Iran threatens Gulf blitz if US hits nuclear plants

[Grant]

"As a Deist, what's the source of your interest in Zionists and defending unreliable Zionist sources?"

TAM,

As a Deist, I have always found it necessary to sift the kernals of truth from the chaff. I have been following Debka for nearly a year now and have found them generally reliable and easy to adjust for the Israeli viewpoint. They don't soft pedal when they make a mistake.

There is nothing wrong with posting a wide range of issues and perspectives. Muslims on this site are quite adept at knocking down anything false or very objectionable.

And just how is it that radical Islamist sites are more reliable?

[*Arabman]

[And just how is it that radical Islamist sites are more reliable?]

A few examples of radical Islamist sites?

[Koronto91]

The Prophet (saw) said one of the signs of the day of judgement is that there will be a HUGE battle between the Muslims & non-Muslims, I have a feeling the situation in the Middle East is ripe for such an event.

Allahu A'lam!

[paidmonk]

Paidmonk,

Iran or Aryana is the original name of the land from Afghanistan in the east, the ferghana valley to the north(uzbekistan)
to the borders of Todays Iran,
The nazis got the name from them.

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I know that the term comes from that region and I know Hitler borrowed his propaganda from that area, but never was that region called 'Aryan' or 'Iran', it was just the homeland of the Indo-Aryan race (early Europeans, Arabs, Anatolians, North Indians, etc.), and nothing more.

I was just pointing out that the Persians named their country Iran just a few decades ago, I thought it was Iran for at least a few hundred years now.

[Grant]

[quote="*Arabman"][And just how is it that radical Islamist sites are more reliable?]

A few examples of radical Islamist sites?[/quote]

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I was thinking of the one you quoted. That stuff is seriously warped.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2010

[gurey25]

[quote="Grant"][quote="*Arabman"][And just how is it that radical Islamist sites are more reliable?]

A few examples of radical Islamist sites?[/quote]

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I was thinking of the one you quoted. That stuff is seriously warped.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2010[/quote]


whats ironic is that Isreali sources are more reliable than, mainstream american news sources.
even the best that america can offer in its attempt at balanced journalism, for e.g Newsweek with jim leher from pbs
also tilts more towards isreal and especially likud policies than, Western European news sources or Isreali.

[*Arabman]

[I was thinking of the one you quoted. That stuff is seriously warped.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2010]

However, that's not a radical Islamist site. Grant, seriously, are you a Zionist? There's no need to hide it. There's already another Zionist member of this forum; MAD MAC.

[Grant]

TAM,

The site you quoted is seriously enough disturbed for me to consider it radical and not credible. Anything more radical is not even worth my looking at.

I am not sure any more what a Zionist is. If it means I think the Jews have a right to the land given them by the UN vote on partition, then I am a Zionist. I consider Palestinian and general Muslim claims that Israel has no right to exist to be stupid, ignorant of history and contrary to UN resolution and the laws of war.

This does not mean I think the Palestinians have no claim on the land, but it does underline my belief that those who won't share, having lost several wars, have no right to control anything. I see this as being anti-stupid and not pro-Jewish.

For what it's worth, I do NOT at all think of myself as a Zionist. That stuff has little meaning to a Deist.

[*Arabman]

[The site you quoted is seriously enough disturbed for me to consider it radical and not credible. Anything more radical is not even worth my looking at.]

The fact that an American site whose hosting is based in Utah has seriously disturbed you is a clear indication that you're either a Zionist or pro-Zionist. Your track records of anti-Islam and anti-Muslim is also another indication. Why would someone who isn't a Zionist be bothered or seriously disturbed with such a site?

[I consider Palestinian and general Muslim claims that Israel has no right to exist to be stupid, ignorant of history and contrary to UN resolution and the laws of war.]

What if the majority of Muslims believe Israel has no right to exist? I am sure you're familiar with the history of Palestine under the Crusades occupation; it was liberated, and they say history repeats itself.

[This does not mean I think the Palestinians have no claim on the land, but it does underline my belief that those who won't share, having lost several wars, have no right to control anything. I see this as being anti-stupid and not pro-Jewish.]

What about the notion that the only way to retake what was taken with force is force?

[For what it's worth, I do NOT at all think of myself as a Zionist. That stuff has little meaning to a Deist.]

I am not going to push it; if you don't want to openly state you're a Zionist, that's fine.

[Grant]

TAM,

Let's be clear here. I did not say I was disturbed. I said the site was disturbed (In the sense of not being rational) and is not credible to me.

Let's also be clear about Israel. Half the land was NOT taken by force, and the second half was taken repeatedly by force of war because there was no peace for the first half.

I don't think the Jews had much to do with the Crusades, but, yes, history does repeat. This is the fourth, some would say the fifth, return from slavery for the Jewish people. They also consider it a liberation.

I try very hard to see both sides but I have to give it up when people start arguing politics in religious terms. It just doesn't compute. Nor does it go anywhere.

[Ureysoo]

--- “Predicting that Iran will obtain a nuclear weapon within three years and claiming to have a strike plan in place, senior American military officers have told The Jerusalem Post they support President George W. Bush's stance to do everything necessary to stop the Islamic Republic's race for nuclear power” ---

Loooool, it’s that kind of biting wit and hard sarcasm that makes the above paragraph sound so humorous. The raison d'être why US feels endangered is due 2 the fact Iran is wiling 2 increasingly sell its oil in currencies other than the US dollar. This can cause America 2 face entire economic failure. Moreover, Iran has a total authority 2 the system 2 make fuel roads, and nuclear power plants, Under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which enables them 2 serenely use nuclear technology. Beside, Iran has been accused of seeking 2 build up a nuclear weapons (without any sort of substantiation), and unlike North Korea they didn’t violate the decree and tested a nuclear device. As a result, the culpability falls on US shoulder, 4 contravening a key treaty. Well, that’s just the nature of the US Government. It constantly breaks its word and breach the terms of various agreements.

Additionally, "Securing the Realm" document presents a plan whereby Israel would form its strategic environment, @ the expense of other countries/states. This clarifies the war on Iraq, and preparations 2 bulldoze all the anti-Israel governments, and as I presuppose Iran happens 2 be one of the countries in that list. US is the tool used 2 accomplish that stratagem, since they are supporting Israel 4 political predispositions. Apparently, Israel is done with all the peace process, and wants 2 be in command of the area by hook or by crook, and I think the US and Israel forces will certainly use global Strike 2 eliminate Iranian forces. This can be done overnight 2 the whole of Iran territory, and without any noticeable signal......


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[kadarre]

Spoken like a true lady.

[Ureysoo]

Lol, Thanks, I will take it as a compliment....


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