chiefcaaqil why do you support the kenyan invasion

[KingMJ]

My dream of Kenyan suzerainty is coming true.

Imagine four years ago I dreamed of a Kenyan suzereinty over the land. Two years ago in Kenya my dream increased and all those times I felt alone in even Kenyan influence in the land and today Kenyan boots, money, attention, and determination is in Jubbaland from Gedo to the Indian Ocean.

They are getting ready to take the two principal towns in Jubbaland from Shabaab, Kismaayo and Baardheere, and are going to make sure to leave an administration that comes under their patronship. there is a possibility that the dream could even be taken up a notch and federation of Jubbaland with Kenya could even become plausible sometime in the future.

I have never had so much hope in the future. I am in a moment of celebration.

As soon as the effort is included, I shall send all of you one and invite you to tour Naivasha valley from near Nakuru lodgings where we own expanse real estate.

Nay, I do not want a Jubbaland part of Somalia nor independent, a territory federated within the Republic of Kenya is the future bi idni laahi kariim

All this in one thread. Voltage I must say you have come quite the nationalistic Kenya. So I must ask when will you be applying for your Kenyan passport, learning the Kenyan national anthem and waving the Kenyan flag?

[Voltage]

KingMJ, brother I am happy with my American passport. When I say those things, I speak in the capacity as a voice for the people still forced to look forward to Somalia's passport.

[gemini07]

You do protest too much young girl. When I say "Majerten" I am not mentioning civilians who might live in Kismaayo today here and there. I am talking about being a political, military, numerical, etc force anywhere in Kismaayo or the Jubba Valley. "Azania/Jubbaland" will be from the tip of Gedo to the Indian Ocean...in that scheme of things you are like Ciise Darood or Carab Saalax in Puntland. You don't factor in anywhere prominently or even halfheartedly in the discourse. Whether you accept that right now or you don't, that is the reality.

wait, for a second there i thought you were ogaden. pump the breaks on the bravado my friend because you need a reality check. you will always be fighting for second position ( AT BEST) so let's leave it to the people who are running the show to decide who is prominent and who isn't.


how much does it sting that azania, which was created earlier this year, has accomplished more than huraales jubbaland project?

[KingMJ]

KingMJ, brother I am happy with my American passport. When I say those things, I speak in the capacity as a voice for the people still forced to look forward to Somalia's passport.

Ok bro so this dream of yours is all based on wanting a better future for you people back-home. But do you believe this is what they want?

[Voltage]

Good girl,

Whether Ogaden are prominent in the discourse, equal with us, or below us we still acknowledge Ogaden as a one of the two major stakeholders in the creation of a Jubbaland State. Also, the dust isn't settled and there are many turns to go around in the political Ferris wheel but if push comes to shove, the Sade would be advised to play smart and give Azania support fully. In that capacity they can seek their dues in smart/pragmatic tones. After all, even your Osman Mohamoud were driven to the point of waging a failed rebellion, its militia escaping outside of the state of Puntland, its leader Jama Ali Jama being forced to flee on a boat from Boosaaso with Abdullahi Yusuf at its gates ready for war, and later were driven to come crawling back where they enjoyed a good tenure under Adde Muuse.

[Voltage]

Ok bro so this dream of yours is all based on wanting a better future for you people back-home. But do you believe this is what they want?

I don't think most of them have contemplated leaving Somalia union but of course they need visionaries to steer them that way.

[gemini07]

Good girl,

Whether Ogaden are prominent in the discourse, equal with us, or below us we still acknowledge Ogaden as a one of the two major stakeholders in the creation of a Jubbaland State. Also, the dust isn't settled and there are many turns to go around in the political Ferris wheel but if push comes to shove, the Sade would be advised to play smart and give Azania support fully. In that capacity they can seek their dues in smart/pragmatic tones. After all, even your Osman Mohamoud were driven to the point of waging a failed rebellion, its militia escaping outside of the state of Puntland, its leader Jama Ali Jama being forced to flee on a boat from Boosaaso with Abdullahi Yusuf at its gates ready for war, and later were driven to come crawling back where they enjoyed a good tenure under Adde Muuse.

you're like a barista trying to kick me out of starbucks. you're not even the manager of the place booboo so take a seat.

no one needs the acknowledgement of some guy whose parents and ancestors are from mudug/the hawd on issues relating to kismayo. if you have any relatives left there, i'm certain that they are the squatters who currently live in dilapidated government buildings and tin shacks. the city has not expanded much in the past 20 years so where are all the properties your clan owns? i mean, if such a massive population change occurred, there needs to be some development of some sort, right? or now are you going to argue that marehan were 90% of the population before the civil war too? your delusional rants get funnier by the minute walaahi.

oh, how, cute.. you're trying to get me upset. too bad i consider myself i'm a puntlander first and then majerteen. i don't care for subsubclans, much less osman mahamud, so try again with you isku dir tactics. i did, have and always will support abdullahi yusufs actions against that traitor jama ali jama.


accept it, you've been outsmarted by the azanians. you have too much faith in your cross-dressing warlord leader if you think you're coming back from this.

