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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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KnowThySelf23 wrote:Idk why this conversation is even still going on.....we all know that mailman is delusional and hates blacks....he obviously believes the bullshit he was taught....he probably comes from a generation of somalis with hatred in their hearts who have a superiority complex and see themselves as better then their african brothers...he'd rather be related to those north africans (which he views as superior) then he wants to be related to west africans and bantus....he thinks that all somalis are from africa or the arab countries (even though they know they are "black" as well) but most people ( on this site) are from the west. you have a negative view of blacks in general (akin to the bulshit you were fed by white people). he is a hopeless case....and so is that itrah person.....Abdi J is right....the only people arguing that they are superior to other black nations are these "muslims" they are talking shit about african americans (who have a number of muslims), about west africans (who have a large number of muslims). these people are hateful and hopeless. they're is no point in arguing with them because they have a obvious hatred for anything black (akin to their white washing, also makes sense that most of he hail from europe as they worship white people)


they are nut jobs that can't understand simple words....strength in numbers is key and when your already a minority...only idiots like somalis would want to separate those minorities even furthur...smh
I do not hate Madows for who they are. I hate their destructive and degenerate culture. That's what I hate. I have nothing but love for a Black Senegalese Muslim, or a Nigerian Muslim. He's my brother in Islam and I harbor no ill-feelings towards him whatsoever. What I DO hate however, is this hip-hop "gangsta" culture which exists in the West amongst African-American youth....and now we have young Somali men imitating this lifestyle and getting themselves killed because of it. We have Somali boys in prison, dropping out, selling drugs, and doing other destructive things while associating themselves with a "Negro Culture" which has nothing to do with them.

It unnerves me when I see a Somali boy who comes from an Islamic, 2-parent household behaving like this. This Somali boy is smart enough to achieve anything, and he came to North America as a refugee. It's his DUTY to be the best he can be, and to help create a class of Somali Professionals that can compete with the Indians, Jews, and Koreans. If you visit Canada or America, you'll see a Chinese guy who can barely speak English, and this nigga is driving a Mercedes Benz and has a nice house out in the suburbs, and he's PROSPERING. His kids attend the best schools, and they stay away from crime....

SOMALIS on the other hand, are so fixated on being "Black" that when they turn on the TV they see music videos of Adones like Chris Brown disrespecting women (He even made a song called: "These Hoe's Ain't Loyal")....you have Adones like 50 Cent and Lil Wayne glorifying gang culture and drug-intake.....and these Somali boys are so fixated on these degenerate people that they start to imitate them. And this is what has destroyed us as a people in North America. We need to see ourselves as who we are: Somalis. We are a proud and noble race of people and we need to stop associating with people who have nothing to do with us, ie. African-Americans.

Second of all, we Somalis are not the same as the Bantus, and there's nothing hateful about saying that. You're the one who sounds silly here, by telling me stories of "Black" people living in Southeast Asia or off the Coast of India. Just because they have dark-skin doesn't mean shit. Race is more than just skin color, it's also shared genetics, shared history and shared heritage. If race=skin-color, then you could successfully argue that a pale Japanese is the same as a pale Dutchman. But you NEVER make that claim. "Black" Unity sounds just as stupid as "Pale" Unity, as there is nothing at all that unites the dark-skin people of the world other than melanin. And that's a pretty weak reason to create a basis of unity.

The real question is: Why are you so insistent on being considered "Black".....why are you so infatuated with considering yourself as the same as a Bantu or African-American? What's the deal?
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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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MaliPrince, I'll grant you that Somalis are slightly more closely related to Bantus than we are to some Mongolian or Cherokee, but that doesn't mean shit.

And don't come to me with that garbage, "There is one race, it's called the human race" balaayo. I don't wanna hear that. There are very real, significant differences which separate Somalis from Madows, yet you refuse to see this. And you keep talking about "30,000 years ago" without realizing how long ago that was looool. That was WAYYY before the last Ice Age, yet you wanna come to me with that 30,000 years ago nonsense. That was even before the existence of White and Asian people as a distinct group. Yeah, it was THAT long ago.
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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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TheMailMan wrote:
The real question is: Why are you so insistent on being considered "Black".....why are you so infatuated with considering yourself as the same as a Bantu or African-American? What's the deal?
You're actually the one who's fixated with trying not to be black. You went so far ahead to claim that being black is a creation of of whites, and insisted that you are a Cushite - a classification made by whites. That's why folks are calling you out for your hypocrisy.

