Original Dervish

[Mr_Alfaas]

Puntland has nothing to offer for dhulbahante ppl....


its rer sool's responsibility to held shir loo dhanyahay aayahooda mustaqbal kana haka tashadan


no body is there to help u out unless u do ur sel,every one is busy with his own affairs marka waxba ha sugina thats my advice to u guys

[udun]

Cumar-Labasuul


Sure they can, but thats not the case. The Puntland of 1998 does not exist today, Puntland admin is not interested in the SSC regions and the direction pursued by our elders. So its time for us to take responsibility of our own region.

The Garaad of ur subclan, the garaad of Samadoon´s subclan and the Garaad of Babygirls subclan all support Puntland

Good point !!!

[Babygirl-]

we shouldn't hold PL responsible if you do you hate a certain Qabil, You shouldn't talk about Danaha Dhulbahante if you do you hate PL...

That shit aint gonna work Dhulbahante Affairs Gacaan Baa laagu so qabaan & Dhulbahante Affairs seey PL maanta katahay hanaga ahaato.. tolka saas beey ku kala badbadaayan..

[The_Emperior5]

dp

[Based]

All clans should have the right of self determination.

It seems to me (my opinion) that the majority of Dhulbahante want nothing to do with either Somaliland or Puntland.

Why must their destiny be tied forcibly to two administrations that do not have Dhulbahante's interests at heart?

One occupies L.A. by use of a house nigger militia, while the other has simply accepted defeat and refused to fight for land that supposedly is a part of their administration.

And to the guy above me, seeing as you admit Somaliland's illegal occupation of SSC, how do you reconcile that with Somaliland's claim of secession based on the right of self determination, or is it a case of do as I say and not as I do?

[Executive]

Cumar-Labasuul


Sure they can, but thats not the case. The Puntland of 1998 does not exist today, Puntland admin is not interested in the SSC regions and the direction pursued by our elders. So its time for us to take responsibility of our own region.

The Garaad of ur subclan, the garaad of Samadoon´s subclan and the Garaad of Babygirls subclan all support Puntland

Good point !!!

Thats my Garaad and my 2nd cousin. Founder of SSC

[abdalla11]

Cumar-Labasuul


Sure they can, but thats not the case. The Puntland of 1998 does not exist today, Puntland admin is not interested in the SSC regions and the direction pursued by our elders. So its time for us to take responsibility of our own region.

The Garaad of ur subclan, the garaad of Samadoon´s subclan and the Garaad of Babygirls subclan all support Puntland

He also founded SSC. .You could also argue that he supports Somaliland or that Siilaanyo is pro-somaliweyn. He is my 2nd cousin so wax iga sheegi kartid, you don't really know who he supports.
http://www.google.com/m/search?site=ima ... &sa=N#i=12

When did he support SL?

Don't you remember his statement in 2010 when the relationship between PL leadership and SSC leadership were very bad? sotuu yiri 'anaga PL baan ka tirsanahay' and 'waligeyn PL baanu ahayn'. He might have meetings with SSC leaders or even line up a photo with them but he never ever stated to be part of SSC.

[Executive]

Again, you are just a little puntland fanatic living in Holland, you don't know what you are talking about.

[abdalla11]

Easy there tiger, no need to use strong lingo.

The document you posted is about liberating SSC and uniting the SSC people( they even mention PL in point 8). He doesn't oppose PL. The nairobi shir was held in 2009, it wasnt about making a maamul goboleed

Here's his audio interview with BBC saying that they were always Puntlanders. The interview took place in november 2010

http://www.zshare.net/audio/8229721291d97329/

[EastAfrica]

Sure they can, but thats not the case. The Puntland of 1998 does not exist today, Puntland admin is not interested in the SSC regions and the direction pursued by our elders. So its time for us to take responsibility of our own region.

I agree with you the Puntland of 1998 does not exist now, today the vast majority of SSC People support their own SSC State of Somalia.

[udun]

as the official Dhulos issim on Snet,I have few questions for you,interview baan kula leeyahay
I see u have been on Snet for a while so what are your political views?
are you a patriot (like everyone else) or another Udun?
Dhulos yaad ka tahay or are you a sheegato?
is there anyone here that knows u and can vouch for ur Dhulbahantenimo?
these questions and others are meant to determine ur eligability in becoming a member in the Dhulbahante private room.

Suldaan Samadoon

Yes I have been on snet for some time now, although I have remained inactive for years. The shame, humiliation and embarrassment became to much to bear.
My views have remained consistent with my political philosophy and beliefs down the years. I was advocating for a single autonomous province encompassing our regions as far back as 10 years ago.It was my opinion that economic progress would not be achieved until we have the locally based policy initiatives, and the institutions to implement them.

