Which rivalry goes deeper

[whitehartlane]

Totenham v Arsenal
And it's Liverpool v Everton actually mets

Don't insult the red scousers
More like Liverpool v man utd..

[Thuganomics]

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If you know anything about true footballing rivalaries,you'd know that the local derby is the most paramount

[whitehartlane]

Local derbies are surely one of footballs greatest events, however saaxib everton and united are both local for Liverpool team, lakiin united is more successful than everton, therefor a match between Liverpool v united is far bigger than a match with everton...

his is a link of SAF himself confirming my claim
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/133337.html

Long-serving Manchester United player Ryan Giggs claimed that Liverpool against Manchester United is "probably the most famous fixture in English football".[3] This rivalry is one of the most high-profile derbies in the country.


Uniteds greatest rivals are Liverpool and Leeds football club.

Teams based in different cities that see each other as each others rivals for the pride and the throne of the nation
Madrid v barca
Marseile v Paris
Feyenoord v Ajax
Dortmund v schalke

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I dont think the hutu and dooro rivalry goes deep. We did kill each other but never committed genocides(maybe massacre above 5K).
I think the sland and darood rivalry is very deep. Since the day MSB's regime committed genocide against isaaq till now.
Look at the buuhoodle wars, its actually between two closely related families.

If the dooro and hutu rivalry was really dangerous i dont think it would be possible for sacad and mjs to be neighbours, or cayr and ilkoyar. They would be at constant war.


Hg's and abgaal rivalry doesnt exist anymore. We leave each others alone. The civilwar though us that one party cant be stronger than other. For example sh.sharif is now president, do you see hg's picking up weapons? No
Ximaar daahir aweys doesnt represent us. He is a rejected one.



Dooros vs hutus rivalry is mainly political.


Barca vs Real on the other hand is very deadly rivalry

[whitehartlane]

walahi I can't for Somalia to come back... Imagine Habar Gidir football team based in karaan and abgaal one in xamarweyn .... that match would be intense, seriously eye watering...I would come from abroad to watch that game.let alone Xamar, Somalia would come to a standstill.
Or an majeerteen team and a marexaan team based in kismaayo.
If that game is not drawn, we are looking at a possibility of a second civil war.
Egypt has nothing on Somalia
Since the most interesting and intense aspect of the somalida is qabiil i believe Somalia should create a football league based on qabiil degaans

[Rooble90]

The Biggest Somali Clan Rivalries Would Be :

Reer Nuur (Gedobiirsi) vs Jibriil Abokor (Isaaq)

Cumar Maxamuud (mj) vs Sacad (hg)

Wagardhac (mr) vs Saleebaan (hg)

[Khalid Ali]

Hawiye and darood rivalry is mainly political that is true but it most of the time ends up in tribal armed conflict not in the past though this started just in the modern area how ever there were few incidents in the 19 century in the Mudug region and armed conflict between the Darood and the Hawiye. So it can be very deep its strange though that the only city in Somalia darood and hawiye live together is Galkacyo they don't share any other city. They get along fine but there is deep Political rivalry between the two.

Isaaq and darood rivalry goes all the way back to the 17 century the nomadic warfare for land camels and power Much of the classical 'suugaanta poetry of Somalis is based on the armed conflict for land and prestige Modern time there were many conflicts aswell during the 80s in Ethiopia. and Also in Somaliland But the rivalry is disappearing and people get along fine now and days.

Habargedir Abgaal rivalry was in the 90s fighting for power In Mogadishu they get along fine but they just still do not agree Politics this needs mutual understanding between the two. The problem with hem is they do not share any territory other than Xamar.

The Merehaan Majeerteen rivalry goes back to the Siyad bare era ssdf fighting the Merehaan government in their eyes as the Majeerteens wanted the top seat they even went as far as using Ethiopians for it against their own clan cousins the Merehaan, it goes also very deep. there were also some disputes over the ownership of the Kismayo port town iwhich caused tensions.

The Habaryoonis habarjeclo rivalry goes back in the 50s fighting over water wells in southern togdheer and who is the supreme leader of Burco as the people they get along pretty much fine its just their political leaders often do not agree.There is also huge competition between these two clans of who is the the isaaq leader in the east as both of the clans live in sanaag and sool together.

[Thuganomics]

Ali v Frazier

[abdalla11]

Snetters vs Slifers, there´s unhealthy rivalry between them, too much cuqdad

[sadeboi]

Emperior...Darood as a collective ma fiicano in la isticmaalo..

Isaq vs Dhulbahante (sometimes Harti when mjs used to get in)

Hawiye vs Majeertaan iyo Marexaan (politics...and civil war era)

Ogadeen barely is involved with you lot or hawiye...like someone said Darood is a huge clan that is involved political and in conflicts everywhere..in Somalia (in SSC..Puntland...Central Somalia...Jubbaland) Kenya and Ethiopia....marka to just throw around the Daarood name waa a lie...the Lelkase in Goldogob or Warsangali in Lasqoorey or the Majeertaan in Galkacyo or the Marexaan in Caabudwaaq or Garbahaarey or the Ogaden in Godey or Garissa don't have any battles or association with Somaliland...waa hal juffo of Daarood ah oo Kablalax ah oo Koombe ah or Harti...waa nimanka siciid harti ee walaalo iska celi ama naga aamus magac Darood aad iska shegeysiin ayaba ii dhibaya..

