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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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KnowThySelf23 wrote: ugh you made me read the whole thing and there is no mention of somalis anywhere...unless your trying to say we are the same as ethiopians smh

furthermore he only mentions Ethiopians as a whole and fails to understand that theres more the 1 ethiopian tribe


probably white propaganda bulshit
Just look at the chart, don't read the blog. It's very easy to understand.

As for the Ethiopian reference, they used a combo of Amharas and Oromos. So, fairly representative of most Ethiopians. Anyhow, Somalis get similar results as Ethiopians on most genetic tests.
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TheMailMan wrote:


I don't know. That's a tough one. I don't identify with either the Arab or the African. I definitely don't identify with the White or the Asian. If the "African" just so happened to be an Ethiopian or Eritrean, then I would pick him.
LOL smh....if your trolling...you need to write a book because your reaching pro status right now...

the question was african as a whole or other groups...pick your poison

that ^ is why i identfy as black...becouse in the western world Black = african...and if your not black, they you must fit into the other groups i listed above
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Re: Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them

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@KnowThySelf23,

Here's a scientific paper that used Kenyan Somalis in a global admixture analysis. Load the PDF:

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/supp ... 1552-2.pdf

They have about the same results as the Oromo.

Their genes turned out to be 60% Nilotic 40% Middle Eastern.
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How I know they are Kenyan:



http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/supp ... 1552-4.txt

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Ayodo_21S	F	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_23S	F	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_34S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_35S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_40S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_41S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_43S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_52S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_5S	F	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_61S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_69S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_81S	F	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
Ayodo_90S	M	Somali	Somali	Africa	Kenya	Garissa	5.6	48.3	1	1	George Ayodo
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itrah....let me explain something to you....the somalis you see now...are obviously mixed.. and they came from somewhere other than east africa, as somalia was inhabited by berbers before these somalis came along...chances are we come from a mixture of ethiopians and black arabs....nonetheless please don't associate us with kenyan bantus and f-king west africans....i mean i love them as my fellow africans but we don't share genetics...no fuck that... my hair is too soft dammit...and look at my nose....that aint bantu...or west african!!

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KnowThySelf23 wrote:itrah....let me explain something to you....the somalis you see now...are obviously mixed.. and they came from somewhere other than east africa, as somalia was inhabited by berbers before these somalis came along...chances are we come from a mixture of ethiopians and black arabs....nonetheless please don't associate us with kenyan bantus and f-king west africans....i mean i love them as my fellow africans but we don't share genetics...no fuck that... my hair is too soft dammit...and look at my nose....that aint bantu...or west african!!

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Totally 100% and completely right. You're correct about that last part, regarding the Bantus.

But, I don't agree that we are mixed. We are indigenous to the place we're in. We are Somalis. Somalis have inhabited this territory for millennia.
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Somalia was inhabited by Berbers before the Somali's came???? LOL that never happened I think you are confusing the current Berbers with the Barbara, also referred to as Bilad al-Barbar (Land of the Berbers), was an ancient region on the northern coast of the Somalia which was named that way by the Arabs and the land of the Bantu's was called Bilad Al Zanji. The North African Berbers never set foot on our soil in large groups, except for Ibn Battuta travels to Mogadishu and Saylac.
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Somaliwaste wrote:Somalia was inhabited by Berbers before the Somali's came???? LOL that never happened I think you are confusing the current Berbers with the Barbara, also referred to as Bilad al-Barbar (Land of the Berbers), was an ancient region on the northern coast of the Somalia which was named that way by the Arabs and the land of the Bantu's was called Bilad Al Zanji. The North African Berbers never set foot on our soil in large groups, except for Ibn Battuta travels to Mogadishu and Saylac.
LOOOL look it up...google is your friend...those imposters are every where....

ps. french montana is half somali half berbera morrocan :stylin: ...they fuckin each other too! smh
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:
Somaliwaste wrote:Somalia was inhabited by Berbers before the Somali's came???? LOL that never happened I think you are confusing the current Berbers with the Barbara, also referred to as Bilad al-Barbar (Land of the Berbers), was an ancient region on the northern coast of the Somalia which was named that way by the Arabs and the land of the Bantu's was called Bilad Al Zanji. The North African Berbers never set foot on our soil in large groups, except for Ibn Battuta travels to Mogadishu and Saylac.
LOOOL look it up...google is your friend...those imposters are every where....

