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Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:19 pm
by Shirib
GENERAL_SNM wrote:I'm going to argue about the contents in the quran because I dont have the knowledge or wisdom.All I'm saying is to those who are beating the drums for an Islamic state, why dont you practice what you preach and move to an Islamic state.If your saying those Islamic states are not really Islamic, can you tell us what type of islamic state you have in mind?
So...u are anti an Islamic State?
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:22 pm
by Haddad
GENERAL_SNM wrote:If your saying those Islamic states are not really Islamic, can you tell us what type of islamic state you have in mind?
Who are "us"? Who do you represent? Your question could have been answered if you asked it as an individual.
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:24 pm
by King-of-Awdal
Shirib
He did not state his anti Isamic state but he did raise a real question. How come your not living in an Islamic state like Iran.

Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:28 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
Shirib and co, I dont think you have thought this Islamic state thing through.You wont answer my question.I have made this thread to give you guys the chance to put your case for an Islamic state through.You have not been able to put anything that would convince a child forward, let alone adult.
All I'm asking is what you have in mind, can you share it with us?
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:31 pm
by Shirib
There are no Islamic States currently. The Islamic Courts were actually pretty close but the world just ahd to destroy them. I wonder why?
I would want an Islamic State close to the one which the courts were ruling with.
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:31 pm
by Shirib
Its time for afur so I'm out folks, see what ya'll say when I come back later.
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:59 pm
by SummerRain
I dont think an Islamic state will work for the greater portion of Somalis. I mean, do you just expect us to leave qabayalaad behind just like that?

Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:05 pm
by FAH1223
Ismahan123 wrote:I dont think an Islamic state will work for the greater portion of Somalis. I mean, do you just expect us to leave qabayalaad behind just like that?

Yes.
The qabilist are the ones in the West and the corrupt leadership.
Rest of Somalis aren't and just trying to survive

Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:12 pm
by SummerRain
FAH1223 wrote:Ismahan123 wrote:I dont think an Islamic state will work for the greater portion of Somalis. I mean, do you just expect us to leave qabayalaad behind just like that?

Yes.
The qabilist are the ones in the West and the corrupt leadership.
Rest of Somalis aren't and just trying to survive

Says the xabaashi lover.

Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:14 pm
by James Dahl
The Islamists weren't so bad, they're certainly better than the alternative.
Somalia needs to put its house in order first. Without a monarchy or a dictatorship, it is inevitable that liberalization and personal freedoms will follow the establishment of a national government not beholden to clan interests. It is important to establish that the leader of the state cannot entrench himself into power.
Prosperity, development and security inevitably leads to liberalization, while systemic poverty leads to the opposite.
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:16 pm
by FAH1223
Ismahan123 wrote:
Says the xabaashi lover.

*Takes dacas of feet*
*Slaps you with it*
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:16 pm
by King-of-Awdal
James Dahl wrote:The Islamists weren't so bad, they're certainly better than the alternative.
Somalia needs to put its house in order first. Without a monarchy or a dictatorship, it is inevitable that liberalization and personal freedoms will follow the establishment of a national government not beholden to clan interests. It is important to establish that the leader of the state cannot entrench himself into power.
Prosperity, development and security inevitably leads to liberalization, while systemic poverty leads to the opposite.
Says so Jamac Dahir.

By the way ill be in BC in Dec. 8)
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:19 pm
by SummerRain
FAH1223 wrote:Ismahan123 wrote:
Says the xabaashi lover.

*Takes dacas of feet*
*Slaps you with it*
Hmm that abuser husband thread rubbed off on you eh?

Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:20 pm
by James Dahl
King-of-Awdal wrote:James Dahl wrote:The Islamists weren't so bad, they're certainly better than the alternative.
Somalia needs to put its house in order first. Without a monarchy or a dictatorship, it is inevitable that liberalization and personal freedoms will follow the establishment of a national government not beholden to clan interests. It is important to establish that the leader of the state cannot entrench himself into power.
Prosperity, development and security inevitably leads to liberalization, while systemic poverty leads to the opposite.
Says so Jamac Dahir.

By the way ill be in BC in Dec. 8)
Hey cool, I should show you around Vancouver.
Don't stay in Vancouver very long though, it's actually a bit of a boring city unless you're into outdoors activities like hiking and bike riding.
December's actually the worst time to visit, it'll just rain the whole time you're here and Vancouver will seem like a ghost town.
Re: Islamic State of Somalia
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:22 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
James Dahl wrote:The Islamists weren't so bad, they're certainly better than the alternative.
Somalia needs to put its house in order first. Without a monarchy or a dictatorship, it is inevitable that liberalization and personal freedoms will follow the establishment of a national government not beholden to clan interests. It is important to establish that the leader of the state cannot entrench himself into power.
Prosperity, development and security inevitably leads to liberalization, while systemic poverty leads to the opposite.
No offense but everytime you speak about somalia, I get this feeling like your talking down.I have a bad case of anti-white man syndrome and you constantly putting your divisive views on to us does't help.I got rid of your people in the 60's and are not going to start listning to you.You need to start looking at your role on snet are you here as an observer or enforcer or something else, for the life of me I cant undersand you.I think you a government agent personally.