Russia and China veto UN resolution on Syria

[grandpakhalif]

What is this idiot Abukaar saying? Great scholars like Imam Abu Hanifa, Ibn Hazm, Imaam Shaafici all said they are kuffar. So who are you to say they're muslim?

[ZubeirAwal]

Mr.Udun all I hear is lame cantrabash calling great Emirs and Kings zio-"insert country here", don't you know the founder of Shiaism this evil zorostorian-zionist group that infiltrated Islam. This was their beginning and nothing has changed, they were the ones who killed the great khulufah like Ali and Uthman these evil people are just repeating their jargon again. They have done nothing against Israel while countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE have economically crippled Israel.

SAUDI ARABIA IS ISREAL+ BRITAIN'S CHILD
What are you saying?, as long as Saudi Arabia exists is as long as the muslim world is weak, the prophesied imam the prophet told us about will destroy this corrupt house who bore out of the british empire's womb.

What is this idiot Abukaar saying? Great scholars like Imam Abu Hanifa, Ibn Hazm, Imaam Shaafici all said they are kuffar. So who are you to say they're muslim?

The Prophet says they are Muslim, if they FAST like you, If they PRAY like you, If they PREFORM ZAKAT like you, If they GREET like you, if they SLEEP like you, if they EAT like you
IF THEY SAY LAA ILAHA ILALAH, MUHAMMADAR RASULALAH THEY ARE MUSLIM!

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING THE HADITH OF THE PROPHET AND THE WORD OF ALLAH!?

Regarding Imam Abu Hanifa, the founder of the Hanafi system of Islamic law, which has more followers than any other system in Islam, it is written: "He did not call as kafir anyone from among the people of the Qibla.'' (Sharh Mawaqif, fifth part)

He said: "Nothing expels a man from faith except the denial of that which made him enter it.'' (Rad al-Mukhtar, vol. iii, p. 310)

"It is extremely serious to expel a Muslim from the faith.''(Sharh Shifa, vol. ii, p. 500)

"A ruling of takfir against a Muslim should not be given if it is possible to interpret his words in a favourable manner.'' (Rad al-Mukhtar, Book of Jihad, ch. on Apostasy)

The Prophet told you not to call those who say there is no god but Allah as kafir, he said it not me, so beware ya ikhwaan.
"Withhold [your tongues] from those who say `There is no god but Allah' --- do not call them kafir. Whoever calls a reciter of `There is no god but Allah' as a kafir, is nearer to being a kafir himself.'' (Tabarani, reported from Ibn Umar)

[grandpakhalif]

1)Imam Ash-Shafi'i: On one occasion mam Shafi'i said concerning the Shi'a, "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidi* Shi'a." and on another occasion he said; "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except for the raafidi* Shi'a, because they invent ahadith and adopt them as part of their religion." (Minhaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah) *(Some Shi'a at the time of the Alid Imam Zayd ibn 'Ali demanded that he make a declaration of innocence (tabarra) from whoever disagreed with 'Ali's right to be Imam. When Zayd refused, they rejected him, and became known as the "raafida" or rejectors. Those who followed Imam Zayd became known as Zaydis, and have very little difference from mainstream Islam. The Raafidi evolved into the various Imami Shi'a sects, the largest of which is the Ithna 'Ashari.)

2) Imam Abu Hanifah: It is reported that often Imam Abu Hanifah used to repeat the following statement about the raafidi Shi'a; "Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief."

3) Imam Malik: Once when asked about the Rafidi Shi'a, Imam Malik said; "Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars." During one of Imam Malik's classes, it was mentioned that the Rafidi Shi'a curse the Sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them." (48:29) He then said, "Whoever becomes enraged when the Sahaba are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks." (Tafseer al-Qurtubi)

4) Abu Zur'ah ar-Razi: He said of the Rafidi Shi'a doctrine of cursing the Sahaba, "If you see someone degrade any of the companions of the Prophet SAWS know that he is a disbeliever. Because the Prophet SAWS was real, what he brought was the truth and all of it was conveyed to us by way of the Sahaba. What those disbelievers wish to do is cast doubt on the reliability of our narrators in order to invalidate the Qur'an and Sunnah. Thus the disbelievers are the ones most deserving of defamation."

5) Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi: During the period of Muslim rule in Spain, Imam Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm would often debate with the Catholic priests about their religious texts. He brought before them evidence of textual distortions in the Bible and the loss of the original manuscripts. When they replied by pointing out the Shi'a claims that the Qur'an has been distorted and altered, Ibn Hazm informed them that Shi'a claims were not valid evidence because the Shi'a were not themselves muslims.


Look at these great imams what they said about these deviant kaafirs may allah be pleased with them. Whom will I believe? You a teenage kid in england or these great imams of the salaf? of course them

[ZubeirAwal]

I believe in the prophets word and he said it clear, anyone who calls the one who says " There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his last messenger" a kaafir, he becomes on himself, i think its too far for you to jump in that line, you wouldn't go infront of a Shi'a Muslim kid in a mosque and say your a kaafir get out?, its better to leave things unsaid akhi, i follow what the prophet says

[grandpakhalif]

Wallahi your an idiot, May Allah guide you.

