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Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:31 pm
by luis1
Dont forget these enemies.


1) URSS

2) CUBA

Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:33 pm
by Twisted_Logic
RebelLion wrote:
hyperactive wrote:somali peoplke are enemy to each other period.
hasad iyo gheerah, kork etc
Exactly, how long do somali's want to blame others for their own problems. Reminds me of the african americans, who always want to blame whitey for their lack of cohesion.
That's just an expedient method of shifting the blame from the conspirators and into the hands of the victims. The Somali people have been exploited and used by warlords and their clan-supporters fulfilling a sinister agenda of division and destruction engineered by external forces such as Ethiopia and the Arab World without knowing the long-term effects of such reckless conduct. Somalis have every right to question and criticize the behavior of our so-called arabian "brothers." Blaming the Somali tragedy on the Somali people is like blaming the puppet while the puppet-master is ignored and in some cases hailed. Your African-American analogy is just too ignorant and so churlish. Somalia will never settle down so long as regional countries are able to exploit the Somali differences to suit their agenda.

Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:44 pm
by AlphaMale
Real Somali enemies:

A- Themselves.
B- Themselves.
C- Themselves.



Ethiopia and USA are pursuing their national interests using Somali proxies who do the job for them better than the two could have achieved.

Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:07 am
by Haddad
Twisted_Logic wrote:Somalia will never settle down so long as regional countries are able to exploit the Somali differences to suit their agenda.
The struggle is being fought at the battlefields. The prognosis for America is pessimistic; it isn't winning at the battlefields, and it's bankrupting at home. It's only a matter of time before the regional/international countries can no longer exploit Somali differences.

Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:41 am
by RebelLion
Twisted_Logic wrote:
RebelLion wrote:
hyperactive wrote:somali peoplke are enemy to each other period.
hasad iyo gheerah, kork etc
Exactly, how long do somali's want to blame others for their own problems. Reminds me of the african americans, who always want to blame whitey for their lack of cohesion.
That's just an expedient method of shifting the blame from the conspirators and into the hands of the victims. The Somali people have been exploited and used by warlords and their clan-supporters fulfilling a sinister agenda of division and destruction engineered by external forces such as Ethiopia and the Arab World without knowing the long-term effects of such reckless conduct. Somalis have every right to question and criticize the behavior of our so-called arabian "brothers." Blaming the Somali tragedy on the Somali people is like blaming the puppet while the puppet-master is ignored and in some cases hailed. Your African-American analogy is just too ignorant and so churlish. Somalia will never settle down so long as regional countries are able to exploit the Somali differences to suit their agenda.
So now your Ethiopia, arabs, and the west have been conspiring against somali's? For what purpose exactly give concrete examples? Are somali's simply primates easily confused and told what to do, or do we own up to our problems? Blaming ones problems on external factor never leads to a solution. Ethiopia is after it's interests, and if somali's were doing the same we would not be in this predicament. The fact that somali's are easily exploitable is part of the problem, do you know the number of different ethnicities in ethiopia, yet Ethiopia is doing better than somali's that share a similar religion, culture? No sxb, somali's number one enemy is somali's. Somali's do not like to see each other succeed, there is innate xaasidnimo within us and no cohesion, sometimes I believe we are better off going on our own way.

Re: Greatest external Enemy of the Somali People

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:52 am
by Twisted_Logic
RebelLion,

See, the thing is you can't go beyond the typical Somali Geel-Jere knee-jerk responses but sadly as always, you can't even find a fig-leaf to hide the gaping holes of logic. "Blaming ones problems on external factor never leads to a solution," It is just sad how misguided your views really are. Ethiopia has a clear interest in seeing Somalia disintegrate into series of clan-dominated turfs controlled by warlords that it can manage and exploit to further its heinous agenda of seeing a perpetual Somali clan conflicts. A weak and divided Somalia that can not pose any credible threat to the Ethiopian regime or its strategic goals. The kind of entities you envision when you say, "sometimes I believe we are better off going on our own way."

The blame for Somali's tragedy rests squarely on the shoulders of warlords and traitors who shove Ethiopian's agenda down on the throats of the Somali people and their misguided clan-based supporters who can't think on their own. The ones,SomaliWayne calls "transmission belts," who can't say nothing but rhapsodize the warlord's talking points incessantly without pausing for a second and analyzing the stupidity of their logic.

Brother, you are fundamentally confused on many points. Ethiopian, Arabian and Western interests are perfectly aligned and they pile up against our Somali interest. They use warlords and other clan agitators to create rifts and tension between the Somali people and they can always count on people like you and Somalian_Boqor and Shilling to come aboard and defend them purely out of clan allegiance. Your clan-emotions which manifests itself in your support for a warlord-run government makes it difficult for you to get a grasp on the facts but at least make an effort.

Don't ever blame the innocent women and children who are facing a collective punishment from Ethiopia, the West and the Arabian world for their suffering. Show some decency and point your finger at the true predators and not on the victim.