[Khalid Ali]

Emperior...Darood as a collective ma fiicano in la isticmaalo..

Isaq vs Dhulbahante (sometimes Harti when mjs used to get in)

Hawiye vs Majeertaan iyo Marexaan (politics...and civil war era)

Ogadeen barely is involved with you lot or hawiye...like someone said Darood is a huge clan that is involved political and in conflicts everywhere..in Somalia (in SSC..Puntland...Central Somalia...Jubbaland) Kenya and Ethiopia....marka to just throw around the Daarood name waa a lie...the Lelkase in Goldogob or Warsangali in Lasqoorey or the Majeertaan in Galkacyo or the Marexaan in Caabudwaaq or Garbahaarey or the Ogaden in Godey or Garissa don't have any battles or association with Somaliland...waa hal juffo of Daarood ah oo Kablalax ah oo Koombe ah or Harti...waa nimanka siciid harti ee walaalo iska celi ama naga aamus magac Darood aad iska shegeysiin ayaba ii dhibaya..

Sade boi the sultan was talking about the late 19 18 century and begin 20 century rivalry between the mainly the Habr Yunis And ciidagale Isaaq subclans versus the various Absame darood subclans. And than the hartis in the east with also mainly interaction between the sections of the Hy and eastern Hjs, But that was the passed not now and days since now and days the Absame Darood subclans and isaaq habr magaalde subclans can get along fine but i was talking about the passed. We can always break things into subclans but what is the point.it will only get more confusing as we will get into more sub sub sub clan. Sxb where do you get that there is a conflict between us and the Dhulbahantes this is not a clan matter xilgii qabilka walaga tagay maanta sheeko qabil ma socdo eeh wa siyasad, but sade boi we are talking about the large part ofcourse sacad does not interact with cismaan maxamuud but he does with leelkase cumar maxamuud the darods the cayr does the same with the Merexaan in gobolada dhexe u can call your kuwini magacyada diniga badna laakin dee nimanku wa Merexaan that is true the Ogaden and hawiye hardly deal there are only karanles who live in Ogadeniya but degodia live in nfd with the ogadens so we can say ogaden and hawiye na way is arkaan now Merexaan iyo Majeerteen iyo Ogaden qaar iyo leelkase wey is aarkaan Hawiye. Isaaq na harti iyo Absame way isi so gaadhan xiligi beriga foga iyo xiligan baa so dee ta weyn baynu ka qadanayna sada boyow.

[sadeboi]

War ii dhageeyso

Fact: Isaq all live by eachother
Fact: Hawiyes all live by each other
Fact: Forget Daood, Darood sub-families do no even live by each other..

When you say Isaq and Ogaden that is simply absurd...When you say Daarood iyo Hawiye waa absurd.. the only time Darood in Somalia and Hawiyes in Somalia fought was when the USC attacked and even then Hawiyes had yam-yam iyo qadhaadweyn with them...

[Khalid Ali]

sade boi dee darod live inbetween Isaaq and hawiye and some border the raxanweyn you're clan

Thats when we are talking about Somaliland and Somalia the former Somali republic.

iska dhig Ethiopia iyo kenya meel bal horta

Laakin if you go into subclans dee sheekadu way sii walanaysa

For instance Jubooyinka waxaad deris tihin idinka iyo ogadenka jubooyinka iyo Merexaanka Jubooyinka Gaal jecel oo iyaguna wax ka dega jubooyinka Marka gaaljecel wa hawiye we cannot Marka say Merexaan iyo gaal jecel ba wada dega dee ileen gaaljecel wa hawiye Merexaan na wa daarood ma ii fahantay

War waan kugu dawakhaya Suldaan Emperior aan kugu yeedho isaga ku fahmaye eh

[grandpakhalif]

sheekhal is not hawiye, wa isku sheeg civil war

[sadeboi]

sade boi dee darod live inbetween Isaaq and hawiye and some border the raxanweyn you're clan

Thats when we are talking about Somaliland and Somalia the former Somali republic.

iska dhig Ethiopia iyo kenya meel bal horta

Laakin if you go into subclans dee sheekadu way sii walanaysa

For instance Jubooyinka waxaad deris tihin idinka iyo ogadenka jubooyinka iyo Merexaanka Jubooyinka Gaal jecel oo iyaguna wax ka dega jubooyinka Marka gaaljecel wa hawiye we cannot Marka say Merexaan iyo gaal jecel ba wada dega dee ileen gaaljecel wa hawiye Merexaan na wa daarood ma ii fahantay

War waan kugu dawakhaya Suldaan Emperior aan kugu yeedho isaga ku fahmaye eh

Gaaljecel waa juffo yar oo hal beel oo Marexaan Talxe la dagaaley dhow jeer its not a Gaaljecel Marexaan fight nor are they any real presence in terms of numbers...ou of 18 gobils Daarood live and are a majority in 9. Including the biggest ones. Waa magac dhil in Daarod lagu simo qabiilo kale.