How many Somalis in Somalia consider themselves Cushites?

Is your classification as a Cushite scientific or is a social construct?

What about classifying a person as a Bantu?
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:
jalaaludin5 wrote:What is so ofensive about stating simple facts that somalis are different thsn bantus?

Why is differences created by God is hard for people to understand?

We different.

I cannot understand this attitude that somalis have subscribe BLACK POWER attitude through kunta kinte perspective.

American Somalis loves to see themselves as african American which just doesnt stick.

They say BLACK POWER....and black is nothing more than just a lousy color...otherwise God would have never said LET THERE BE LIGHT :lol:
Black is a term that doesnt do justice to ones true essence.

We say...SOOMALI BAAN AHAY
Which speaks volume and straight away shows that...I and I is from the horn...I and I have a language...I and I have a religion...I and I have a culture...also I and I have our own olympic sport which is called QABYAALAD 8-)
see that where you got it wrong....we don't fit into african americans because they were here before us....every immigrant african who comes after that has to fit into their rule of thought....if you african our automatically black......their is no such thing as black since at the end of the day its just a color. black = anything close to what AA of today look like...if your even a smidge close to them you get pushed in with that group.

nobody is talking about bantus since chances are the AA is not even bantu bad rather other west african tribes...

"god" created differences....sure....but he didn't create them for you to hate them.....he created them for you to love one another...celebrate your cultures....and be ONE people...especially if their MUSLIM.....idk what religion you follow but it doesn't teach you to hate other races and think you superior to them.

Black power doesn't exist.....which is sad...becouse i guarantee you if blacks worked together instead of hating each other our countries would prosper rather then everyone trying to fuck each other up.

i agree "black" belittles our african heritage but it also gives africans one name to see each other as ONE people....which is better when you live in a foreign country....look at the president of the us for example...that nigga is KENYAN...hes not even AA...yet they put him in office because blacks worked as unit to support one cause.....
I wonder even why KnowThySelf identifies herself with AMERICAN Jareers. She lives in Canada, a country which is populated mainly by "Blacks" from Jamaica, and West Africa. The "Blacks" in Canada voluntarily migrated to that country relatively recently, and Canada has a very different history when it comes to race-relations and racial definitions than the United States. So why does she do it? These people south-of-the-border don't even share a passport with her, let alone a race, ethnicity, language, history, or heritage.

Yet she identifies with them. What the hell is going on here. Where's this identity crisis coming from? Second of all, me correctly stating that I'm not Black doesn't mean I hate them.

Stop with this bullshit victimhood mentality. I'm not a Mongolian either, and if anyone ever tried claiming that I was one, I would definitely correct them. Punjabi people are not Arabs. Australoid people are not Bantu-African. Italian people are not Jews, etc.

Stop trying to erase the differences between us, and in so doing you're erasing our heritage. Stop allowing these African-American Professors to misappropriate our unique identity and group us in with these people. Stop going by the White Man's definition of "Black" and see yourself as a Somali instead. You're not one of them. You never were.
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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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BeyondQabil wrote:
TheMailMan wrote:
The real question is: Why are you so insistent on being considered "Black".....why are you so infatuated with considering yourself as the same as a Bantu or African-American? What's the deal?
You're actually the one who's fixated with trying not to be black. You went so far ahead to claim that being black is a creation of of whites, and insisted that you are a Cushite - a classification made by whites. That's why folks are calling you out for your hypocrisy.

How many Somalis in Somalia consider themselves Cushites?

Is your classification as a Cushite scientific or is a social construct?

What about classifying a person as a Bantu?
It's scientific you dumbass. Look at the previous pages on this thread and it talks about how "Bantu" and "Cushitic" are language groups based on people with a shared racial identity.

"Black" is a social construct. Under the term "Black", even Australian Aborigines would be considered "Black"....even though they're a completely different race of people and have NOTHING at all to do with West Africans, Bantus, or African-Americans. Yet you wanna define yourself based on social constructs created in 20th century America. You should be ashamed of yourself. Even our Somali ancestors saw themselves as a different race than the Bantus, and science proves them correct.