[Voltage]

Forgive me if I say you are irrelevant to me as far as the domestic affairs of the State I would always be one of the two biggest stakeholders.

As for the Kismaayo you talk about, three years ago was the last time a clan battle happened where after the Ethiopians removed the ICU, Abdullahi Yusuf sent the Puntland militia that guarded him in Baidoa there under Afgaduud and made a regiment composed of Ogaden under Koojaar and installed his own pointless administration. We know what happened;

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

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The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-1 ... 79347.html

Please concentrate on that Puntland you love. You have no relevance in the politics of Jubbaland State.

[gemini07]

Forgive me if I say you are irrelevant to me as far as the domestic affairs of the State I would always be one of the two biggest stakeholders.

As for the Kismaayo you talk about, three years ago was the last time a clan battle happened where after the Ethiopians removed the ICU, Abdullahi Yusuf sent the Puntland militia that guarded him in Baidoa there under Afgaduud and made a regiment composed of Ogaden under Koojaar and installed his own pointless administration. We know what happened;

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

...

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-1 ... 79347.html

Please concentrate on that Puntland you love. You have no relevance in the politics of Jubbaland State.

lol @ " I would always be one of the two biggest stakeholders". i'm glad you're slowly starting to see reality and are letting go of this fantasy of marehan running a state from gedo to the indian ocean. you're now admitting that you are not the majority or the sole ruling power. i don't have the time to continue going back and forth with you atm, but i'm proud of you for letting go of your delusional expectations of huraale. now that we've established that you will always be the bridesmaid, at best, in this show i hope you understand why your acknowledgement of my clans presence in the region, or your permission for me to discuss issues relating to azania, is not needed. like i said, you're like a barista trying to kick me out of starbucks. know your role and stay in your lane buddy.

i'm sure they taught you in high school that sources can be used to back just about anything, so let's leave the show-and-tell and your editing skills for the others, kay? cus your copy and paste skills do not impress me & what you quoted has no relevance to the topic at hand.

[Phd in naago kudis]

[Voltage]

Jubbaland State has nothing to do with you. Why about that do you not get? You don't live in one village, not one town and even your small post-civil war presence in Kismaayo has already made itself unworthy to talk about. You are not a political force, a military force, a numerical force, or any kind of force in the land or the town. You can't even claim all of Gaalkacyo right next to you and watch meekly while Somaliland militia is stationed in Tukaraq literally a stone's throw away from Garowe and you have the audacity to talk to anyone about claiming land. Since you are such a big "Puntlander" and don't have anything to do with "sub-clan" and a big "Harti", why aren't you actually devoting more time to rallying Puntland and Harti from the Somalilanders anyway? Why aren't you advocating for Ceerigaabo and Laas Canood major towns designed as part of Puntland in your consitution and why aren't you calling for contingency plans against Galmudug which closes Gaalkacyo airport at will? I have never seen more misplaced priorities from an individual.

If you lived in Kismaayo or Paidmonk's family had a farm in Jamame, so too was I born in Mogadishu and Qansa's family had a farm near in Afmadoow. And? What does that have to do with your clans? Just like an MR can enter those areas through a national framework of citizenship, so too can you only.

Like you I said you...have...nothing...to...do...with...Jubbaland...State...as...a...clan. Cry, wail, calaacal, throw a hissy fit or whatever, you are irrelevant to it. End of story.

[ChiefAaqil]

I am against Al Shabaab and Somali's have proved they cant clear Al Shabaab from Somalia without outside interverence(Ahlu Sunna wa Jamaca with Ethiopian support, Puntland with CIA support, TFG with AMISOM, etc). So why not support the Ogadens and others with Kenyan support.

[SahanGalbeed]

Can you imagine bal. From a mansion and four landcruisers, the big farm in afgoye, to being a butler for a jet black bantu name Jeffery Wantanga

Ina lilah wa ina Ileehi rajicun .

Emperior , anigu goormaan ku idhi ha isku siidaynin ninkaas .

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Can you imagine bal. From a mansion and four landcruisers, the big farm in afgoye, to being a butler for a jet black bantu name Jeffery Wantanga

[Saraxnow]

What is so great about having maids Big deal man.