Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them abd

[Itrah]

White Americans have some sort of phobia for anything remotely black in order to keep their gene pool free from African ancestry.. Hence, why their definition of black is much wider than that of the rest of the world.

[Sophisticate]

Mali I think that's what I was getting at.

[MaliPrince]

Okay so you agree with me that Somalis are of a different race than the Bantus, especially when viewed within East Africa. Fine, I agree with you and it is 100% true.

no I don't. I believe Somalis and Bantus are the same race. Just like somalis, chinese, caadaan, etc. are also the same race. We are just the HUMAN RACE. PERIOD. every other division we make is based on social constructs and based on where you live, you get different results. thus in in East Africa, Somalis and Bantus are viewed as different races, while in America, Somalis and Bantus are viewed as the same race.

But you're talking about America here. The same country which confuses Sikhs with Muslims. There have been stories of Punjabi Sikhs being KILLED because they're confused with being Arab Muslims. Even though the Sikhs were neither Arab nor Muslim, they were still targeted. Does that mean they're the same as the Arabs? Its a bullshit argument. I Dont care what a White Redneck Cop thinks of me. He might incorrectly view me as "Black"....but that doesn't affect how I view myself as a Somali. And I advise ALL my Somali brothers to avoid partaking in Madow culture or associating themselves with these morally corrupt people. It will only bring crime and degeneracy within our lives. We Dont need to get involved with Madow thugs, who get involved in robberies ane homicides at a MUCH HIGHER RATE when compared to other racial groups. We are Somalis. We are not them. We are better than that.

I will concur with your call that our brothers and sisters avoid associating with destructive parts of ANY CULTURE. unlike you, I don't just limit my anger to the urban gang culture of the American maadow, I am just as disturbed when I see Somali youth partake in carab style wahaabi terrorism. The only difference between me and you is that I don't limit my hatred to just madoowga.

Again with that 30,000 year old ancestor argument! I've already addressed this!

No you didn't. All you pointed out is that Somalis are more closesly related to their cushitic neighbours, the berbers, some semite and southern europeans than the Bantu. I added the Masai and Samburu (who also share close genetic ancestry with us but you seem to have avoided) and said you were correct. HOWEVER, what you did not address is the fact we are more closely related to the Bantu than with the Northern Europeans, Asians, Indians, and Arabs. Like the wikipedia page pointed out, E1b1b (the somali y-DNA) and E1b1a (the bantu y-DNA) come from E-P2 (which existed 30,000 years ago). The E-P2 split happened after the ancestors of Europeans, Asians, and Arabs left Africa. THUS, we are more closesly related to the Bantu than we are to most Europeans, Asians, and Arabs.

you never dealt with that point.

[MaliPrince]

Somalis are bullied by cadans because they are black but when somalis say they are black the african americans tell them they are not black but somalian pirates so somalis are confused and suffer from identity crises. That is why most adopt the black culture to fit in it.

Nah, I think it is because of brain washing by African Americans and their propaganda.

In Europe, the Somalis usually do not associate with any of the other blacks, except for some of the Muslim ones and the habash.

Not true. Somalis in Europe class them selves as Somalis. Not Habashi, not black and not african. We may be black by colour but we are completly different people. And somalis get more respect than other black people. We all know Somalis are at the bottom of the food chain, but somalis get more respect than normal black, even though somalis hardly contribute to society. But then again somalis are stubben, and very difficult to control.

so you are fine with being near the bottom of the totem pole, just as long as its not the very bottom. somaalida waa daad aaad uuu liita

[MaliPrince]

White Americans have some sort of phobia for anything remotely black in order to keep their gene pool free from African ancestry.. Hence, why their definition of black is much wider than that of the rest of the world.

and you have a phobia against jareerta, hence the lengths you go to distinguish yourself. the only difference between you and white americans is they start by looking at similarities while you are looking at the differences. in the end neither of you is right in an absolute sense.

I just wish ya'll would accept that. Rather than believing your world view is the only one that is true.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

JareerPrince. I'm still waiting a reply from you in the other thread.

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[BeyondQabil]

look walaal. you might be right about Somalis in Africa. I don't live there. but I'm right about Somalis in America. so what does that tell you? It tells me RACE is not real. its not some blood test. Its based on the society you live in. You are right that Somalis in Kenya for example are looked at as a different race than the Bantu. However, that doesn't make it UNIVERSAL. that was my only point. In America and Canada (places I've lived), we are most definitely looked at and treated by whites as no different than African-Americans and Jamicians. particularly when it comes to the police.

and you are wrong about Somalis having "no relation" to the Bantus. we both share a common ancestor 30,000 years ago. you can dismiss that all you want but the reality is they are closer to us GENETICALLY than the Europeans, Asians, and Arabs. Like you estutely pointed out, the only non-cushitic groups more closesly related to us than the bantu GENETICALLY are the berbers, some southern europeans, and some nilotic speakers (like the Masai and Samburu).

so what does this all mean? to me NOTHING. just like the Andamense look black and have asian genetics. some europeans look black but share african genetics. or some africans look black but share europeans genetics. if anything it shows that genetics has little to do with what most people regard as race.

