Bilal(asxabi; companion of the Prophet(scw)was SOMALI

[Meyle]

Mocking his appearence is a form of cursing, we all know your intention and certainely allah swt knows best, how could this topic go from Bilal RA to qabil bashing in less than 10 posts is beyond me wallahi, what do you guys do when you wake up??? acuuzbillah min al daroodi/hawiya/isaaqi and then throw a dart in your room at the opposing qabil figure face, you waryaa's Need to Chill No forum in the whole net have a section for qabil bashing, even though its entertaining for some but these days it has no boundry even the sahaba are a target and not spared. lol

What you're writing is quite hypocritical though, what about the Sahaba that called Bilal, ''The son of a black mother'', was that a joke? was the sahaba being descriptive?.... No he wasn't, he was disrespecting a fellow Sahaaba based on the color of his skin. Is god going to punish this Sahaba for disrespecting another Sahaba? If not.. then why would god punish for example blackrain for calling Bilaal black?

Intention is different, God will punish you for your intention more. The sahaba are humans and allah would deal with them if they did wrong, the question is how could you even compare our generation to the best muslim generation in the sahaba, even if what you saying is true which i doubt the authencity of it you are looking at a drop of sin in an ocean of hassanat.

So the Sahabas intention was pure and friendly while blackrains intentions are not? Give me a f-king break, the Sahaba said the son of a black mother which is disturbing because he was not only mockin him for the color of his skin but by the fact that Bilal also was the son of a black woman i.e the worst of the worst, she's both black and she's a woman. While blackrain said he was black and used Hawiye as a scale even though that's wrong. Plus the Sahabas hasanat has nothing to do with the fact he did something wrong.. Just because someone is pious and righteous doesn't make their bad choices less bad because of their piousness.

[Khalid Ali]

Kan menace wa mid mirqaansan shiishadu aad u caba wa ciyaalki carabta ku koray wax walba way ku sheekayaan


Ma bilaal ibn rabaax ba Somali ah


Its also a funny an Ethiopian and an Eritrean are talking about their ethnic groups on a Somali forum funny shit by the way bareento the bilen of eritrea are agaw descendants.

[MidriGeez]

Midri,

Agaw is an almost extinct tribe/etnicity living deep inside ethio with no or little interaction with Eretrea...why this phobia of Agaw
BTW i have never seen an Agaw person and know almost nthg about them.

B.

Tigrayans and northern amhara are mixed habesh and agew, they are known for a long time to abuse their powers when they get it, even hordatus the greek talked about them as savages,cannabils who even conduct sex with men, the za-agwe jew dynasty of ethiopia who butchered everyone were agew who transfered to amhara todate, i think you would get the picture of how the habesh in ethiopia act today everytime they get power, Tigray and amhara was their ancient home so when the our beja and afar elders In eritrea talk about them and their history we the new child Listen carefully as they know them best. you give those small agew population power in ethiopia and watch how they would blaze the whole horn. according to our folklore they were actually a nilotic Tribe who adopted the cushtic language when they grazed along sudan and entered Ethiopia 2500 Years ago, and allah knows best. But Unlike the afar/saho and somali they don't have a direct lineage to cush and their past is unknown. According to the folklore In Eritrea somali ancestor is either the same or the elder brother of the afar ancestor (Most likely Havilah son of cush). Not suprising when you see afar and somali today they do resemble the features alot more than other horner cousins. where i am from the idea is even that somali who was one tribe 3000-4000 years ago called "dir" split from the afar and moved south and east during the Puntic Empire In Eritrea. Cushtic people are known to be fierce fighters when the time of war arise and were unmatched at battles at some stage in history, but aggression and abusing power never were in their nature, you look at the whole horn in general Eritrea/djbouti/somalia these people only fight when attacked, the agew pre-emptive aggression is only known among the Nilotic Tribes, one good example is the destruction of the nilotic kingdom in sudan by the axumite to protect the cushtic population from their daily killing kidnapping and looting as they started to move into the horn.

[Meyle]

Midrigeez,
How did you come to the conclusion that Sayyidna Bilal {r.a} was either Oromo or Somali?