Go sit in a retard corner for 5 mins, you've said enough for today.
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Can't deny that fact. But we are also different just like all five digits are not the same yet connected to the same hand.

Just like a very dark skinned tamil is not considered as black, nor are somalis.
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I do not hate Madows for who they are. I hate their destructive and degenerate culture. That's what I hate. I have nothing but love for a Black Senegalese Muslim, or a Nigerian Muslim. He's my brother in Islam and I harbor no ill-feelings towards him whatsoever. What I DO hate however, is this hip-hop "gangsta" culture which exists in the West amongst African-American youth....and now we have young Somali men imitating this lifestyle and getting themselves killed because of it. We have Somali boys in prison, dropping out, selling drugs, and doing other destructive things while associating themselves with a "Negro Culture" which has nothing to do with them.
Your generalizing AAs and their culture...somalis don't know what its like to come from slaves and to be born with nothing...we had religion and a great nation to remind us that we come from greatness. them on the other hand had nothing and came from slaves...they created they're own culture and had every part in what america is now as the white people did. we don't know what its like to grow up poor (until now because we destroyed our own country) so you cannot understand why or what would lead them to commit crimes...regardless...the ones who do such acts are a small minority..theyre are so many black americans who are extremely successful and hard working. if you turned off Fox news you'd know that.


It unnerves me when I see a Somali boy who comes from an Islamic, 2-parent household behaving like this. This Somali boy is smart enough to achieve anything, and he came to North America as a refugee. It's his DUTY to be the best he can be, and to help create a class of Somali Professionals that can compete with the Indians, Jews, and Koreans. If you visit Canada or America, you'll see a Chinese guy who can barely speak English, and this nigga is driving a Mercedes Benz and has a nice house out in the suburbs, and he's PROSPERING. His kids attend the best schools, and they stay away from crime....
that pisses me off too....but again that is akin to the environment...most of the time those somali boys grew up to single mothers or poor households...but just like you don't generalize somali people by the actions of those boys your talking about, you shouldnt generalize AAs
SOMALIS on the other hand, are so fixated on being "Black" that when they turn on the TV they see music videos of Adones like Chris Brown disrespecting women (He even made a song called: "These Hoe's Ain't Loyal")....you have Adones like 50 Cent and Lil Wayne glorifying gang culture and drug-intake.....and these Somali boys are so fixated on these degenerate people that they start to imitate them. And this is what has destroyed us as a people in North America. We need to see ourselves as who we are: Somalis. We are a proud and noble race of people and we need to stop associating with people who have nothing to do with us, ie. African-Americans.
thats where you got it wrong....nobody WANTS to be black....nobody WANTS to be a victim of hate crimes...were automatically lumped in with them and have to do our best to represent not only somalis, muslims, black people, but africans as a whole. end of the day we don't belong here..somalia is our home....but since it was destroyed we have to live by their rules in THIIER COUNTRY. and again that whole gang culture isn't black culture..its just things a certain group likes to listen to...or relates to...not that i necessarily agree with it.


Second of all, we Somalis are not the same as the Bantus, and there's nothing hateful about saying that. You're the one who sounds silly here, by telling me stories of "Black" people living in Southeast Asia or off the Coast of India. Just because they have dark-skin doesn't mean shit. Race is more than just skin color, it's also shared genetics, shared history and shared heritage. If race=skin-color, then you could successfully argue that a pale Japanese is the same as a pale Dutchman. But you NEVER make that claim. "Black" Unity sounds just as stupid as "Pale" Unity, as there is nothing at all that unites the dark-skin people of the world other than melanin. And that's a pretty weak reason to create a basis of unity.


i didn't talk about the other blacks in asia and india..other people on here did. but were talking about america here and the western world....the dutch and japanese don't LOOK the same nor are they in the continent....why would you even associate them? that doesn't even make sense.... :roll: ...plus the japanese are not pale...they are yellowish skinned or sometimes even rather dark and almost arabid in skin town (brown)
The real question is: Why are you so insistent on being considered "Black".....why are you so infatuated with considering yourself as the same as a Bantu or African-American? What's the deal?
i didn't choose to be considred black....when people talk in groups and they mention black people they put YOU in that group whether you like it or not. for instance go to any white, asian, arab etc. and ask them what you are....then come back and apologize to me lol


AND again....AAs are not bantu...i don't think you know what bantu even is...smh
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The point is they are jareer.

