walal mujahida bro/sis (sorry forgot whether u was a boy or girl)
can we plz end this "Religion" debate, everyone seem to be going round in circles and people like smooth will not listen to wat anybody got to say.
so ignore him and plz don't waste anymore time on this.
mansha allah a lot of people here got a lot of knowledge about the deen and instead of arguing all day about irrelevant things i think you should concentrate on dawa. Most people here don't know a lot about islam..even the very basics. instead of wasting time arguing about different methedology and sects, why don't you educate people on the basic rules of the deen. things that everyone agrees on. from wudu, prayer, conditions of the prayer, anything that people need to know about in everyday life.
military..thnx. walahi i don't where this salafis vs smooth debate started but it needs to stop!!
people should put their knowledge into better use. and if they want to preach about islam, they should start with the basics...half the people here don't have a clue about the very basics of the deen and in deep discussion about correct methodology and difference between the islamic secs are not what they need.
Lander-4-life i totally agree with you sis. We should be helping each other and teaching each other. If everyone contributes with their knowledge and asks questions about what they don't know and gives contractive feedback we would all benefit insha'Allah. But as long as their are people like Smooth who feel the need to make a whole topic based on slandering his brothers and sisters in Islam, you will always have arguements. But insha'Allah we should all try harder.
military-mind and MujahidaFiSabililah i always see you two arguing lol but i think you two would get on fine if you just try to understand each other. You both seem to think the other one is undermining you when in reality i don't think either of you are doing that so shaydaanka iska naara and make up insha'Allah
I must urge you not to get offended when people have horrible misconceptions about The Salafi Dawa'h as often they are prejudiced against it.
As for Smooth indeed you accusation is a serious one and one should indeed not utter something that is not the truth as the consequences of that small lie is big in the eyes of Allah Subhana Wa'taala. I will not argue with Smooth...it rather pains me that one can be so blind to truth... I advise you Brother to not be so hateful and do some research if not that is entirely up to you, inshallah I will make Dua for you and pray to Allah that you may receive guidance for indeed I love all my brothers and sisters only for the sake of Allah...and in the midst of this heated discussions across many topics we seem to have forgotten the love we should hold for each other, so Brother smooth I respect you and forgive me if I have angered you as I was only trying to show you the truth.
And please provide me with proof and quotes as to where i have preached hate towards people and give me an example of where i have not given you evidence such as Quran and Hadith??
Inshallah Brother Smooth do not insult anyone for you need to learn to guard your tongue as in the end it will only harm you and not I.
I have nothing more to say to you as I will leave this discussion eventhough i know that I and the people who are giving Da'wah are right when we defend ourselves and the way of the Salaf. I apologise for any mistakes i have made in my topics as I am only Human and I pray that Allah keep us safe from the Fire of Hell which is Indeed a terrible affliction.
Asalama Alaikum Warah'matulahi Wabarakatuhu.
~Love between people~
* THE PROPHET (SAW) SAID:
"NO TWO MEN LOVE ONE ANOTHER , BUT THE BETTER OF THEM IS THE ONE WHOSE LOVE FOR HIS BROTHER IS GREATER" [AL-BUKHARI IN AL-ADAB AL-MUFRAD]
* THE PROPHET (SAW) SAID:
" IF A MAN LOVES HIS BROTHER, LET HIM TELL HIM THAT HE LOVES HIM" [Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi, who said it is a sahih hadith]
* THE PROPHET (SAWS) WAS REPORTED TO HAVE SAID:
" BY THE ONE IN WHOSE HAND IS MY SOUL, YOU WILL NOT ENTER PARADISE UNTIL YOU BELIEVE, AND YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE UNTIL YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER. SHALL I NOT TELL YOU OF SOMETHING THAT IF YOU DO IT, YOU WILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER? SPREAD SALAAM AMONGST YOURSELVES." [MUSLIM}
* THE PROPHET (SAWS) WAS REPORTED TO HAVE SAID:
"THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BELIEVERS IS LIKE A WALL, PARTS OF WHICH SUPPORT OTHER PARTS" [MUSLIM]
A MUSLIM DOES NOT FORSAKE OR ABANDON HIS BROTHER
~The Prophet (SAW)said:
" NO TWO PEOPLE WHO LOVE ONE ANOTHER FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH, OR FOR THE SAKE OF ISLAM, WILL LET THE FIRST MINOR OFFENCE OF EITHER OF THEM COME BETWEEN THEM" [BUKHARI]
~The Prophet also has been reported to have said:
IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR A MUSLIM TO BE ESTRANGED FROM HIS BROTHER FOR MORE THAN THREE DAYS, BOTH OF THEM TURNING AWAY FROM ONE ANOTHER WHEN THEY MEET. THE BETTER OF THEM IS THE ONE WHO IS FIRST TO GREET THE OTHER" [BUKHARI AND MUSLIM]
~The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
"Whoever is estranged from his brother for a year, it is as if he has shed blood" {BUKHARI}
~Prophet Muhammad also has been reported to have said:
"There should be no breaking off of ties, no turning away from one another, no hating one another, and no envying one another. Be brothers, as Allah has commanded you" [MUSLIM}
Military Mind, yes it shows we know a lot more than YOU.
What do you think Asalamu Alaykum is? A slang which even black and mixed race non-muslims even know about. Do you think we made up asalamu alaykum ourselves? Do you think just because we are on the internet we don't need to say asalamu alaykum? Asalamu Alaykum is sunnah, so by me saying it does make me better than you in regards to greeting. It identifies me as a MUSLIM! Not salafi like smooth says, nor a shia, nor a wahabi but a MUSLIM.
Go and search through posts in relation to where I myself have made a mistake? Stop generlising and being a coward and state who has made a mistake and then correct them. Your all talk and no action. SubhanAllah.
I myself know 100% what I am talking about when I make topics here. I know that Allah subhana wa ta'ala is watching me and I make sincere du'as that I will be rewarded based on my intentions.
So yes I will talk about Islam. Just like Prophet Muhammed salahu alayhi wasalaam was abused when he wanted to spread the deen I will carry on spreading Islam on here and if you don't like it then go live a life of jahil, doesn't bother me.
Smooth, like Bint Adana said, show the thread when we have adressed ourselves as Salafis, otherwise naga amuus.
Wasalaam[/quote]
salaam to you too, why are you so angry?
you know when the prophet was abused either in words or in actions he always turned the other way, only after years of hardship and TORTURE did he fight back. how dare you liken some discussion on an internet board to the suffering the prophet went through for our deen?
telling people you KNOW better than them always has the effect of making you out to be some holier than thou prick, so why not DEMONSTRATE what you know. be the first to seek forgiveness, and in no way should you be sure of your own invinsbillity.
yeh tru say walahi.....laakin lets jus teach each other frm what we knw of the deen Of Allah..instead of wasting our time n effort on people like smooth.../......
ENDURE4ALLAH ,toby, MujahidaFiSabililah, _BuFF_GYAL_,& Bint_Adan, North Brother, Sweet Ladyee .. JazzakAllah for dealing with the matter in a polite manner regardless of the numerous insults/attacks (It makes me proud to be a Muslim and to love the teachings of my religion) & remembering what is important (the Qur'aan iyo Sunnah) may Allah reward you all and continue to guide all of us (the Ummah of the Rusullah saw) Aameen.