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Xoogsade,

This Somaliweyn character is one of those guys you let say whatever they want.

Galia as Gedo boy said mareexaan or darood didn't give siad bare any power or ruling, class, sharaaf, respect, power and all that comes with success must be earned buy the individual, and as you admitted he was a good man ilaheey janada ha geyo but the thing is one person cannot know and give every order or thing that happens in his country, the same mareexaan and darood you talk off including hawiye isaaq and others are the same officials who gave orders, stole ,money ,killed and did bad things to the public and every one accused one man siad bare.

guhaad hadadaan aheyn ogadeen plz respect peoples qabiilsand dont act like one.

if you are ogadeen siad bare and all somalis = sucrificed their lives wealth and country and suffered the world to put sanctions on somalia and israeli pilots to destroy somali tanks planes and cities cuba/soviet union to counter attack the somali army mercillesly and more somali refugees to settle somalia and militias to rise up against that idea and for the (dark ages to visit somalia)and for us to be here.

sheekadaan dinac noo dhiga..awoowgiin la gub,meel idoor caloosha ka bararay cribta ha itirina. siad barre allah u naxriisto waa nin qabiil ahaan inadeer ii ah,at the same time waa nin aan abti u ahay and was born in ogadenia.
may allah grant him ease in the grave and jannatul fardosa,he was a good leader ask ranold ragon

Whether it is Siyad Barre (aun)

General Daud type (aun)

Aaaden Cadde (aun)

Sayyid Cabdelle (aun)

Ahmed Guraey

Emir Nur

Muhammed Siyad

May Allah give Somalis good leaders.

Galia might be confused about his/her sex but this thing is a good person with good intentios!!.

If only more reer-jalaf sacad saciid thought like u!!!

Dont say ''we hawiye''.You are not our representative

Thank you.

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Whether it is Siyad Barre (aun)

General Daud type (aun)

Aaaden Cadde (aun)

Sayyid Cabdelle (aun)

Ahmed Guraey

Emir Nur

Muhammed Siyad

May Allah give Somalis good leaders. [/quote]


Is there a reason why you left out Ina Sharmaarke (aun)? Because he's MJ right?


Son of a b!tch! Mentions Barre even twice and some mythical figure, but leaves out one of the few real presidents of Somalia who was assasinated by his own kinsman.

Besides, Maxamed Ibraahim Cigaal was a good leader as well and deserves to be on that list. War kan waa a bag of doritos iska socoto.

[quote="Starscream"][quote="Luq_Ganane"]Whether it is Siyad Barre (aun)

General Daud type (aun)

Aaaden Cadde (aun)

Sayyid Cabdelle (aun)

Ahmed Guraey

Emir Nur

Muhammed Siyad

May Allah give Somalis good leaders. [/quote]


Is there a reason why you left out Ina Sharmaarke (aun)? Because he's MJ right?


Son of a b!tch! Mentions Barre even twice and some mythical figure, but leaves out one of the few real presidents of Somalia who was assasinated by his own kinsman.

Besides, Maxamed Ibraahim Cigaal was a good leader as well and deserves to be on that list. War kan waa a bag of doritos iska socoto.[/quote]


I AGREE CABDIRASHID CALI SHARMARKE AND AND ADAN CABDULLA CISMAAN
WHERE THE TO BEST PRESIDENT OF SOMALIA EVER HAD

AND HE IS RIGHT INA CIGAAL DESERVSE TO BE ON THAT LIST
HE WAS THE ONE UU BRITISH SOMALILAND IYO ITALINA SOMALIA XAMMAR ISKU RAACIYE

BILA SHARUUD WARYAA

Perhaps Quule is the problem..because all the ones that consume it become delusional and ignorant to the point of uttering nonsense.

There is no sane person that can argue that Barre's dictatorship was good for Somalia, and that he had nothing to do with the destruction of the Somali Republic.

You just need to look at 1969, when he took power, and the promises he made.

Here is Siad Barre's justification for the coup:


''Intervention by the Armed Forces was inevitable. It was no longer possible
to ignore the evil things like corruption, bribery, nepotism, theft of public
funds, injustice and disrespect to our religion and the laws of the country.
The laws were thrust aside and people did whatever they wanted.''

These were the promises made in 1969....if we fastforward to 1991, on the eve of the end of his dictatorship we can see that nepotism, clannism, corruption, theft of public funds were all widespread.

In conclusion:

Siad Barre stole the ruling seat by proclaiming that he would eradicate evil things like clannism, nepotism, corruption and would restore a sense of confidence in national will and a minimum basis for national cooperation. In the first years of his rule he came with PR-stunts which secured him popular support. But as soon as the economic windfalls generated by the previous civilian government ended after 1974, Siad Barre had to secure his wide support and launched a premature invasion of Ethiopia to gain the Ogaden region, this turned disastrous despite the courageous effort of Somali soldiers. After the 77 war things went really bad, economy was bankrubt, self-reliance policy abandoned in favour of IMF-ism, clannism, nepotism and corruption surfaced back. Instead of restoring confidence in national will and a minimum basis for national cooperation, and fighting the evils of the previous civilian government Siad Barre’s oppressive military dictatorship further underminned any credibility the Somali state had, and ultimately destroyed any confidence and hope Somalis had in a neutral Somali state which rises above clan structured society and is free from nepotism, corruption and clannism. The dead of the First Republic of Somalia was a fact when Siad Barre was forcefully removed from the capital of Somalia. His brutal repressive measures undermined any future national unity and the required minimum of trust between the different Somali groups which is the basis for national cooperation. This was only further exacerbated by the civil war and enduring anarchy in many parts of Somalia.

This is only the political aspect, let alone how Barre's regime destroyed Somalia economically (bankrubt economy), socially (clannism widespread) and militarily (army used as private guard by Barre against the Somali civilians it had to protect).

http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=264&t=120042

No sane person can deny that these things happened.

So stop consuming Quule and admitt the truth.

As for, the physical destruction of Somalia...since Somalia was Xamar, then the blame is on the inhabitants of Xamar, more precisely the two individuals that started the unnecesary bloodshed and destruction: Aideed and Ali Mahdi.

Still, this physical destruction is nothing compared to the deeper lying destruction of the very fabric that held the major Somali groups togethet and lead to the establishment of the first Somali Republic in 1960.

The corrupt government of 1960-1969 started the decay of the Somali Republic, and the 21 years of dictatorship destroyed the last remaining parts of the Somali Republic.


Again no sane person can argue that Barre's dictatorship was good for Somalia, and that he had nothing to do with the destruction of the Somali Republic.

Empty Minds

Lets just all agree that Siad barre and he's government were all siants compared to AY and gheedi.

Atleast siad barre hated ethiopia and loved somalia.

Atleast under siad barre we somalis had an ounce of respect in the international community.

^That is true Galia! You are the true Sacads i see everyday in real life, nothing like the kids here

Thanks for admitting, that Hawiye destroyed Somalia.

Starscream,

Dude quit the PMS attack. I really did forget Abdirashid Sharmake (aun).