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Subhanallah what is wrong with us muslim ppl none of us use the shariah law, wallahi the only way the somalia can be one is by using the QURAN and DEEN and SHARIA LAW not ALSHABAB LAW, how can they say no shariah subhaallah

Ismail_Boss wrote:Subhanallah what is wrong with us muslim ppl none of us use the shariah law, wallahi the only way the somalia can be one is by using the QURAN and DEEN and SHARIA LAW not ALSHABAB LAW, how can they say no shariah subhaallah

Its Jahaliya man, people nowadays speak without being informed about what their speaking on. Everyone just goes on the propaganda they hear in the news, without researching facts themselves.

Ismail_Boss wrote:Subhanallah what is wrong with us muslim ppl none of us use the shariah law, wallahi the only way the somalia can be one is by using the QURAN and DEEN and SHARIA LAW not ALSHABAB LAW, how can they say no shariah subhaallah

Al Shabab is using shariah law. They do not claim to govern by “al shabab law”, but by laws laid down by God written in stone and anyone who disagrees with these laws laid down by God and written in stone as interpreted by Al Shabab is summarily excommunicated and executed. Are you unable to recognize the inherent danger in allowing men (or in this case boys) to govern using divine authority?

Maxamad87 wrote:

Ismail_Boss wrote:Subhanallah what is wrong with us muslim ppl none of us use the shariah law, wallahi the only way the somalia can be one is by using the QURAN and DEEN and SHARIA LAW not ALSHABAB LAW, how can they say no shariah subhaallah

Its Jahaliya man, people nowadays speak without being informed about what their speaking on. Everyone just goes on the propaganda they hear in the news, without researching facts themselves.

The fact is that shariah law has proven to be a catastrophic failure in every attempt to implement it in the modern era. Perhaps it is you who needs to do the research instead of blindly promoting a system of law which I bet you have had zero experience with your entire existence.

Maxamad87 wrote:

ultratribalism wrote:Sharia should be implemented ONLY by the ulema and no other group can claim to force sharia on people for their own political needs.Sharia implemented by alshabab kufr group is unacceptable because shabab need first to Re-enter islam and declare their islanimo on a public arena.

Alshabab are a farce, absolute frauds that are putting up a front financed by the enemy.

Don't speak ill of the mujhids!!! They are struggling to implement the shariah. We must blindly support them!!

*goes back to eating food stamp porridge

Union stop hiding behind al-shabaab or other groups, simple question 'do u believe man's laws is better and more fitted in todays era or any other era than Allah's laws?' No essays plz just a yes or no?

XaliimoFarax wrote:Union stop hiding behind al-shabaab or other groups, simple question 'do u believe man's laws is better and more fitted in todays era or any other era than Allah's laws?' No essays plz just a yes or no?

Why should I stop using Al Shabab and the Taliban and other groups that prove my point that shariah is dangerous and cannot be implemented in a modern society? If they weren’t such blood sucking, mass murdering lunatics I’m sure you’d be praising them and using them in your argument in favor of shariah. Can you show me one case in the modern era where shariah has been implemented successfully? No you can’t, because it simply hasn’t worked. Everywhere it’s been established it has resulted in misuse and abuse, polarization, and the creation of more problems than it has solved. Luckily the world has escaped the scourge of religious law and has adopted secular laws that don’t claim to be inconvertible but have worked just fine nonetheless. Only the most backward and ignorant of the world’s people reject the usefulness and superiority of secular law.

i dont think people are against shari'a specially if they are muslims! just simply do not have good experience with the people who scream for shari'a . they dont trust them for good reasons. !!

Its funny how Union Always tries to make the connection between Sharia and Alshabaab, alshabaab is a Militant group they are not Sharia to be honest they do not even represent Sharia or The muslims , The Sharia law is the law of the Almighty All Muslim or the believes should strive to follow the Sharia the State religion of The Muslims should be sharia its wrong to associate Sharia with Alshabaab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecelle

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/311566/kanun

Ottoman civil law continued the Byzantine code, that is, it was Roman. Only family law ( and only for Muslims) was governed by pure Shariah. Over time, the two legal systems became confused. Shariah, by itself, has never been codified. Under the Ottomans, Christians and Jews were subject to the code, but were admitted in court as witnesses, etc.

Most analyses of Shariah I have read say it is a statement of how a legal system should work, but is not, itself, such a system. I'm not a lawyer, but suspect the Ottomans were onto something. Perhaps you should take another look at the Kanun, or Mecelle Code.

union wrote: Why should I stop using Al Shabab and the Taliban and other groups that prove my point that shariah is dangerous and cannot be implemented in a modern society? If they weren’t such blood sucking, mass murdering lunatics I’m sure you’d be praising them and using them in your argument in favor of shariah. Can you show me one case in the modern era where shariah has been implemented successfully? No you can’t, because it simply hasn’t worked. Everywhere it’s been established it has resulted in misuse and abuse, polarization, and the creation of more problems than it has solved. Luckily the world has escaped the scourge of religious law and has adopted secular laws that don’t claim to be inconvertible but have worked just fine nonetheless. Only the most backward and ignorant of the world’s people reject the usefulness and superiority of secular law.

So from what I gathered u r undermining Allah’s infinite knowledge? He could not possibly know what will happen a mere 1400 years after his last message to mankind? This is a fundamental aspect of tawheed and it is no good challenging Allah’s attributes (he has infinite knowledge) for human desires, I suggest you do research on tawheed and basic Islam.

If u want a good example of a time where sharia law was present and how it worked then look no further than 1400 years ago the reason WHY it worked was cos people ACTUALLY FOLLOWED it and knew what it entails rather than these military groups using the deen for their own self-interest. U r a supporter of the TFG if I am not mistaken and it was only yesterday the president was a supporter of these kind of groups al-shabaab. He was against the government of the day but as soon as he was given the seat what did he do? Sharia law?



Ps is grant somali?

Grant is Cadaan.with a Mormon religious background.

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Efforts to codify Shariah remain ineffectual :

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2008 ... a-law.html

The best they can, or want, to do in Indonesia involves individual laws imposed on a regional basis.

Seriously, check out the Kanun used by the Ottoman Caliphs. It was Roman law because Shariah has yet to be codified. The author of the Indonesian article doesn't even believe it is possible.

Grant wrote:Grant is Cadaan.with a Mormon religious background.

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Efforts to codify Shariah remain ineffectual :

Haye
1966 that would make u at least 50
U know there is somali site that caters for ur age group its called 'Somaliaonline' u should check it out hella boring thu

ufff. You too Coeus?

Whyyy are all the nationalists on this forum anti-islamic? Am I the only guy in the middle who wants a peaceful somalia with a strong government but without losing our islamic identity?

Western jurisprudence owes the canon (Qaynuun) of common law to Islam
And in paticular to Shafi'i Risala: Treatise on the Foundations of Islamic Jurisprudence
Now here they are telling us Islamic law cannot be applied this day and age
Subhannallah