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highclass, don't believe in Iljeex's media hype. Gheedi said of them fake elders that they aint elected elders but self-appointed confused oldies. Ethiopian officials who met those elders were trying to listen what these stupid Iljeexs were saying.

hc

you're EXACLY right. and for further elucidation, Demure's thread is required reading:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97536

Highclass has a point,

The TFG is nonexistant because the Ethios negotiate with clans not them

[quote="Ismahan445"]

Ok, There is and never was such a thing as a Somali gov't. Take a deep breath, I know its hard to grasp that fact. The TFG=Ethiopia, it was alway in that equation and will alway be as long as they are in Somali. So the fact the Ethiopia holds talks with the clan elders or if its Casho Yusuf or Fanaxle doing the meetings, makes no difference at all.

PS I made that comment before about the crack because it took you this long to get the concept of who runs what in Somali.[/quote]

If you think that this is something I realized tonight its up to you....Im pretty sure u have seen my posts before.

And yes it makes a difference whether Ethiopia or TFG deal with the people as long as there are people who support TFG It is a issue to discussed.

Even the Americans deal with clan elders, insurgents and even Muqtada Sadr(reportedly) in Iraq...and not just secretly...big deal..

That doesnt mean they dont recognize the Iraqi government and Al Maliki.

^^ it also doesn't show a great faith in the Tranny Female Girlymen, either

It doent matter...its all about politics..one would rather make deals and reconcile with opponents than go on killing sprees where civilians lives could be in jeaopordy.

Highclass,

Are you really Harti? I guess your connection with Somaliland is apparent now. Dhulbantes are known for their high IQ like Mjs and you here asking some simple question?. Listen brother, The reason Ethiopia having talks with these Hawiyes is just pure political game. Think about it How many talk broke down? The Tigre want to pretend that they are ready for talks only to break down the talks with PMs and Hoobiyal. Think about, We are using Hawiye like toys. We are hiring one Hutus to destory rest of other Hawiyes.And Also let Ethiopia do their dity work, they lull them into false security and suddenly shell them non stop. Think about it saaxiib...

HC

I'm sorry i will admit i'm quite ignorant about your post, so accept my apologize if I was mistaken about you dear. Anywayz, the sitution in somalia today, its a political mess at its best. When you have a entire nation's book being written by the ethiopians, how can your refuse that they are the same as the gov't and casho Yusuf is a mere employee for Ethiopia. what makes him different then any Ethiopian offical and plz don't tell its becasue C/Yusuf is MJ and from Mudug.

MJP

Stop the BS...the TFG is not for you or fon any particular qabil and there is no such thing as Hawiye being anti TFG...just few elements mainly from the Hawiye clan but also Darod elemnts who are rogue..

Dont degrade the name of the TFG...the last thing they need is some confused MJ kid who thinks that he owns the government saying such rubbish.

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Highclass,

Are you really Harti? I guess your connection with Somaliland is apparent now. Dhulbantes are known for their high IQ like Mjs and you here asking some simple question?. Listen brother, The reason Ethiopia having talks with these Hawiyes is just pure political game. Think about it How many talk broke down? The Tigre want to pretend that they are ready for talks only to break down the talks with PMs and Hoobiyal. Think about, We are using Hawiye like toys. We are hiring one Hutus to destory rest of other Hawiyes.And Also let Ethiopia do their dity work, they lull them into false security and suddenly shell them non stop. Think about it saaxiib...[/quote]


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Horta If Proff Ali Khaliif Galaydh (Ethiopia and A.Yusuf Biggest Enemy) Becomes the next president of Somalia. Will you guys still be talking about Harti-nimo?


Ethiopia is using you not the other way around !!!! TFG will not gain anything

The blood of a hawiye to me is equal to the blood of my brother or any other somali

Only folks like HighClass will be spared in the war taken to Punaniland.

AW xaal bixi, the Darwiish do not get spared they spare!

[quote="highclass"][quote="MJ-Pride"]Highclass[/quote]
Horta If Proff Ali Khaliif Galaydh (Ethiopia and A.Yusuf Biggest Enemy) Becomes the next president of Somalia. Will you guys still be talking about Harti-nimo?


Ethiopia is using you not the other way around !!!! TFG will not gain anything

The blood of a hawiye to me is equal to the blood of my brother or any other somali[/quote]

Horta do we have any dhulbahante people in these forums? we need somebody to verify High class tribe. I smell Sheegato. You stupid how dare you say Harti and Hawiye blood is the same if you claim to be Harti. Don't currupt the noble Dhulbahante name you stupid. I know countless Dhulbahante people and they all Pro-Gov. Only the minor laf of Bakar are lil bit anti TFG and they are minority...

[quote="DawladSade"]AW xaal bixi, the Darwiish do not get spared they spare![/quote]

LoL Tell him, We don't have much but we take your weapons and karbash you with it, Like we did to the British....You know we still do that.