[ZubeirAwal]

Wallahi your an idiot, May Allah guide you.

I'll say it again, you have no authority to call those who declare the shahada, as kafir, the prophet said it, and i go by what he says, your the one who needs guiding, keep on booty shaking for the isrealis, nacallah tula shaydaan ku yaal.

[union]

Look at these two teenage Islamists arguing. Keep at each other throats you morons

[grandpakhalif]

Your so arrogant it baffles me, you interpret hadith by yourself when you are ignorant, you ignore big scholars and say they are wrong you call me a shaitan for respecting the rulers, something which the prophet emphasized. Learn true Islam before you open your big mouth.

[Colonel]

This idiot name Abuuuukar thinks I care about America, I care about muslim lives being shed and here you're talking about America. What a fool!

Akhi, it wasn't me who was booty shaking for Isreal and America to attack Iran, who also have Muslims.

Iranian government is kuffar, mushriks the worst kind, eliminate them and kill them. Wallahi those people kill sunnis like flies I don't give a sh-t about them.

Oh the irony! Guess what the Syrian government is of the Alawi sect whom consider themselves Shia, however even the Shia have rejected them. The Syrian gov has also killed thousands of Sunnis this year alone...or do we not care about them because Iran isn't responsible for the killings?

Truth is you only hate on Iran because they are Saudi's biggest threat. Stop being fulay and begging America to fight all your wars! If the Saudi army is so strong and developed why do they always shit themselves when it comes to exchanging blows? Couldn't handle Iraq and now can't handle Iran, it seems all they're good at is picking on tiny island Bahrain's population.

[ZubeirAwal]

Your so arrogant it baffles me, you interpret hadith by yourself when you are ignorant, you ignore big scholars and say they are wrong you call me a shaitan for respecting the rulers, something which the prophet emphasized. Learn true Islam before you open your big mouth.

No ikhwaan, you contradict everything you say everytime you type, the Assadite regime is a Shia one who has been killing Sunni's all year, but thats ok in your book, you hate the noble persians because they are the only Muslim nation whom are powerful and have the balls to take on Isreal,and are a threat to Saudi Arabia (Alxamdulilah) who is a state functioning by the strings of Ahlul-kitaab on King Abdullahs head and shoulders!

[grandpakhalif]

Akhi Colonel, I also say that Syrian government is not muslim and that they massacre Sunnis. But there is no sufficient opposition which can overthrow this evil Assadi, so we Salafis say that they should remain patient and await this trial to be over. if there was a large enough opposition I would support their overthrow but this obviously doesn't exist, just some women and children protesting on the streets which is macsiya in it of itself.

[grandpakhalif]

Walaalyaal I don't support this evil Bashiri regime, don't misinterpret me for saying this. Me and the Salafi scholars say that we support his downfall but there is not enough legitimate opposition against him. We need to save muslim lives and preventing fasad! Unless a huge army can come in and defeat Bashar the shacab should stay home or risk being killed!

[ZubeirAwal]

Akhi Colonel, I also say that Syrian government is not muslim and that they massacre Sunnis. But there is no sufficient opposition which can overthrow this evil Assadi, so we Salafis say that they should remain patient and await this trial to be over. if there was a large enough opposition I would support their overthrow but this obviously doesn't exist, just some women and children protesting on the streets which is macsiya in it of itself.

Thats the proof i have right there, you love the Syrian government , but your masters don't (saudis) whom them their selves are not muslim, in my book neither are, but the Saudi regime commited the bigger crime by taking Ahlul-Kitab as their protectors when Allah cazawajal told no muslim not to, this is Kufr Akbar, it's not the prophets saying but Allahs, so i suggest you to stop contradicting yourself because the same regime you praise commited the biggest crime any Muslim nation could commit (Siding with the gaalo in removing the Ottoman who were the righteous ruling authority, for 5000£ sterling pounds per month to the father of the basterd childs "ibn saud" )
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[ZubeirAwal]

Walaalyaal I don't support this evil Bashiri regime, don't misinterpret me for saying this. Me and the Salafi scholars say that we support his downfall but there is not enough legitimate opposition against him. We need to save muslim lives and preventing fasad! Unless a huge army can come in and defeat Bashar the shacab should stay home or risk being killed!

Ikhwaan you do not know what to say!, you are confused and should not jump into these kind of topics, one second you want the people who want assad out to be killed

good job china and russia, those trouble making demonstrators should stay home or die.

and the next you are speaking in a tone of care for them? Retard wallahi.

[grandpakhalif]

This kid calling King Abdullah kaafir wal ciyaadullbillah this guy is a takfiri, your on my ignore list.