Idaajaa got bitch slapped.

[Thuganomics]

History is shared, instead of fighting who came first and running around with fake pride, can we acknowledge all these men have contributed to the current written script. Obviously they had the same mission and goals, so celebrate all.

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[samatar133]

Ximan, I know logic has never been your strongest point. It doesn't matter who co-authored Muse Galaal with the publication of Hikmat Soomal in 1956 because it doesn't change the fact that he was the first Somali man to use Latin script in Somali writing.

Where in that report state that DH and X first appeared in Abdillahi Haji's version?

Read UNESCO report in page 3,4 and 5. Abdilahi Haji published "Afkayaga Hooyo" in 1960 using script number 5 in the report which contains DH and X. At the time Shire did not have any publication at all. The only other script that existed in 1960 was Galaal's 1956 but he was using "d"instead of Dh and "hh" instead of X. For that reason it is fair to say that bot current DH and X belong to Abdilahi Haji.

About the vowels, please go and read the bloody report. Muse Galaal had already invented the currently used short and long vowels in 1956. Just read the report carefully at page 5 and script 4.

I didn't listen to prof Martin's interview but I suspect that I will learn anything new that I didn't learn from the more reliable UNSCO report. If you thing there is anything new or interesting in that interview please quote.

[XimanJaale]

Ximan, I know logic has never been your strongest point. It doesn't matter who co-authored Muse Galaal with the publication of Hikmat Soomal in 1956 because it doesn't change the fact that he was the first Somali man to use Latin script in Somali writing.

He is not the first Somali man that has independently authored a book in Somali witing using latin alphabets. Also the same book you keep mentioning does not have the same Somali script we use today. Funny thing is how Muse Galaal favoured the Arabic alphabet than the latin alphabet. Go watch the video it explains it, Dr Martin has a copy of that book and talks about it.

Read UNESCO report in page 3,4 and 5. Abdilahi Haji published "Afkayaga Hooyo" in 1960 using script number 5 in the report which contains DH and X. At the time Shire did not have any publication at all. The only other script that existed in 1960 was Galaal's 1956 but he was using "d"instead of Dh and "hh" instead of X. For that reason it is fair to say that bot current DH and X belong to Abdilahi Haji.

No they don't. Shire Jama published his book in 1967 (with all the script we use today) and the UNESCO report was made in 1966. Nowhere does it state that Abdilahi Haji has used X in that report. Also Abdillahi Haji's book does not resemble anything to the script we use today.

Neither does Muse Galaal/Andrzejewski book of 1956 also represent the script we use today. The only book that is identical to the Somali script we use today is Shire Jama's book of 1967. Hence the script chosen belonged to him and the both UNESCO and the Somali government favoured his work. I find it funny how you are so brave to reject an important organisation's declaration.

About the vowels, please go and read the bloody report. Muse Galaal had already invented the currently used short and long vowels in 1956. Just read the report carefully at page 5 and script 4.

No he didn't, go buy that book. He doesn't use long vowels.

I didn't listen to prof Martin's interview but I suspect that I will learn anything new that I didn't learn from the more reliable UNSCO report. If you thing there is anything new or interesting in that interview please quote.

You should watch it cause clearly you have zero knowledge of this discussion.

[samatar133]

This guy Samatar is too dumb for God's sake. His strategy is to open water tubing in the bathroom so on becomes too drained to organize the bathroom.

is that all you have say? I guess you have practically given in this debate.

I showed that Muse Galaal was the first to introduce Latin in the Somali writing system in his publication of 1956. I also showed that Galaal's 1956 version is 93% identical to the version we currently use. I am still waiting any credible reputation of that . I then looked for any evidence that Shire had any script running before 1956 to consider the argument of Shire Jamac solely inventing the version we currently use. All I have found is that the first ever Shire publication appeared around 1961 if not 1965. Again I am waiting an evidence and logical argument to prove me wrong not giggling and useless phrases.

[XimanJaale]

This guy Samatar is too dumb for God's sake. His strategy is to open water tubing in the bathroom so on becomes too drained to organize the bathroom.

is that all you have say? I guess you have practically given in this debate.

