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Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:10 pm
by Siciid85
Emperior,
langaabniimada iska dhaaf sxb and get your own history, hogaagane , darood ku xaar, dayax weraar all those battles was masterminded by H.Y & C.G and it's part of our history and everybody knows enough said.
or Admit it Garhajis History = Isaaq History than i will let you hide behind it. 
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:14 pm
by hargaysaay
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:16 pm
by Siciid85
hargaysaay, the funny thing is a habar awal claiming they had a part in the hogaagane battle, is like a french saying they had a big part of the world war 2 and claiming the english success over the germans as theirs. 
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:18 pm
by The_Emperior5
Siciid85 wrote:Emperior,
langaabniimada iska dhaaf sxb and get your own history, hogaagane , darood ku xaar, dayax weraar all those battles was masterminded by H.Y & C.G and it's part of our history and everybody knows enough said.
or Admit it Garhajis History = Isaaq History than i will let you hide behind it. 
Local camel raiding darood ku xaar and dayax weerar yeah i can say they are garxajis history but hagoogane , you can not say that my friend hagoogane is isaaq history.
Its like saying When silanyo announced we are going to battle in 1988 and he prepaired the battle 31 may hargeysa la galay , do you think it was habarjeclo history no its not it was isaaq history the same way , caynabo markay habarjeclo qaadeen its habarjeclo history but 1988 was not habarjeclo history wa isaaq.
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:18 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
HJ gained the most from the anti-dervish struggle you guys are counting camels our victory is measured on land occupied. Reer Dahir sit in Balidhiig and Solomodow in Qurilgud. We are still on a mission while others have given up.
Siciid and Hargsaay miskiin baad tihin, what do you know about the undefeated qabils of the east. To you guys the miskiin gadhwyen are gods to us just pretenders minor challenges.

Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:19 pm
by The_Emperior5
Siciid85 wrote:hargaysaay, the funny thing is a habar awal claiming they had a part in the hogaagane battle, is like a french saying they had a big part of the world war 2 and claiming the english success over the germans as theirs. 
actually my sultan sultan diriye the grand father of suldan xassan was involved in the hagoogane battle.

Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:20 pm
by Siciid85
loool emperior wa ka sii daraysa i already told you the rest of footsoldiers were irrevelant like cali geri, all that mattered the most were Ina Garre & Haji Waraabe since they were the masterminds behind the operation and they required soldiers mainly from their clan( C.H & H.Y) the rest had a minority part in it, that is the reality son. 
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:20 pm
by Siciid85
D/P
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:24 pm
by Siciid85
GENERAL_SNM, H.Y gained double the size of land in Hawdka & Eastern Somaliland so if it comes to land the 1's who took most lands from the darood are non other then H.Y & C.G, we know the only clans Ina maxamed abdalle the dervish leader feared was non other then H.Y always praising them in poems and sending letters.
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:28 pm
by The_Emperior5
Siciid85 wrote:loool emperior wa ka sii daraysa i already told you the rest of footsoldiers were irrevelant like cali geri, all that mattered the most were Ina Garre & Haji Waraabe since they were the masterminds behind the operation and they required soldiers mainly from their clan( C.H & H.Y) the rest had a minority part in it, that is the reality son. 
sxb i made my point These were moverments and they had leaders Military commanders , you can call them irrelavant but with out them there was no battle of hagoonne, if there were no diifferent guutooyin talliyaal fara badan, adigu ina igare uun baad arkeyse , you dont see the whole picture , aan ku fahansiyo bush so kumu duulin iraq, so mu qabsan do you think all the generals he talks to are irrelevent i dont think so , Do you think even in the dervish camp xaji sudi and iebrahin boqhol and ina shxiiri were irrelevent , because maxamamd cabdulla xassan was its leaders, i dont think so sabbab shaqadey qabban jirtay ba ka weyn
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:33 pm
by Siciid85
And what is your point that Hj took a major part of it or habar awal ?
who are we kidding we know majority of the soldiers were Ina Garre's Musa Arreh sub clan especially from Duruksi areas that is the 1's he mostly required and some Cidagalles + Reer Sugalle sub clan of Haji Waraabe, not to mention both of the leaders were H.Y , it's clear the rest are irrevelant sxb so they won't be counted on hagoogane even the Cali Geri's who carried the water for us we don't count them most of the time wayo the people who masterminded and were doing most of the fighting were the Reer Sugalle & Musa Arreh sub clans of Haji Waraabe & Musa Garre, no matter how you try to scream and inject yourself into hagoogane it won't happen.
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:38 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
Siciid85 wrote:GENERAL_SNM, H.Y gained double the size of land in Hawdka & Eastern Somaliland so if it comes to land the 1's who took most lands from the darood are non other then H.Y & C.G, we know the only clans Ina maxamed abdalle the dervish leader feared was non other then H.Y always praising them in poems and sending letters.
The difference between HY and HJ is that we play for keeps. You tell me if you still own Danood or dallo? We still own Caynaba/Garadag/Balidhiig, which we named after the blood of the dervish.
Siciid, emperor's point is that HJ at that time were a powerhouse in that region, nothing could be done without HJ support. The closest Isaaq's to the Dervish were HJ and some HY. What the fock is cidagalle doing in Buhoodle?

Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:41 pm
by The_Emperior5
Siciid85 wrote:And what is your point that Hj took a major part of it or habar awal ?
who are we kidding we know majority of the soldiers were Ina Garre's Musa Arreh sub clan especially from Duruksi areas that is the 1's he mostly required and some Cidagalles + Reer Sugalle sub clan of Haji Waraabe, not to mention both of the leaders were H.Y , it's clear the rest are irrevelant sxb so they won't be counted on hagoogane even the Cali Geri's who carried the water for us we don't count them most of the time wayo the people who masterminded and were doing most of the fighting were the Reer Sugalle & Musa Arreh sub clans of Haji Waraabe & Musa Garre, no matter how you try to scream and inject yourself into hagoogane it won't happen.
wax cusub maad sheegin nowt try again with out all that faan. u said the leaders were habaryoonis ofcours they were aniga ba ta ku qirsan . but the operation was not done by habaryoonis only or ciidagalle it was done by all the clans that were involved that you dont seem to understand , Muse care should of fought if you say it wa muse care that defeated the dervishes when the dervishes attacked the muse care why dident they defeat it, if we have to follow your logic. or when the dervishes attacked ciidagalle and habaryoonis at dayax weerar and they took 4000 camels , why dident habaryoonis and ciidagalle defeat the dervishes waxasi wa qalbi caruur sxb

, you can tell your self hagoogane in the mirror and say hagoogane was habaryoonis or ciidagalle guul. But it wont change the reality on the ground, indha adayga iska daa re read gamuutes gabay oo la tiriye 1921 at the forts of taleex
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:42 pm
by Siciid85
GeneralSNM here is some facts for you.
Fact H.Y took Oog from dhullos
Daroor from Ogaden
Gaashaamo from Ogaden again
Northern Awaare from Ogaden again
Northern Danood from Ogaden again
Ceerigaabo took over it fully from Dhullos & Wasakhgalis and control it present day since - 1990's walking history deeh
Etc i could go and on of the countless land we took from the daroods and your talking about three places.
Re: Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:46 pm
by Siciid85
Emperior, what matters is Habar awal were irrevelant in hogaagane battles infact they were irrevelant in most battles with the dervish, now adiga igu qasbay inaan ruunta ku sheego i didn't want to hurt your feelings "huuno". 