Seeing this makes me change my opinion on Xamar.......

[FAH1223]

[quote="paidmonk"]FAH1223,

I live in Minnesota, what makes you think I have any affect on African politics? [/quote]

Thats not the point kid

its amazing how people like YOU try to change their stripes after seeing the reality and what all the other niccaz been telling you

[MJ-Pride]

I have Said it before And I'd repeat it again, this is Allahs punishment for Hawiye for what they have done to Daroods some two decades ago. Darods Suffered more than that. I'd say let the nature take its course. I remember when I was Young this Abgaal man blew up and entire Family darood that resided a mile a way from Our house. 11 family members died in that tragedy. I cried seeing the kids that I used to play dead : Only One girl left from that family and the Moryaans took her after a while

[cabdallah252]

[quote="paidmonk"]Cabdallah,

My dad also lived in Somalia past the civil war (91-92 in Kismayo, 93 in Xamar, 94-99 in Kismayo). But there was no business to be done, I mean, like, no service or retail business was open because people didn't have money to buy the products or service.

My dad and his company just deforested Lower Jubba and packaged charcoal, then sold it to foreign buyers at the port. That was literally the only business solution. No livestock export because of the restrictions and banning, no agriculture-related jobs because without a government, there wasn't proper care and irrigation, so that was deemed impossible.

You see, cabdallah, no matter what, unless the civilians have REAL jobs and REAL income, nothing is possible. We need a real government, that ALL Somalis, not one or two clans, can accept. Its the ONLY way.[/quote]


my pops lives between bosaso, gaalkacyo, djibouti, addis ababa, hargeisa and dubai, i currently live in his villa in dubai

he is into construction, transport, real estate, import, export you name it he has stake in it. most of his revenue comes from trading with xabashi though

[paidmonk]

Cabdallah, see what I mean. No matter, what, we're losing. On every end. We can't even choose who we trade with, we just go with what feeds us at the moment.

Decline at its worst.

[cabdallah252]

[quote="paidmonk"]Cabdallah, see what I mean. No matter, what, we're losing. On every end. We can't even choose who we trade with, we just go with what feeds as at the moment.

Decline at its worst.[/quote]


i think he even speaks broken amharic wallahi, he has a office there.

[paidmonk]

WTF!

[Luq_Ganane]

Cabdallah,

If your family is wealth, then Alxamdurialh thats good. Lakin thats not a criterion to say that all of Somalia is doing well because your family is doing well. Theres irrigitable land that cannot be irrigated becaue of lack of Gov't. Back in the day when there was drought, planes would come and evacuate and even relocate whole clans. Now, we just wait for the fake UN agencies. Hospitals, roads, clinics, sewage, electricity, running water etc. are ALL absent due to a lack of Gov't. Somalias in the tubes.


Pride,

To be honest I don't even think Darood went through anything like this. Once Xamar was evacuated most Daroods just went to their lands and life went on. Lakin these guys are living under trees (paying rent for the shade), eating trash for food, and having their kids die of malnutrician a la Baidoa etc. The worst thing is unlike a lot of Daroods, going to Nairobi, Europe, Canada etc. is out of the question. Remember Daroods were being settled in the USA double the amount of Bantus that are resettled in the US today. These guys don't have the option becasue there "terrorists". Again I don't take delight in these women, kids etc. dying because there not the ones that did any crimes. As for the war goes no question it was ugly. One of the most ugliest things was my 1st cousin who said he will never leave Xamar because of his business interests. He also said because of his Habar Gidir wife and kids, he was safe. Guess what? His own brother in Law (brother of his wife) barged into his shop and gunned him down in broad daylight in front of his kids.

Lakin Ilahay's the avenger, and whoever did that Allah will deal with but we need a country in the worse way dude. The cuqdad and anger isn't going to help. Lets forgive each other, build a country and move on.

[FAH1223]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]I have Said it before And I'd repeat it again, this is Allahs punishment for Hawiye for what they have done to Daroods some two decades ago. Darods Suffered more than that. I'd say let the nature take its course. I remember when I was Young this Abgaal man blew up and entire Family darood that resided a mile a way from Our house. 11 family members died in that tragedy. I cried seeing the kids that I used to play dead : Only One girl left from that family and the Moryaans took her after a while[/quote]

sxb

is killing hawiye sanctioned then? I mean, if you were in Somalia would you strap up and kill people just as those before oppressed you and killed your family?

do two wrongs (the opression of hawiye against you, and the oppression those same clans have now against the ethiopians/TFG forces) make a right?

is revenge Islamic?

[MJ-Pride]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="MJ-Pride"]I have Said it before And I'd repeat it again, this is Allahs punishment for Hawiye for what they have done to Daroods some two decades ago. Darods Suffered more than that. I'd say let the nature take its course. I remember when I was Young this Abgaal man blew up and entire Family darood that resided a mile a way from Our house. 11 family members died in that tragedy. I cried seeing the kids that I used to play dead : Only One girl left from that family and the Moryaans took her after a while[/quote]

sxb

is killing hawiye sanctioned then? I mean, if you were in Somalia would you strap up and kill people just as those before oppressed you and killed your family?

do two wrongs (the opression of hawiye against you, and the oppression those same clans have now against the ethiopians/TFG forces) make a right?

is revenge Islamic?[/quote]
Of course Revenge is Islmaic Fah. Allah said ' Eye for an Eye, Ear for an Ear' Also, You kill Someone, you get killed. Of course it will be under Sharia Law'. Most of this is destiny and you can't change it I am afriad

[cabdallah252]

most of the moryaans of the begin 90s are already dead

these are new moryaan MJ pride

[FAH1223]

[quote="MJ-Pride"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="MJ-Pride"]I have Said it before And I'd repeat it again, this is Allahs punishment for Hawiye for what they have done to Daroods some two decades ago. Darods Suffered more than that. I'd say let the nature take its course. I remember when I was Young this Abgaal man blew up and entire Family darood that resided a mile a way from Our house. 11 family members died in that tragedy. I cried seeing the kids that I used to play dead : Only One girl left from that family and the Moryaans took her after a while[/quote]

sxb

is killing hawiye sanctioned then? I mean, if you were in Somalia would you strap up and kill people just as those before oppressed you and killed your family?

do two wrongs (the opression of hawiye against you, and the oppression those same clans have now against the ethiopians/TFG forces) make a right?

is revenge Islamic?[/quote]
Of course Revenge is Islmaic Fah. Allah said ' Eye for an Eye, Ear for an Ear' Also, You kill Someone, you get killed. Of course it will be under Sharia Law'. Most of this is destiny and you can't change it I am afriad[/quote]

but is it islamic to kill children not even 10 yrs old and women who were kids themselves in the 90s in the name of this revenge?

[King-of-Awdal]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Paid,

Its one thing to be explited by a world power. Say like Djbouti with France. But Somalias being exploited by starving to death Ethiopia, and going to one of the top 6 poorest countries in the world in search of food (Yemen).[/quote]


We arent being Exploited by the French. only reason they are there was because Etho and Somalia both wanted to incoprate Djbouti into their little facked up world. 8)

[Somaliweyn Commando]

waaban uu sii socdaa

i gotta work out more agressively