I showed that Muse Galaal was the first to introduce Latin in the Somali writing system in his publication of 1956. I also showed that Galaal's 1956 version is 93% identical to the version we currently use. I am still waiting any credible reputation of that . I then looked for any evidence that Shire had any script running before 1956 to consider the argument of Shire Jamac solely inventing the version we currently use. All I have found is that the first ever Shire publication appeared around 1961 if not 1965. Again I am waiting an evidence and logical argument to prove me wrong not giggling and useless phrases.

You are a dumb retard, latin was used to write in Somali since late 1800's and early 1900's. Muse Galal was not the first person to introduce latin. Watch the video, the Professor talks in informative time piece history on how the Somali script has developed over a period of time.

And no the Book written by Muse Galaal and Andrzejewski in 1956 is not 93% identical to the Somali script we use today. I suggest you to buy the book and see for yourself!

You are being repetitive and going in circle with no solid sources and evidence. Nacas foqol nacas, war wuxu madax adka. He is even refusing to watch the informative video!! The professor has all books and sources infront of him and he explains them all clearly

[samatar133]

ximan Jaale, ninyaw waxaan u malaynayaa inaad rabtid uun inaad i daalisid oo kaliya sababtoo ah the book Shire published in 1967 didn't use anything new that wasn't used by Muuse Galaal in his Hikmat Somal in 1956 and Abdilahi Haji in his publication of Afkayaga Hoyo in 1960.

Habeen Wanaagsan

[XimanJaale]

ximan Jaale, ninyaw waxaan u malaynayaa inaad rabtid uun inaad i daalisid oo kaliya sababtoo ah the book Shire published in 1967 didn't use anything new that wasn't used by Muuse Galaal in his Hikmat Somal in 1956 and Abdilahi Haji in his publication of Afkayaga Hoyo in 1960.

Habeen Wanaagsan

Oh did you read those books yourself? You are one stubborn fucker. The proffesor I posted clearly discusses these books your talking about and has it infront of him. He clearly states that those books do not resemble the Shire Jama script. Oh and little correction Hikmat Somal was not written by Muse Galaal only, though it is a rubbish book that has no reflection of todays script done by Shire Jama.

The only person that is making others tired is you, with your constant pathetic counter-reply's that have no solid backing.

[The`Republic]

This guy Samatar can't even understand what the debate is.

Somali was being written in 1890 in Latin by a German as Professor Martin explains.

The question is SO?

So what if Galaal, Andrezejewski, and Lewis developed a Somali written book in latin in 1956?

You can take any language and phonetically sound it out and write it in Latin. You can write Arabic in latin.

Ismi The`Republic ana uhib luqa Soomaal

Etf etf etc

No one is taking about who wrote in Latin. We are talking about the actual script we used today which is standardized.

Whose was it?

The Professor Martin is clearly asked by the Somali reporter. .is Galaal's script developed what we use today?

He says no and goes to great lengths to show the difference.

Then he says the script belongs to Shire and proceeds to exlain why.

You just can't understand what the discussion is about.

[The`Republic]

I alwo find it highly ironic and the work of intelligent deficiency, you continue to use the same UNESCO report that recommends Shire (#7) even in the presence of Galaal (#4) and reach a different conclusion.

[XimanJaale]

The Republic,

Somalis are stubborn, they like to state what they like to hear. Even if they are wrong they still believe they are right. We have shown them numerous sources and they even use sources like UNESCO report to ridicule Shire Jama when that report itself recommends Shire's script.

[Thuganomics]

Voltage if you agree that Latin had already been used as a medium for the Somali Language.And as you clearly demonstrated Latin can be used to express any language be it Chinese or "Jabaniis" lol.We also can agree that the vast majority of the Latin alphabet does not change in their pronunciations.That is L,G,B,D,S etc etc when used in the Somali Language.And according to Samatar previous posts somebody had already come up with the idea of the long vowels (I haven't checked the link he posted as my device won't read PDF files but I assume it's legit). Another with using the X in place of the H another maybe with the of puting the K and H to make the KH sound etc etc.Doesn't that make it a concerted effort by all involved.Or did Shire come up with all this by himself without any input by anybody else.

[The`Republic]

Watch the Professor of linguistics at London University around the 12 min mark. He beautifully and clearly explains the differences.