And where exactly is your daliil for a hereditary mufti in Islam.Also where was this "mufti" taughtLionheart10 wrote:Thuganomics wrote:Lionheart10 wrote:
Mohammed Amin el-Husseini, appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem by Sir Herbert Samuel the High Commissioner of British Mandatory Palestine in 1921 was a dirty British agent and has nothing to do with Islam.Where in Islam does one get a title called a "Grand Mufti"With or withouth the british, he was going to be the mufti of Jerusalem anyway because of his father, who was the mufti before him. Mashallah, Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini was a pioneer in the struggle against zionism. He tried vigorously to prevent what is happening in Palestine today. May Allah grant him Jannah. Amin.
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Mufti's are inherited, well in Saudi at least. the Religious family Al Ash-Sheikhs are the second most prestige after the Sauds and they pass the religious titles onto there children who they have taught.
The Sauds and Al as-Sheikhs have a treaty whereby the politics is government by the Sauds and religion is governed by the As-Sheikh family.
The Sauds and Al as-Sheikhs have a treaty whereby the politics is government by the Sauds and religion is governed by the As-Sheikh family.
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Amin al-Husseini was born around 1897 in Jerusalem, the son of the then mufti of that city and prominent early opponent of Zionism, Tahir al-Husayni. The al-Husseini clan consisted of wealthy landowners in southern Palestine, centred around the district of Jerusalem. Thirteen members of the clan had been Mayors of Jerusalem between 1864 and 1920. Another member of the clan and Amin's half-brother Kamil al-Husayni, also served as Mufti of Jerusalem. In Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini attended a Qur'an school (kuttub), and Ottoman government secondary school (rüshidiyye) where he learnt Turkish, and a Catholic secondary school run by French missionaries, the Catholic Frères, where he learnt French.
He also studied at the Alliance Israélite Universelle with its non-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi. In 1912 he studied Islamic law briefly at Al-Azhar University in Cairo and at the Dar al-Da'wa wa-l-Irshad, under Rashid Rida, a salafi intellectual, who was to remain Amin's mentor till his death in 1935. Though groomed to hold religious office from youth, his education was typical of the Ottoman effendi at the time, and he only donned a religious turban in 1921 after being appointed mufti.
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He also studied at the Alliance Israélite Universelle with its non-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi.


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With the outbreak of World War I in 1914, al-Husseini received a commission in the Ottoman Army as an artillery officer and was assigned to the Forty-Seventh Brigade stationed in and around the city of Izmir. In November 1916 he obtained a three-month disability leave from the army and returned to Jerusalem. He was recovering from an illness there when the city was captured by the British a year later. The British and Sherifian armies, for which some 500 Palestinian Arabs volunteered, completed their conquest of Ottoman-controlled Palestine and Syria in 1918, alongside Jewish troops.
As a Sherifian officer, al-Husseini recruited men to serve in Faisal bin Al Hussein bin Ali El-Hashemi's army during the Arab Revolt, a task he undertook while employed as a recruiter by the British military administration in Jerusalem and Damascus. The post-war Palin Report noted that the English recruiting officer, Captain C. D. Brunton, found al-Husseini, with whom he cooperated, very pro-British, and that, via the diffusion of War Office pamphlets dropped from the air promising them peace and prosperity under British rule, 'the recruits (were) being given to understand that they were fighting in a national cause and to liberate their country from the Turks'. Nothing in his early career to this point suggests he had ambitions to serve in a religious office: his interests were those of an Arab nationalist.

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It was a jewish school, so what? It was non-zionist and it's role was to improve the lives of Jews in the middle east.Thuganomics wrote:He also studied at the Alliance Israélite Universelle with its non-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi.![]()
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A true mufti doesn't take indoctrination from Jews or Christians for that matterLionheart10 wrote:It was a jewish school, so what? It was non-zionist and it's role was to improve the lives of Jews in the middle east.Thuganomics wrote:He also studied at the Alliance Israélite Universelle with its non-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi.![]()
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As the quote shows, the school is and always has been diverse. With students of all three major religions attending, it is a school that doesn't discriminate nor does it teach religion. Mashallah, the mufti was a man always seeking knowledge. He had already attended Islamic school, so for his formal teaching, he attended this school. The oppressive ottoman empire of the time, didn't care for the well-being of the people. They didn't build schools, and when famines struck, they rounded up all the food for themselves.Alliance Israélite Universelle continues to operate dozens of schools and educational programs in Israel today. The network also includes the School for the Deaf in Jerusalem, in which deaf students, Jews and Arabs, with various mental and physical disabilities study together.
Thus, the mufti was right in seeking his education. He wasn't anti-Jewish, rather, he was anti-Zionist.
Husseini intervened on 13 May 1943, before the meeting with Himmler when he was informed of the Holocaust, with the German Foreign Office to block possible transfers of Jews from Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania, after reports reached him that 4,000 Jewish children accompanied by 500 adults had managed to reach Palestine. He asked that the Foreign Minister "to do his utmost" to block all such proposals and this request was complied with.
According to Idith Zertal, none of the documents presented at Eichmann's trial prove that it was the Mufti's interference, in these 'acts of total evil,' that prevented the children's rescue. A year later, on 25 July 1944, he wrote to the Hungarian foreign minister to register his objection to the release of certificates for 900 Jewish children and 100 adults for transfer from Hungary, fearing they might end up in Palestine. He suggested that if such transfers of population were deemed necessary, then:
"it would be indispensable and infinitely preferable to send them to other countries where they would find themselves under active control, as for example Poland, thus avoiding danger and preventing damage."
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Prerequisites of a Mufti
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Sorry I can't see this, I'm in school.
But to say that going to a school founded by someone of another religion is just ludicrous. That's like saying, "Oh, don't go to Eton College because it was founded by a Christian." Bitch please, I'm not going to jeopardize my education over some petty shit like that.
But to say that going to a school founded by someone of another religion is just ludicrous. That's like saying, "Oh, don't go to Eton College because it was founded by a Christian." Bitch please, I'm not going to jeopardize my education over some petty shit like that.
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LH10, Do you go to Eton?
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Even before the war, Nazi Germany maintained a supply of slave labour. This practice started from the early days of labour camps of "undesirables," such as the homeless, homosexual and criminals as well as political dissidents, communists, Jews, and anyone that the regime wanted out of the way. As the war progressed, the use of slave labour experienced massive growth. Prisoners of war and civilian "undesirables" were brought in from occupied territories. Hundreds of thousands of Jews, Slavs and other conquered peoples were used as slave labourers by German corporations such as Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben and even Fordwerke – a subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company. By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany's entire work force, and the majority of German factories had a contingent of prisoners.

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This is the best speech I've ever heard.
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"‘When Democracy Fails, the Stage Is Prepared for a Dictator’: this is the introductory headline of this text. It probes the hypothesis that Hitler, as well as Siad Barre in Somalia began their ‘career’ as ‘saviours’ or ‘Robin Hood’ figures who lifted up the spirits particularly of the ‘little people.’ Later, when destruction engulfed Germany, or Somalia, not only the ‘little people’ felt disappointed by their saviour, but, surprisingly enough, also the dictator himself felt let down by his followers. The hypothesis is examined whether such a dictator has a history of personal humiliation in his biography, a history that makes him able to attract the masses on one side, however, makes him on the other side unable to lead them constructively"
http://www.humiliationstudies.org/docum ... nHoods.pdf
http://www.humiliationstudies.org/docum ... nHoods.pdf
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