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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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war isses are serious...bahalada dagta dalooshta but as the most feared somali tribe is stretching it bit too far....somalis dnt realy fear each other.
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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DjibSomali,

Maxa ka rabta Moguul, nin ayeeydiis tahay Xabash :down: Majeerten waxa dhaley Islaan Xabash :down:
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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Here is that book
http://books.google.nl/books?id=b3xUnKM ... q=&f=false

but i seem not to find page 80
page 81 bu u boodaya marki ba
check it out
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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RuralMan08 wrote:Whenever the colonialists talk about Somali tribes, they always have to mention the Issa. Simply because they were extremely powerful and terrified all who lived near them. This is just a little bit of information by colonialists regarding the Issa:

"The Ísa, probably the most powerful branch of the Somali nation, extends northwards to the Wayma family of the Dankali and southwards to the Gudabirsi...In character, the Ísa are childish and docile, cunning, and deficient in judgment, kind and fickle, good-humoured and irascible, warm-hearted, and infamous for cruelty and treachery. Even the protector will slay his protégé, and citizens married to girls send their wives to buy goats and sheep from, but will not trust themselves amongst, their connexions... A fierce and turbulent race of republicans, the Ísa own nominal allegiance to a Ugaz or chief residing in the Hadagali hills. He is generally called "Roblay"--Prince Rainy,--the name or rather title being one of good omen, for a drought here, like a dinner in Europe, justifies the change of a dynasty. Every kraal has its Oddai (shaikh or head man,) after whose name the settlement, as in Sindh and other pastoral lands, is called." (Richard Burton).

"The six above-named are the tribes with which the British authorities have most directly to deal. Of these the most capable in war is probably the Esa. The Gadabursi and
Habr Awal fear them, and it is only because the former are mounted and the latter have no horses that the balance of power is maintained." (Major H. G. C. S WAYNE, R.E.)

"The Gudabirsi will seldom sell their horses, the great safeguard against their enemy tribes, the Ísa and Girhi, who are all infantry". (Richard Burton).

"The Gadabursi are the traditional enemies of their neighbours, the Esa, but are less warlike." (Major H. G. C. S WAYNE, R.E.)

The Issas are said to have destroyed many of their enemies in war. The Afar or Danakil were plunged and looted, the Oromos in Ethiopia were completely routed and they crushed the Gadabursi cavalry in the great battle of Guerrisa, near the border of djibouti in the 18th century.

There is a silent war on the Afars: "Well planned military attack by contraband-led Issa-Somalis took place in Mille and Adaytu villages of the Afar Region which are situated some 530 km from the capital Addis Ababa between June 10 and June 12, 2008. The first attack was on health team from regional health bureau who was on vaccination campaign mission to Leedi Kebele, where two government employees were massacred cold-blooded and their vehicle was confiscated. The next raid occurred the same day in an attempt to invade the village of Adaytu, where 30 civilians were massacred and 26 wounded. More killing was also reported by the Ethiopian government army that attacked the Afars who were gathered to collect their dead. The Afar pastoralists are reported to be victims of current drought, systematic invasion policy of Issa -Somalis as well as irresponsible government army massacre."(Human Rights Watch).


Sources:

http://www.dominiopublico.gov.br/downlo ... 006886.pdf

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu3192401 ... 9_djvu.txt

http://www.somalicongress.org/article1441.html
Holy shit :!:

Did you just qoute Burton :shock:
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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^ garaman a white man is probably the closest thing we would get an objective person in our war history and feuds :lol: :lol:

I agree Ciisa has a record of being very thought and they are not small!

probably on the same size as several major Somali clans such as Marehan , Xawaadle etc

I read somewhere they slayed Ayal Axmed sub clan of Sacad Muuse near xeebta recorded by Burton back then
This little blood thirsty clan would have destroyed Isaaq had they been a little bigger :lol: :lol:

Samaroon have no real interest for war, they are a proud civilised people who only fight for defence.
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Some parts of Sheikh yusuf al kaynun , And the killing of Muhammad al xanif. or bucur bacayr

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Sheikh yusuf al kaynun rathilahu canhu is buired in awr barkhadle 35 km west of hargeisa.
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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Digdahab wrote:^ garaman a white man is probably the closest thing we would get an objective person in our war history and feuds :lol: :lol:

I agree Ciisa has a record of being very thought and they are not small!

probably on the same size as several major Somali clans such as Marehan , Xawaadle etc

I read somewhere they slayed Ayal Axmed sub clan of Sacad Muuse near xeebta recorded by Burton back then
This little blood thirsty clan would have destroyed Isaaq had they been a little bigger :lol: :lol:
Samaroon have no real interest for war, they are a proud civilised people who only fight for defence.
you are not serious....you mean if they were same size as the og's and dhuloz :?:
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:DjibSomali,

Maxa ka rabta Moguul, nin ayeeydiis tahay Xabash :down: Majeerten waxa dhaley Islaan Xabash :down:
abdi hutu,

We are talking about nasab Somali history at the moment, you need to wait till we get into midgo and bantu history :up:
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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mOguul,

Nasab & Majeerten don't go together. No wonder Odeey Harti (AUN) suspected your ancestor was not one of his sons :D
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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Digdahab i agree with your first part, The book he wrote though on The first footsteps in East Africa in my deep opinion was nothing more than a informative instruction manual how to invade that area.
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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:dj: dawladCise wa qaran jira :up:
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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A/W,

The Harti family is well documented in the somali oral culture and in the books of the colonialist. But you, Sacad are the ones with an unknown history. One day you claim to be Ogaden, the next day to be Hiraab, and the following day to be Irir.

You probably cant even abtirsi back more then 4 names.
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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Why must we always insult eachother saying this person waa midgo or that person. Istaqfirullah

Horta I believe that Ciisuhu, had they been larger would have easily devoured all the other clans including Darood easily. Darood are not a fighting people, its their numbers that do the talking laakin Ciisuhu are small laaakin very deadly in war.
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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The_Emperior5 wrote:
GENERAL_SNM wrote:gudabersi iyo isse wa midgo. Wa mixture of small unrelated tribes united by fear.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ciisuhu they have a weird dhaqan that hadu nin naag soo doonayo guriga uu inanta ka doonayo ayey guriga hortiisa ku xaara then the family knows gabadh ba laga doonaye its not a joke wa wax dhab ah u jirta :lol:

Gudabuursiga na never mind :lol:
Your just insulting the Ciise for no reason sxb
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Re: The most feared Somali tribe in history

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Digdahab wrote:^ garaman a white man is probably the closest thing we would get an objective person in our war history and feuds :lol: :lol:

I agree Ciisa has a record of being very thought and they are not small!

probably on the same size as several major Somali clans such as Marehan , Xawaadle etc

I read somewhere they slayed Ayal Axmed sub clan of Sacad Muuse near xeebta recorded by Burton back then
This little blood thirsty clan would have destroyed Isaaq had they been a little bigger :lol: :lol:

Samaroon have no real interest for war, they are a proud civilised people who only fight for defence.
Not really sxb have you read the Gadabursi-Issa wars in medieval times. It would make great bedtime stories. The Gudabuursi were actually very tough and wild back in the day. They only became civilized now. :up:
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