Sahaba Narrations. Bilal among others was acquired as a slave when the king of the habesh in ethiopia conquered new land in the south, and only people/qabil at that time to come under the control of the ethiopians were the dir somali, his people beliefs also matches what somali believed pre islamic times which is animism. But i read some of the sahaba narration (in arabic) and picked up hints from here and there. alot of little facts makes me almost sure he was somali more than oromo because according to Historic facts oromo were outside the boundry of today ethiopia at that time.

Bullshit... You can't use animism as a way of connecting Bilal to Somalis because even Arab bedouins believed in some form of animism. As X.Playa already pointed out there has not been a single Somali slave throughout history. How can Bilal be Somali when he's sisters was already living in the place where the first Sahabas made their Hijra to i.e Abyssinia and she accompanied them to Arabia when they went back.

[Cherine]

Midrigeez

Bilal was 7abeshi either Eritrean or Ethiopian; there were many 7abesha all over Arabia at that time. I don't know but it looks like you're trying to distant yourself from him because once upon a time he was a slave of the Pagan Arabs...well guess what ..daxaabsha are still treated as slaves by Yemenis called names like Abds, Akhdaam so why shouldn't it be with in the realm of possibility that Bilal{r.a} was of your people?

[MidriGeez]

How many useless threads this guy opens per/day???

R u refering to me?


@Mid..bro, honestly does ethiopia have more Christian or Muslims? Same question for Eritrea? Plus tell me abt the qabiil wth the best looking females? Is it the Rashidi? Or the Tigre?

Ethiopia is 60%-65% Muslims. All oromo except those in the south west are muslims, 35% of amhara are muslims,60% of Gurage. 15% of tigrayan, somali and afar are 100%. Figures don't lie when you break up the percentage.

Eritrea is 5.9 Million of which 60%-65% are muslim.
Diaspora Eritreans are close to 2 million of which 90% are muslims.
Again once you break up the qabil and do the percentage its evident, 100 Years ago muslims were only 15% in Eritrea btw and actually were ruling Eritrea.lol Laakin 50/50 is what the official numbers show, i also say 50/50 when ajnaabi ask me it really doesn't make a difference to Eritreans as muslims are treated like a first class citizen in their country unlike ethiopia. The only difference is the eritrean christians knows this and admitt it if you go in details with them unlike the ethiopian christians who would actually lie about the statistics and call it a christian country.

All Eritreans girls have a nice features, the best looking girls personally are from my home town massawa, you get girls rashida arabs who are mixed with tigre or saho or afar oh man you would just want to get married on the spot, especially when they put the hijab to cover half their hair with their hazelnut eyes and you see the semitic/cushtic mix you go crazy. Pure non mix Girls are Tigre and Saho Girls. since massawa is known to be a big melting pot of arabs/africans for over a thousand years the beauty there is magic. I have actually met a somali in massawa who married a local girl, wallahi i don't know what he did to impress her dad but mashallah he scored a wife like no other, her father was saho and mother rashida i think. His kids looks out of this world.

[MenaceToSociety]

Kan menace wa mid mirqaansan shiishadu aad u caba wa ciyaalki carabta ku koray wax walba way ku sheekayaan


Ma bilaal ibn rabaax ba Somali ah


Its also a funny an Ethiopian and an Eritrean are talking about their ethnic groups on a Somali forum funny shit by the way bareento the bilen of eritrea are agaw descendants.

Aflagaadada ma wanaagsana, this topic is relevant. I do mnot use anything that alters the mind walaahi.

Btw i suspect I ran into u in Hargeisa...were u that dude that kept wearing that purse bag on his thigh?

[MidriGeez]

There was never a somali slave , no record or document in Arabic or in English ever stated that a somali slave was seen any where any time in the wordl... so stop this shit. Besides Bilaal was a Christian and we know where in Africa Chritstainty was the religion during the 7th century.

Little crazy kids opening stupid topics.

All slaves who were acquired by the King of ethiopia were baptised, secondly his parents were christians so he was born into it.