Even in Kenya Somali is not a Race. Somali is a TRIBE. The ONLY time i hear of the Somali race, is when I come to Snet. Somali is no different from Borana, Rendille, Oromo

[Saxony]

American Somalis are so retarded.

It's always them that advocate for black unity and other ridiculous notions. You never find such attitudes among European Somalis for whatever reason. Even though Europe is much whiter than America.

That is because in UK and CAnada the blacks have a nationality they identify themselves as before black like carribean, Nigerian etc. even though they consider themselves black a Jamaican sees himself different from a Nigerian , they realize they have different culture and even suddenly look different, therefore Somalis also will connect with there nationality more In This black environment compared To AA who's nationality is Black and nothing else and project that out. The only reason ppl even call themselves black is because of AAs.

[KnowThySelf23]

Idk why this conversation is even still going on.....we all know that mailman is delusional and hates blacks....he obviously believes the bullshit he was taught....he probably comes from a generation of somalis with hatred in their hearts who have a superiority complex and see themselves as better then their african brothers...he'd rather be related to those north africans (which he views as superior) then he wants to be related to west africans and bantus....he thinks that all somalis are from africa or the arab countries (even though they know they are "black" as well) but most people ( on this site) are from the west. you have a negative view of blacks in general (akin to the bulshit you were fed by white people). he is a hopeless case....and so is that itrah person.....Abdi J is right....the only people arguing that they are superior to other black nations are these "muslims" they are talking shit about african americans (who have a number of muslims), about west africans (who have a large number of muslims). these people are hateful and hopeless. they're is no point in arguing with them because they have a obvious hatred for anything black (akin to their white washing, also makes sense that most of he hail from europe as they worship white people)


they are nut jobs that can't understand simple words....strength in numbers is key and when your already a minority...only idiots like somalis would want to separate those minorities even furthur...smh

[jalaaludin5]

What is so ofensive about stating simple facts that somalis are different thsn bantus?

Why is differences created by God is hard for people to understand?

We different.

I cannot understand this attitude that somalis have subscribe BLACK POWER attitude through kunta kinte perspective.

American Somalis loves to see themselves as african American which just doesnt stick.

They say BLACK POWER....and black is nothing more than just a lousy color...otherwise God would have never said LET THERE BE LIGHT
Black is a term that doesnt do justice to ones true essence.

We say...SOOMALI BAAN AHAY
Which speaks volume and straight away shows that...I and I is from the horn...I and I have a language...I and I have a religion...I and I have a culture...also I and I have our own olympic sport which is called QABYAALAD

[KnowThySelf23]

What is so ofensive about stating simple facts that somalis are different thsn bantus?

Why is differences created by God is hard for people to understand?

We different.

I cannot understand this attitude that somalis have subscribe BLACK POWER attitude through kunta kinte perspective.

American Somalis loves to see themselves as african American which just doesnt stick.

They say BLACK POWER....and black is nothing more than just a lousy color...otherwise God would have never said LET THERE BE LIGHT
Black is a term that doesnt do justice to ones true essence.

We say...SOOMALI BAAN AHAY
Which speaks volume and straight away shows that...I and I is from the horn...I and I have a language...I and I have a religion...I and I have a culture...also I and I have our own olympic sport which is called QABYAALAD

see that where you got it wrong....we don't fit into african americans because they were here before us....every immigrant african who comes after that has to fit into their rule of thought....if you african our automatically black......their is no such thing as black since at the end of the day its just a color. black = anything close to what AA of today look like...if your even a smidge close to them you get pushed in with that group.

nobody is talking about bantus since chances are the AA is not even bantu bad rather other west african tribes...

"god" created differences....sure....but he didn't create them for you to hate them.....he created them for you to love one another...celebrate your cultures....and be ONE people...especially if their MUSLIM.....idk what religion you follow but it doesn't teach you to hate other races and think you superior to them.

Black power doesn't exist.....which is sad...becouse i guarantee you if blacks worked together instead of hating each other our countries would prosper rather then everyone trying to fuck each other up.

i agree "black" belittles our african heritage but it also gives africans one name to see each other as ONE people....which is better when you live in a foreign country....look at the president of the us for example...that nigga is KENYAN...hes not even AA...yet they put him in office because blacks worked as unit to support one cause.....

[jalaaludin5]

Please tell me you don't believe that American has finally reached racial equality and blacks are welcomed to sit at the head of the table which is why a kenyan boy is the leader of the free world?
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On something totally unrelated...

how long since aad ooda jabsatay (since you became a feistiest lol)?

[KnowThySelf23]

Please tell me you don't believe that American has finally reached racial equality and blacks are welcomed to sit at the head of the table which is why a kenyan boy is the leader of the free world?
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On something totally unrelated...

how long since aad ooda jabsatay (since you became a feistiest lol)?

no....when did i say that?


and idk what that means? wth is a feistiest

[jalaaludin5]

Atheist.

[KnowThySelf23]

Atheist.