NSUM emerge with SSC

[S-D-M]

Gurey

All your points are invalid and bias, you have long been a champion of the seccssionst agression in the eastern regions. For one second acknowledge the reality on the ground. No one buys the false argument which tries to justify your aggression. We are not the ones claiming your regions and tuulos, you are. Sure you live in Sanaag and Sool, that doesn't justify sending your troops to dhubahante degaans and pointing your weapons towards the east. As long as you are the aggressor accept the grievances. No one buys the argument "We are against your rights cause we fear that you might attack us in revenge". If you want peace, dulmiga aad tageerysid iska dhaaf. You sound worse then the Isrealis to be honest, wax nin somali ku haadlo ma ahaan.

When a soliders from Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera dies fighting in Kalshaale, Megaagle, WidhWidh and Hagoogane we all know where the obstacle to peace lies. Somaliland claims Dhulbahante territory and that is the problem. Somaliland is the aggressor, and somaliland is the one sending troops to other regions. When that stops we will have peace in our regions.

You are right i am a champion for a more agressive stance by somaliland....

but you are all making things too complicated when it is very very simple.

Somaliland will be independant from moqadishu by any means necessary, using the borders of British somaliland is the most effective vehicle to get to that goal,as our legal case will be stronger than south sudan, and eritrea and even kosovo..

but what you do not understand is that the borders of British Somaliland are just a vehicle,
if you can provide us when an alternative vehicle that will keep us independant, i am sure we will agree..

the problem is that Somaliweyn proponents believe they can rule isaaq by force.

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Dhulbahante needs to start with their traitors........It wouldn't be possible for outside to come to your territory if you guys didn't have too many cada qatayaal. Deal with these fuckers first.

[1nemansquad]

they will be dealt with god willing.

[abdikarim86]

I don't understand what is so controversial about what gurey said?

He is saying most reer waqooyi don't care for Sool and Eastern Sanaag
and if we can still get indepencance without Sool and Eastern sanaag no one
from amongst us will complain.

Is that such a bad idea?

[gurey25]

I don't understand what is so controversial about what gurey said?

He is saying most reer waqooyi don't care for Sool and Eastern Sanaag
and if we can still get indepencance without Sool and Eastern sanaag no one
from amongst us will complain.

Is that such a bad idea?

see what i mean, no one has responded to my point?
why because for some of the dhulo posters, it maybe an internal matter, but for those cheerleading them, it simply seen as an oppurtunity to attack isaaq, out of xaasidnimo..


imansquad

tell me what was jewish about my post?

[Blue_609]

this is great. its about time beesha unites and look for some common ground to work on and forget the differences cuz thats what the enemy wants.
sool sanag has no relation to SL since 1- ppl dont want to be part of it 2- SL did nothing for those regions they just claim it to maintain thei 1960 borders and perhaps have a solid case for their recognition. same thing goes for awdal.

[Babygirl-]

ULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULU

LOOOOL how are we xasiiid we are not calling for your destruction but for you to stay in your land! which you are not doing.. but you are preaching to us like we are the agressors! loool we don't want your land, we are part of Somalia and you can go were ever you want ciid idi qasbasa uma jeedi..

[new-york24]

Finally waa la is afgartay,i say dont ever look back
Wheres garam-garam i didnt see him on there,one of the best somali speakers of all time

garam garam is on a af somali learning course in Kismayo niyahow but yeh the differences were ironed out by meeting half through,NSUM will get to have a positions in the hogaan temporary until a further all beesha congress is conducted bk home in few more months.where more consensus,mechanism for accountability,good governance will be reached and even possibly reshuffle the whole mamul.this is prolly the first all-inclusive,self reflection,heavy weight meeting the beesha have in about a decade.so it should be a good start inshallah.

This is great sxb you been devided for far too long,for a second there i thought we were gonna have to go on the offensive this time and kick of guba 2 Where will the next meeting take place?
Garam waa geesi ninyahow,i remember a reporter asking him what he was doing up north,wuxuu yiri "dhulkaan dhulbhantaa iska leh nooh,aniga waa difacanaa nooh"

[Voltage]

Guul SSC Alhamdullilah a productive and successful conference




Voltage this is an interesting point the secessionist extreme loves to ignore, it was put eloquently by Jamac Qalib

"Conclusion of Treaties of Protection that Britain had entered into with elders representing various Somali tribes or clans during 1884-86 were the basis of the north’s colonial history for the following seventy-six years. A lone, but important, non-signatory of those treaties of protection was the Dolbahante. The subsequent de facto association of this group and their homeland within the British Somaliland Protectorate administration was only by default and mutual expediency, but never a de jure. However, since the essence of the north’s independence in 1960 was only perceived as a transitory process to the reunification with the south, it was non-controversial. If otherwise, however, the then new State of Somaliland could not have inherited the Dolbahante homeland without the latter’s consent, and would not even now, had that issue not already been resolved by the reunification process. Because that independence would only be for the signatories of those treaties of protection, but the Dolbahabte that was not a party to those treat could only join it by own consent."

Faithfully,
Jama Mohamed Ghalib

I didn't even know of this. I was under the impression Dhulbahante did sign treaties with the British. Imagine, the whole point of post-colonial "independence" was to be free from colonial rule and influence, and now some expect you to forcefully abide by it. The irony kills me

[Voltage]

Actually Gurey, your friends in Sland section can tell you I am in favor of self-determination for Hargeisa-Berbera-Burco people. If that self-determination is secession, so be it. However, never will I support you to usurp the right of people who never agreed to British rule or a British colony or neither now agree to separating from Somalia. Self-determination is either universal or it doesn't exist in the Republic of Somalia's clans and territories.

[Siciid85]

sool sanag has no relation to SL since 1- ppl dont want to be part of it 2- SL did nothing for those regions they just claim it to maintain thei 1960 borders and perhaps have a solid case for their recognition.

Are you trying to deny my people's existence in those regions? well tough luck. We live there , have great influence and there is nothing you or your likes can do about it expect delusional talks in cyber.

[Babygirl-]

Saciid you live in couple of vilages in Sool you can take them, you can have your share in sanaag... nobody is saying you can't have them why are you acting like a victim here? loool cajiib

[Siciid85]

Where am i acting a victim? i just simply pointed out to the gadabursi from awdal(as he claims) trying to deny other people's existence in the said regions in cyber won't do much since in reality on the ground we have much influence and say in what goes on in those regions and it's future.

[Babygirl-]

You & your ppl have much influence but the people of those regions have no influence over their destiny and future.

[Siciid85]

I believe all the natives of those two regions have a say in their land's future.

[Babygirl-]

There is a tribal border stay on your side, if not what ever happens is your responsibilty..