[MidriGeez]

Mocking his appearence is a form of cursing, we all know your intention and certainely allah swt knows best, how could this topic go from Bilal RA to qabil bashing in less than 10 posts is beyond me wallahi, what do you guys do when you wake up??? acuuzbillah min al daroodi/hawiya/isaaqi and then throw a dart in your room at the opposing qabil figure face, you waryaa's Need to Chill No forum in the whole net have a section for qabil bashing, even though its entertaining for some but these days it has no boundry even the sahaba are a target and not spared. lol

What you're writing is quite hypocritical though, what about the Sahaba that called Bilal, ''The son of a black mother'', was that a joke? was the sahaba being descriptive?.... No he wasn't, he was disrespecting a fellow Sahaaba based on the color of his skin. Is god going to punish this Sahaba for disrespecting another Sahaba? If not.. then why would god punish for example blackrain for calling Bilaal black?

Intention is different, God will punish you for your intention more. The sahaba are humans and allah would deal with them if they did wrong, the question is how could you even compare our generation to the best muslim generation in the sahaba, even if what you saying is true which i doubt the authencity of it you are looking at a drop of sin in an ocean of hassanat.

So the Sahabas intention was pure and friendly while blackrains intentions are not? Give me a f-king break, the Sahaba said the son of a black mother which is disturbing because he was not only mockin him for the color of his skin but by the fact that Bilal also was the son of a black woman i.e the worst of the worst, she's both black and she's a woman. While blackrain said he was black and used Hawiye as a scale even though that's wrong. Plus the Sahabas hasanat has nothing to do with the fact he did something wrong.. Just because someone is pious and righteous doesn't make their bad choices less bad because of their piousness.

can you even give me the narration of the sahaba who said that??? it better be a sahaba who was muslim at that time and an authentic Narration. i am sorry but i need to see this before i reply to you google is one hell of a tool these days.

[MidriGeez]

Kan menace wa mid mirqaansan shiishadu aad u caba wa ciyaalki carabta ku koray wax walba way ku sheekayaan


Ma bilaal ibn rabaax ba Somali ah


Its also a funny an Ethiopian and an Eritrean are talking about their ethnic groups on a Somali forum funny shit by the way bareento the bilen of eritrea are agaw descendants.

Not all of them, some of them are actually from the hamaseein region which makes them tigre in origin and other are agew who fled the slaughtering of the za-agwe Dynasty and found shelter inside eritrea, funny that the referndum of 1993 99.8% voted to seperate, guess the area's where the 0.2% vote for yes to stay with ethiopia came from?lol

[X.Playa]

One has to read the Saheh-Al-Bukhari and look for how many Hadiths concerning race and how on the sacle of humanity Black African were always put at the bottom. When an Arab use to make an example he would say " even a black slave...after he mentions the rest of humanity"

The worst an Arab called another Arab in the 9th centruy was " you son of a negress" as opposed to when they like one another a man will call the other " Yaa-Ibn-Al-Baydaa" even if that Baydaa was slave for an Arab it was an honor. But call him Yaa-Ibn-Al-Sawdaa and he will get pissed off and molest his goat..even if that Sawdaa is a free woman.

Just google.. Slavery and Hadiths and see the amount of racism. Don't take my word for it.

[MidriGeez]

Midrigeez,
How did you come to the conclusion that Sayyidna Bilal {r.a} was either Oromo or Somali?

Sahaba Narrations. Bilal among others was acquired as a slave when the king of the habesh in ethiopia conquered new land in the south, and only people/qabil at that time to come under the control of the ethiopians were the dir somali, his people beliefs also matches what somali believed pre islamic times which is animism. But i read some of the sahaba narration (in arabic) and picked up hints from here and there. alot of little facts makes me almost sure he was somali more than oromo because according to Historic facts oromo were outside the boundry of today ethiopia at that time.

Bullshit... You can't use animism as a way of connecting Bilal to Somalis because even Arab bedouins believed in some form of animism. As X.Playa already pointed out there has not been a single Somali slave throughout history. How can Bilal be Somali when he's sisters was already living in the place where the first Sahabas made their Hijra to i.e Abyssinia and she accompanied them to Arabia when they went back.

where did you get this??? the sahaba migration was to Eritrea no way Bilal was from Eritrea even though i would love to claim him. the first migration was to debarwa through massawa port. offcourse his sister lived in abbysinia but which part??? its like saying you live in europe england and i went to austria so i must have met you then.

[Meyle]

Midri,

Agaw is an almost extinct tribe/etnicity living deep inside ethio with no or little interaction with Eretrea...why this phobia of Agaw
BTW i have never seen an Agaw person and know almost nthg about them.