That was a long time ago, far to much water has passed under the bridge now. We are under military occupation,a large percentage of the population has fled, economic stagnation and poverty is widespread, quite simply we are in utter disarray.This lamentable situation we find ourselves in was totally self inflicted, from start to finish.

I am still very sympathetic to the idea of local control over decision making and appointing/electing local officials, but only in the context of most other marginalised regions eg sanaag, mudug, parts of bari and provinces in the south.
I am totally against tribal based politics, especially the kind espoused by the "johnny come lately`s" of the ssc. As far as I can make out they have no political policy, mandate, institution or idea for that matter.If one were to examine the majority of ssc literature, one would be forgiven for thinking "ssc" was some sort of dance hall/bashment promotions company.

As for having somebody to vouch for me, let me tell you something. I always vouch for myself, by my achievements, conduct and standing among friend and foe alike.

waa gartay,so u r a ba'ayeeste of the excellent grade and to add salt to the injury u claim that u havent logged in out of shame and embarassment,that defeatest mentality alone disqualafies u inaad nin dhulbahante ah aad dhabarkiisa ka timid.u abviously dont have the basic pschycological requirement it takes to be a D-block,which is to be proud.taas meel dhig.now one thing that is abvious:ur knowledge about ssc is surprisingly weak and superficial so its safe to assume that u have no insider news feed about dhulos affairs at all;thats the first sign of a sheegato to learn things about the qabiil they claiming only through websites.now my other question is:how do u reconcile ur self contradictory of views of supporting local grass roots administration while bashing the very patform that is working on delivering it(ssc) and calling us fanatics.u cant have ur pie and eat it.do u?

You're calling the party throwing group a grass roots organization? Where does it exist?

Gras roots ku lahaa Waar kuwaan afkooda iyo dhegahoodu ismaba maqlaan. Waxay ila tahay racketkii yaraa ee islaamaha xoogaaga guntiga ugu jira lagaga urursan jirey baa dhamaaday, dabadeedna kuwani dadkay xagxagayaan

Waxaan maqli jirey ileyn af aadan lahayn ma qabatid, kuwani meel walba xagxagashay la taagan yihiin

[EastAfrica]

Dhulos try your best to avoid that section u have been warned.

Thank you for the advice sister, meel Dhulbahante lagu caayo maxaa na dhigay.

[udun]

The Garaad of ur subclan, the garaad of Samadoon´s subclan and the Garaad of Babygirls subclan all support Puntland

Good point !!!

Thats my Garaad and my 2nd cousin. Founder of SSC

Garaad Abshir never signed on to the so-called fake SSC maamul; he has made that clear in many events. Even when the meeting was held in Buurowadal, he rejected it. But of course, people can invent stories in cyberspace.

[EastAfrica]

All clans should have the right of self determination.

It seems to me (my opinion) that the majority of Dhulbahante want nothing to do with either Somaliland or Puntland.

Why must their destiny be tied forcibly to two administrations that do not have Dhulbahante's interests at heart?

One occupies L.A. by use of a house nigger militia, while the other has simply accepted defeat and refused to fight for land that supposedly is a part of their administration.

And to the guy above me, seeing as you admit Somaliland's illegal occupation of SSC, how do you reconcile that with Somaliland's claim of secession based on the right of self determination, or is it a case of do as I say and not as I do?

Well said Mr. Base,
Majority of SSC People want to have their own SSC Regional State of Somalia [Dowlad Gobaleedka SSC]. SSC People want to have freedom and self-determination like Somaliland Clan and Puntland Subclan

[The_Emperior5]

Cumarlabasuul you are asking the wrong questions you are seeing this from A Somaliland perspective which is totally wrong, the Puntland of 1998 was designed in the form of the old Majeerteeniya Sultanate of boqor Cisman and Suldan Ali Yusef keenadid in the late 1900s.The Whole purpose was to defend the Majeerteen interest in those regions the exact model was used when creating the new puntland admin in 1998, Its practically impossible for others to become signification in the in the leadership for instance the majeerteen hold 31 seats in the parliament the dholbahante 17 the Warsangali 9 leelkase 4 they don't hold any parliamentary elections now is this bad not really its working for puntland they keep their interest in the south in check the only problem is other Clans feel a bit marginalized and that's not a surprise but is it the end of the world its not. Maxamad cabdi xaashi did not finish his term because of this state model of Puntland so its impossible for Dholbahante to share a state with their Cousins in Puntland unless Puntland opens up the system and allows every one to partake in the Political leadership of the region even abdilahi Yusuf some people think he was honest in his harti card when he used it but on the contrary for him it was only to go to Mogadisho even though he helped build Puntland but that's not where it ended for him. Some even say Adde Muse when he was President wanted to take revenge on the Dholbahante because they supported Abdilahi yusuf against Cadde Muusa and that's why he was playing theater when he was wearing a Military uniform back in 2007, thats where the whole self determination and ssc comes from so its very hard for them to share a state with their Cousins.