Waqooyi region is ruled by secular warlords with a very secular system. Since most of the brothers and sisters of that region are conservatives, it was fitting for me to highlight what the secular warlords of that region are doing to tempt the conservative brothers and sisters.