B.

Tigrayans and northern amhara are mixed habesh and agew, they are known for a long time to abuse their powers when they get it, even hordatus the greek talked about them as savages,cannabils who even conduct sex with men, the za-agwe jew dynasty of ethiopia who butchered everyone were agew who transfered to amhara todate, i think you would get the picture of how the habesh in ethiopia act today everytime they get power, Tigray and amhara was their ancient home so when the our beja and afar elders In eritrea talk about them and their history we the new child Listen carefully as they know them best. you give those small agew population power in ethiopia and watch how they would blaze the whole horn. according to our folklore they were actually a nilotic Tribe who adopted the cushtic language when they grazed along sudan and entered Ethiopia 2500 Years ago, and allah knows best. But Unlike the afar/saho and somali they don't have a direct lineage to cush and their past is unknown. According to the folklore In Eritrea somali ancestor is either the same or the elder brother of the afar ancestor (Most likely Havilah son of cush). Not suprising when you see afar and somali today they do resemble the features alot more than other horner cousins. where i am from the idea is even that somali who was one tribe 3000-4000 years ago called "dir" split from the afar and moved south and east during the Puntic Empire In Eritrea. Cushtic people are known to be fierce fighters when the time of war arise and were unmatched at battles at some stage in history, but aggression and abusing power never were in their nature, you look at the whole horn in general Eritrea/djbouti/somalia these people only fight when attacked, the agew pre-emptive aggression is only known among the Nilotic Tribes, one good example is the destruction of the nilotic kingdom in sudan by the axumite to protect the cushtic population from their daily killing kidnapping and looting as they started to move into the horn.

Agaw are disgusting and useless except Bilen.. I've seen some Bilen girls mostly mixed with Biher Tigrigna, Afar and Saho and they were.

I think that Beja, Afar, Saho and Somali once were the same people but that they split from each other thousands of years ago and that they used to speak one language but because of separation the languages changed and became different.

In Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs theres even a passage that refers to an ancient egyptian sailor who traveled along the coast of Wawat (Nubia) and he met a serpent which was a prince of Punt and he came from an area that was far south from where they met i.e Wawat (Nubia) which means Punt must have been Eritrea, Djibouti and northern Somalia.

[X.Playa]

There was only 3 Christains in Mecca in the 6th century:

1- Bilaal
2- Jaabir Al-Nasraani
3- Wareqa Ibnu Nawfal,

Bilaal been Christian is well known also Bilaal's father was not a slave he was a captive he was captured during the raid of the Ethopian Genral Abraha when he attempted to level the Black Rock. The raid failed , a small-pox decimated the forces and Bilaal's father ..was captured and sold as a slave.

[MidriGeez]

Midrigeez

Bilal was 7abeshi either Eritrean or Ethiopian; there were many 7abesha all over Arabia at that time. I don't know but it looks like you're trying to distant yourself from him because once upon a time he was a slave of the Pagan Arabs...well guess what ..daxaabsha are still treated as slaves by Yemenis called names like Abds, Akhdaam so why shouldn't it be with in the realm of possibility that Bilal{r.a} was of your people?

Bilaal didn't speak geez nor afar, so how could he be from Eritrea??? Yes habesh are treated like kadamis but to yemeni eritreans are known as aga3ez not habesh, and actually people from Higaz claim to be descedents of aga3z too and link themselves to Eritreans (look at the name Higaz and agaz). why do you think ethiopians claim they are eritreans when they get to Gulf arab land. If bilaal was from Eritrea he would be called Bilaal al Hidarbi or bilaal al hakiri or bilaal al minfiri etc Giving a general description of "al habshi" would mean his origin is unknown to his arab masters at that time, i promise you if bilaal knew he was from Eritrea and belonged to one of its tribe he would claim it when he was a slave as alot of arabised tribes like himyar back then were related to the eritrean tribes on both side of the sea. Imagine you are a bantu somali slave in the 19th century and were captured and enslaved by marehan fighters and they called you a bantu somali slave till you found out you were actually majeertan originally you telling me you wouldn't claim that openly so you would have the chance to be freed. Bilad al habesh was a general term to describe all of the horn just like europe now.