ps. french montana is half somali half berbera morrocan :stylin: ...they fuckin each other too! smh
:eat: I fucks with you, but that shit has to be sarcastic or else you losing it lmao
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Somaliwaste wrote:
KnowThySelf23 wrote:
Somaliwaste wrote:Somalia was inhabited by Berbers before the Somali's came???? LOL that never happened I think you are confusing the current Berbers with the Barbara, also referred to as Bilad al-Barbar (Land of the Berbers), was an ancient region on the northern coast of the Somalia which was named that way by the Arabs and the land of the Bantu's was called Bilad Al Zanji. The North African Berbers never set foot on our soil in large groups, except for Ibn Battuta travels to Mogadishu and Saylac.
LOOOL look it up...google is your friend...those imposters are every where....

ps. french montana is half somali half berbera morrocan :stylin: ...they fuckin each other too! smh
:eat: I fucks with you, but that shit has to be sarcastic or else you losing it lmao
I'm being serious
his is from the The Cambridge History of Africa, Volum III from 1050 to 1600.:

"The Arab geographers generally
used terms such as Habasha for the people of the Ethiopian interior
regardless of whether they were Christian, Muslim or pagan; Berber
for the inhabitants of the Horn, whom they sometimes qualified as
'black Berbers', to distinguish them from the Berbers of the Maghrib;
and Zanj, for the various peoples of darker complexion whom they
located beyond the Habasha and the' black Berbers' ......
"In fact, there was a basic continuity
in the use of the term Berber since the first century of the Christian
era, to describe the land and the people of the Horn. The Periplus,
Claudius Ptolemy, and Cosmas Indicopleustes employed it in much the
same way as the Arab geographers did after the ninth century. There seems to be no doubt now that the Arab geographers had particularly
the Somali in mind when they spoke of the 'black Berbers' of the Horn;
and the earlier use of the term by Greek writers may very well indicate
a more ancient occupancy of the Horn by the same stock of people."

pg--134 to 136
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ps in no way am i claiming none black...i am still NE to the damn GRO...BLACK ....
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:
his is from the The Cambridge History of Africa, Volum III from 1050 to 1600.:

"The Arab geographers generally
used terms such as Habasha for the people of the Ethiopian interior
regardless of whether they were Christian, Muslim or pagan; Berber
for the inhabitants of the Horn, whom they sometimes qualified as
'black Berbers', to distinguish them from the Berbers of the Maghrib;
and Zanj, for the various peoples of darker complexion whom they
located beyond the Habasha and the' black Berbers' ......
"In fact, there was a basic continuity
in the use of the term Berber since the first century of the Christian
era, to describe the land and the people of the Horn. The Periplus,
Claudius Ptolemy, and Cosmas Indicopleustes employed it in much the
same way as the Arab geographers did after the ninth century. There seems to be no doubt now that the Arab geographers had particularly
the Somali in mind when they spoke of the 'black Berbers' of the Horn;

and the earlier use of the term by Greek writers may very well indicate
a more ancient occupancy of the Horn by the same stock of people."

pg--134 to 136¨¨
Can you not see that you are contradicting yourself, sigh?


This is what you wrote lol
KnowThySelf23 wrote: he somalis you see now...are obviously mixed.. and they came from somewhere other than east africa, as somalia was inhabited by berbers before these somalis came along
No intermixing, Somali's were always there.
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pps. Ibn battuta I believe referred to the people living in Mogadishu as "dark-skinned berbers"(the ancestors of modern somalis), and as he was a Moroccan berber himself, it's interesting that he would use this term to describe the people there.
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Cause maybe the people spoke a Afro-Asiatic language and have the same physical appearance as the people in the Maghrib, but in no way did the Berbers live here before the Somali's or else we would have small groups speaking the Berber language, but not even one can be traced or found. It was just a name Bilad al Barbar / Barbara. Even the Port in Somaliland is still called Berbera.
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KnowThySelf23 wrote:pps. Ibn battuta I believe referred to the people living in Mogadishu as "dark-skinned berbers"(the ancestors of modern somalis), and as he was a Moroccan berber himself, it's interesting that he would use this term to describe the people there.
And yet you have the nerve to trash me when I tell you that Somalis are actually related to Berbers genetically and anthropologically. SMH

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
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