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Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:33 pm
by Voltage
Even a baby will see a typo in that sentence and exchange "we can't" to "why can't" which is might I add a rhetorical question.
WE CAN trust the government.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:37 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
How comes the richest country on earth cant provide free health for all its citizens. I mean UK does it as well as most countries in the west who aren't as rich as the US.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:38 pm
by Voltage
GENERAL_SNM wrote:How comes the richest country on earth cant provide free health for all its citizens. I mean UK does it as well as most countries in the west who aren't as rich as the US.
Long political history...starting with communism, socialism, soviets, right wing political ideology, up to now
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:52 pm
by Shirwac_1
GENERAL_SNM wrote:How comes the richest country on earth cant provide free health for all its citizens. I mean UK does it as well as most countries in the west who aren't as rich as the US.
Good point sxbkey. A man who is strugling with health issue cant think straight you know.
Voltage igaraali noqo sxb. I just wanned to make sure.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:32 pm
by SummerRain
Oh dont even get me started on H-care.
On a personal note, I pay $25 a month for Health Care benefits, covered at 80%.

Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:32 pm
by razzberry
I couldn’t pick any of the poll options.
I have health care but it’s not the best of plans. I don’t want public government run health care either. I would much rather see improvement in the healthcare system we have now.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:42 pm
by Shirwac_1
^^
May I ask why dont you want to run the goverment the health care?
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:44 pm
by FAH1223
Shirwac_1 wrote:^^
May I ask why dont you want to run the goverment the health care?
she doesnt wanna pay more taxes
reason #1

Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:50 pm
by Shirwac_1
lol @ no taxs. sxb I talk in my sleep screaming no taxs. I feel her.
But what about the fact the world's 1/3 economy is here?
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:52 pm
by Amethyst
FAH1223 wrote:Just want to post a poll to see how everyone here feels about their present health care plan. National polls are suggesting the American people are comfortable keeping what they have instead of changing to something else or something unknown to them. Let's see if SNET agrees.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter". Its all in how you package it to these Americans. The smarter ones of them seemed to be cautious seeing how all the options for the past coupla decades had been getting shittier and shittier. The rest comfortable and content until shit hits the fan and they get screwed over royally with their local Doc bill during a visit. If you tell them JUST how much of benefit it is to them, they'll reconsider.
As for the vote, I just don't trust our government enough to think that the Health care lobbyists wont jack up our prices once we get that mandatory coverage. If not under Obama, under the next presidents.But as it stands America cant afford to F this one up with all the debts its in.

Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:38 pm
by DerbiJiiF
The US GDP was 14 Trillion before the bust. 1/6 (15.3%), or about 2.4 trillion was spend on health care. Put it in another way, $7,439 per person, yet people go to bankruptcy. Why would a small brain surgery cost $150, 000. Can you not see people are robbed in a broad day light?
Check this story even with insured ones:
[i]"Linda and John Stewardson of Alexandria, Va. Linda Stewardson survived a brain tumor, but the couple's insurance capped out at $150,000 of coverage and their health care costs have left them owing more than $100,000 in medical bills. More than 25 million Americans like the Stewardsons are considred underinsured, in addition to the 47 million without health insurance[/i]"
Better yet, let's compare it how much Germany and France citizens pay:
Germany, healthcare spending is 10.7% of its GDP. With that comes on average about $3800 per person
France, spends around 11.1% or roughly $3400 per person.
Amethyst are you happy with that? We are paying more and at the same time going to bankruptcy?
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:26 pm
by Amethyst
DerbiJiiF wrote:The US GDP was 14 Trillion before the bust. 1/6 (15.3%), or about 2.4 trillion was spend on health care. Put it in another way, $7,439 per person, yet people go to bankruptcy. Why would a small brain surgery cost $150, 000. Can you not see people are robbed in a broad day light?
Check this story even with insured ones:
"Linda and John Stewardson of Alexandria, Va. Linda Stewardson survived a brain tumor, but the couple's insurance capped out at $150,000 of coverage and their health care costs have left them owing more than $100,000 in medical bills. More than 25 million Americans like the Stewardsons are considred underinsured, in addition to the 47 million without health insurance"
Better yet, let's compare it how much Germany and France citizens pay:
Germany, healthcare spending is 10.7% of its GDP. With that comes on average about $3800 per person
France, spends around 11.1% or roughly $3400 per person.
Amethyst are you happy with that? We are paying more and at the same time going to bankruptcy?
Derbi, I'm not happy with it at all. Matter of fact, we're getting screwed either way as the private one, gets higher and higher for every year that goes. It still doesn't change the fact that I don't like whats on the table as we speak. I agree that the U.S just needs to nip this one in the bud, and for once and for all find a solution. But as it stands please don't forget the only reason why they are having this discussion in the first place. Do you think that it has anything to do with helping poor little Timmy with the brain tumor's or anything? No, no, no...ur gonna keep seeing those 150k operations getting more and more expensive. The only difference is that government is now gonna pick up the check and cover him, and EVERYONE is gonna have to start paying for it by way of the taxes, and forced memberships to stuff they dont really need dictated by congress reps. Again we're only talking abt this because in some F'd up ways its tied to the Econ being in the shit-hole and they thing by solving the crisis that the its all magically gonna disappear. Until the US gets rid of the lobbyists, and "pharmaceutical" companies hold, things arn't EVER gonna work out for the common person.
lol....Btw, how are u gonna compare this damn continent that cant tell its left foot from its right, let alone cover 360 million peeps, with these European pacifist, and Social welfare states? Kindah funny how the two nations you picked happen to be the loudest ones in bailing out of come 2010', too. Before all the global econ probs they are now "feeling" all Germany and France had to worry about was how to keep immigrants out and support their small-sized population by way of all the surpluses they get from trading and such. Pretty much it, actually.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:00 am
by DerbiJiiF
It is mind boggling to see how people here is the US are against goverment, yet few things to bonder
1. You are save to walk, shop, eat, do what every you want thanks to the goverment. The most precious service "safety of citizens" is provided by the goverment and they do excellent job. No privite company can step in and do it. Yet people do not appriciate that. May be they take it for granted, but people who lived in a war raged countries know what it means.
2. The second most important thing " up to K12" education is provided by the goverment - I'm not interested the privite schools, but the majority of the people are educated by the public schools. Can a privite system do it, sure. But you would have a country that has few people who can write and majority who are illiterate. Thanks to the wonderfull public education, the literary system the U.S is among the highest of the developing countries.
People should appriciate what they have, but the majority seems like they have been brainwashed for so long that they can not understand what is good or bad for them.
Re: USA: How U feel about your health care plan or lack thereof?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:25 am
by Shirwac_1
DerbiJiiF wrote:It is mind boggling to see how people here is the US are against goverment, yet few things to bonder
1. You are save to walk, shop, eat, do what every you want thanks to the goverment. The most precious service "safety of citizens" is provided by the goverment and they do excellent job. No privite company can step in and do it. Yet people do not appriciate that. May be they take it for granted, but people who lived in a war raged countries know what it means.
2. The second most important thing " up to K12" education is provided by the goverment - I'm not interested the privite schools, but the majority of the people are educated by the public schools. Can a privite system do it, sure. But you would have a country that has few people who can write and majority who are illiterate. Thanks to the wonderfull public education, the literary system the U.S is among the highest of the developing countries.
People should appriciate what they have, but the majority seems like they have been brainwashed for so long that they can not understand what is good or bad for them.
First of all I am speaking from the side line, so should be most Somalis and I am not speaking for you. Having said that, I always keep in my mind as a Somali that I have to appreciate law and order.
America can be considred illiterate for its standard.
But why is evryone avoiding the ability that this country has to help its poor?