Bantu...AA....

semantics.
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TheMailMan wrote:
KnowThySelf23 wrote:
jalaaludin5 wrote:What is so ofensive about stating simple facts that somalis are different thsn bantus?

Why is differences created by God is hard for people to understand?

We different.

I cannot understand this attitude that somalis have subscribe BLACK POWER attitude through kunta kinte perspective.

American Somalis loves to see themselves as african American which just doesnt stick.

They say BLACK POWER....and black is nothing more than just a lousy color...otherwise God would have never said LET THERE BE LIGHT :lol:
Black is a term that doesnt do justice to ones true essence.

We say...SOOMALI BAAN AHAY
Which speaks volume and straight away shows that...I and I is from the horn...I and I have a language...I and I have a religion...I and I have a culture...also I and I have our own olympic sport which is called QABYAALAD 8-)
see that where you got it wrong....we don't fit into african americans because they were here before us....every immigrant african who comes after that has to fit into their rule of thought....if you african our automatically black......their is no such thing as black since at the end of the day its just a color. black = anything close to what AA of today look like...if your even a smidge close to them you get pushed in with that group.

nobody is talking about bantus since chances are the AA is not even bantu bad rather other west african tribes...

"god" created differences....sure....but he didn't create them for you to hate them.....he created them for you to love one another...celebrate your cultures....and be ONE people...especially if their MUSLIM.....idk what religion you follow but it doesn't teach you to hate other races and think you superior to them.

Black power doesn't exist.....which is sad...becouse i guarantee you if blacks worked together instead of hating each other our countries would prosper rather then everyone trying to fuck each other up.

i agree "black" belittles our african heritage but it also gives africans one name to see each other as ONE people....which is better when you live in a foreign country....look at the president of the us for example...that nigga is KENYAN...hes not even AA...yet they put him in office because blacks worked as unit to support one cause.....
I wonder even why KnowThySelf identifies herself with AMERICAN Jareers. She lives in Canada, a country which is populated mainly by "Blacks" from Jamaica, and West Africa. The "Blacks" in Canada voluntarily migrated to that country relatively recently, and Canada has a very different history when it comes to race-relations and racial definitions than the United States. So why does she do it? These people south-of-the-border don't even share a passport with her, let alone a race, ethnicity, language, history, or heritage.

Yet she identifies with them. What the hell is going on here. Where's this identity crisis coming from? Second of all, me correctly stating that I'm not Black doesn't mean I hate them.

Stop with this bullshit victimhood mentality. I'm not a Mongolian either, and if anyone ever tried claiming that I was one, I would definitely correct them. Punjabi people are not Arabs. Australoid people are not Bantu-African. Italian people are not Jews, etc.

Stop trying to erase the differences between us, and in so doing you're erasing our heritage. Stop allowing these African-American Professors to misappropriate our unique identity and group us in with these people. Stop going by the White Man's definition of "Black" and see yourself as a Somali instead. You're not one of them. You never were.
the guy you were talking about in the binging was american....the people you were arguing with were american....and the people your talking shit about are........american..

ps. in canada your considered black as well...everything i said still applies here.


again with the bantu not every wide nosed black person is bantu smh

im not erassing anything...im trying to wake you up...the world considers you black just like all euros are white and asians are yellow and indians and middle easterners are brown....
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jalaaludin5 wrote:The point is they are jareer.

Bantu...AA....

semantics.
smh....your ignorant...

if batnu = AA

and somali = a new breed? FOH

Your all black...wake up coons....
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Lets just end this conversation at a place I'm sure most of you arab and white gu.us riding coons will agree with.

in the WEST we have more in common with other AFRICANS then we do whites, arabs, asians, or what have you....thus why I'm not necessarily advocating for blackness but rather africaness...
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:Lets just end this conversation at a place I'm sure most of you arab and white gu.us riding coons will agree with.

in the WEST we have more in common with other AFRICANS then we do whites, arabs, asians, or what have you....thus why I'm not necessarily advocating for blackness but rather africaness...

Pan-Africanism is the way to go. :up:
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