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Raganimo wrote:

TheMightyNomad wrote:Awrastaale is a user here on Somalinet. He really is the biggest self loathing somali guy. He worshipps habeshas & ethiopia and think we are beneath them. He is a staunch SL nationalist and qabilist.

He is a known troll i had no idea he was on the ummah forum.

Wallahi this is beyond pathetic. By the way, a Somali brother reached out to me. Apparently that whole forum is a cesspit of degeneracy and self-hate. No wonder it attracts all the confused Somalis:

Walaal, your post in that topic is appreciated. I feel I must warn you about this forum and my experiences with it over the past several years. This forum is filled with ignoramuses, reverts, Salafis, neo-kharijites, and ISIS/Al-Shabab sympathizers. The only culture that is acceptable on here is Arab culture and the Arab way of life. All other Muslim ways of life are "bid'ah" and "backwards" and should forcibly be abandoned. I do not engage with these people anymore for it is hopeless and a large waste of time, but feel free to read my posts if you want to see what they are about. The Somalis here are continuously debased, humiliated, followers, and have psychological issues about their identity. This is one of the many reasons I left this site, and the issue has also been experienced by the Desi brothers as well. Entire communities are accused of shirk regularly and nothing is done about it. The moderator team largely consists of reverts who continuously put down the ignorance of non-Arab Muslim communities and they don't even try to hide their bias. They will accuse you of being a secularist, a murtad, a munafiq, a nationalist or a racist if you disagree with their extreme views especially when it comes to politics and culture.

If I were to advise you, I would suggest you only read a handful of threads by some of the few remaining good brothers that you may benefit from. Other than that, there is very little good that I see on this forum anymore.

Ummah forum is awful, people were praising Al-Kebab on a daily basis.

gegiroor wrote:Muslim revert men marrying Somali Muslim girls is fine with me as those are halal marriages, and since majority of the Muslim reverts are the best human beings that you can ever find once they converted to Islam and learned the deen.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you're naive sxb

Raganimo wrote:Those Somali Spot niggas, including the murtads, have all registered and are causing havoc on that forum lol.

Link please?

Futurist wrote:

gegiroor wrote:Muslim revert men marrying Somali Muslim girls is fine with me as those are halal marriages, and since majority of the Muslim reverts are the best human beings that you can ever find once they converted to Islam and learned the deen.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you're naive sxb

I ain't naive; I think you don't like the Muslim reverts for reasons that you're not telling us. Sheikh Yusuf Estes, Sheikh Siraj Wahhaj, and many other scholars are reverts. Of course, there are bad apples in any group.

That said, most of the Somalis who have issues with reverts are from UK. For some reason the Somali girls they, perhaps, were in love left them for Muslim reverts. But you're all forgetting that these are our fellow Muslims. Of course it is a different case if the Somali who has issues with Muslim reverts is not a Muslim himself.

All I can say is there are still plenty of Somali girls and it is not like there are no enough Somali girls for you, fellas. There are more Somali women in the diaspora than there are Somali men. So if one girl rejects you fellas, there are plenty more pious Muslim Somali girls.

^ Plus lineage is patriarchal in Somali society. Somalis discount half-breeds regardless of whether the father or the mother is Somali. Damn! I just realized we are natural racists. I have no dispute with that(Somali racism) either. After all, we wouldn't be Somalis if we were mixing bloods of others into our own. We survived for too long and were isolated community by choice. There is some exposure now to outsiders but nothing threatening to our identity yet. Maintaining the purity of the gene pool is important. So we don't become extinct as unique ethnic group in east Africa.

Sorry but most somali girls in the uk are khasaaro unfortunately, i myself do not plan to marry one unless she is that rare diamond. Preferably an arab, or a somali outside of the west.

WorstCaseScenaRio wrote:^ Plus lineage is patriarchal in Somali society. Somalis discount half-breeds regardless of whether the father or the mother is Somali. Damn! I just realized we are natural racists. I have no dispute with that(Somali racism) either. After all, we wouldn't be Somalis if we were mixing bloods of others into our own. We survived for too long and were isolated community by choice. There is some exposure now to outsiders but nothing threatening to our identity yet. Maintaining the purity of the gene pool is important. So we don't become extinct as unique ethnic group in east Africa.

Actually, to say we were a closed ethnic group and never intermarry with others is false. Somalis have always intermarried with other Muslim groups, including Yemenis, Omanis, Indians, Persians, Oramos, and Afars. Of course those marriages have been a small number, but whenever we came into contact with other Muslims, we've intermarried them.

It was non-Muslims that we didn't intermarry in the past, and if a Somali woman married a non-Muslim man, she used to get ex-communicated and no longer regarded as part of the family. When people say "gaal baa qaba" or "gaal bey guursatey", every Somali who hears that responds in shock.

That said, there are Somali men and women who are marrying gaalos. There are those who live or involve with gaalo in relationships that are outside of marriage, and I don't see anyone making threads about them. I do question the motive behind the issues raised about Muslim revert men who marry Somali Muslim women. Perhaps the agenda is something else but the reverts are just being scapegoated!

Let us not forget that these girls were either born or raised in the west. Their names are Somali, their parents are Somali, but everything else about them is western. And if the mosques they attend are dominated by non-Somali Muslims, they'll marry from those Muslims. Keep in mind the mosque is different than a church. In Christianity, one can't go to every church unless one is a remember there. There is a reason why black churches are segregated from white churches, and there are ethnic based churches. In Islam, the mosque is integrated, and Muslims don't have to belong to certain mosques based on their ethnicity. Therefore, a Muslima whose ethnicity is a Somali but grew up in the west will marry a Muslim man from the west irrespective of ethnicity. Again I am going back to my earlier point: These girls are Somali in name, their parents are Somali, but everything else about them is western. And if they are marrying Muslim men from the mosques, we should say alhamdulillaah. Imagine the women who marry gaalo. Kawaran kuwa gaalada kula jira relationship xaaraan ah. A chaste Muslim Somali woman who marries a fellow Muslim man, irrespective of ethnicity, should be supported and not discriminated since she is in a halal marriage!

One last point I want to add, Somalis are not like Kurds, Pakistanis, Turkeys, and some of other ethnic groups who would kill their daughters if they marry outside of their ethnic groups. We're more tolerant, and this is an area where those girls don't worry about the consequences. Life is not hanging in the balance when a Somali woman marries out, whereas in other ethnic groups that I mentioned, bot the girl and her husband are in danger of being killed if that marriage is not accepted.

Sorry about the long post!

Im not suprised to see people that bash their own people also put foreigners on pedestal in this thread and its simple because of their own insecurities+religious beliefs but would like to appear "tolerant" infront of us. I believe this will have a backlash, one way or other. Reverts in the future might take majority somali in name females but them and their offspring will most likely not be considered somali anymore and since the female was only somali in name, the culture ends there aswell. We as somalis want to exist as people and people that promotes this "we are ummah" card or marrying of somali girls of to unsuitable "partners" will be locked down on. Self preservation trumps all and if people are extreme in ways to push down this "we are ummah card" down our throats then more somalis will reject religion because it will spell the end of us as people.

Most Somali women marry Somali men anyway. Literally all the Somali weddings I've been, save one, the bride and groom were both Somali. The other one was a Somali man marrying an Indian woman.

With that being said, I want to marry a Yemeni.

^ you mean this Yemeni?

Estranged wrote:Most Somali women marry Somali men anyway. Literally all the Somali weddings I've been, save one, the bride and groom were both Somali. The other one was a Somali man marrying an Indian woman.

With that being said, I want to marry a Yemeni.

Enjoy your future Dhego Cas husband.