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Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:54 pm
by Navy9
أخي العزيز أطال الله عمرك واعطاك من خيراته ما لم تسمعه أذن او تراه عين
You and I have disagreed, which is okay, so lets put this to rest.
Fardoos/Firdoos is a female name in Arabic speaking countries and its a male's name in Iran [have you heard of the Persian poet Ferdowsi!
Its also a male's name in Pakistan.
And I think there was a garden in Persia by the name Firdoos.
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:14 pm
by Navy9
misterioso wrote:Is Faarax an original Somali name?
its Arabic
my mom had a friend whose name was Farah Said [female], in Arabic it means happy wedding...funny name.

Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:15 pm
by waayeel101
mashkour ukhti
what i know firdous means garden. wa laga yaba in masr dadku la baxan sida 6aha oo kale lkn carabta kuma badna.
ama iran iyo pakistan wa sida somalida uun kuwasi weliba waxay ku arkan quranka way la baxan.
misterioso wrote:Is Faarax an original Somali name?
farax not faarax is a female name.
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:50 pm
by Navy9
the naming of the Arabic week days is based on what? if Friday is the last day of the week and Saturday supposedly the first day, why do we number the day that comes after Saturday as day 1?
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:17 pm
by waayeel101
Navy9 wrote:the naming of the Arabic week days is based on what? if Friday is the last day of the week and Saturday supposedly the first day, why do we number the day that comes after Saturday as day 1?
Axad waa malinti illahay bilabay inu aburo dhulka marka wa 1st day.
somalidaba ku heesta
ma ogtahay aduunyada axadba la taago
anigana isniinbay jacayl igu abuurto
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:42 pm
by gurey25
Navy firdous is definatly not arab,
infact its 100% persian, fordous is also the root of Paradise, or i persian paradaze.
interestingly the use of the word firdaws in the quran is closer to the way it was pronounced in old persian avestan not the newer dialects like farsi
which became paradaze 100's of years later.
the same with butterfly in arabic, Faraasha, its from persian as well farashate, meaning angel.
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:04 pm
by Yohannes
gurey25 wrote:Navy firdous is definatly not arab,
infact its 100% persian, fordous is also the root of Paradise, or i persian paradaze.
interestingly the use of the word firdaws in the quran is closer to the way it was pronounced in old persian avestan not the newer dialects like farsi
which became paradaze 100's of years later.
the same with butterfly in arabic, Faraasha, its from persian as well farashate, meaning angel.
I never connected the dots like that, does that mean non-pure Arabic is in the Quran?
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:37 pm
by Navy9
Waayeel,
forget Somali songs, do you have another source that confirms creation started on Sunday? I am looking for a clear Islamic reference, not a reference borrowed from the other two religions.
Gurey,
I know firdoos is not Arabic, did I say it was Arabic?

although I do need to dig more on the name, but my for some reason I thought firdoos was one of a kind garden in ancient times, that when people think of gardens make a reference to it.
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:50 pm
by gurey25
Yohannes wrote:gurey25 wrote:Navy firdous is definatly not arab,
infact its 100% persian, fordous is also the root of Paradise, or i persian paradaze.
interestingly the use of the word firdaws in the quran is closer to the way it was pronounced in old persian avestan not the newer dialects like farsi
which became paradaze 100's of years later.
the same with butterfly in arabic, Faraasha, its from persian as well farashate, meaning angel.
I never connected the dots like that, does that mean non-pure Arabic is in the Quran?
The quran is in the arabic dialect spoken at that time in that region.
the arabs where not an isolated tribe in the amazon jungle, they had a long history with the rest of the world and
the borrowing of words was intensive as it should be.
words in arabic can be identified by its roots, if it cannot be broken down into roots its a foreign import.
names like noah/nuux abrahim/ibrahim are thus foriegn words in the case of ibrahim from a close relative of arabic , one of the northern syrian dialects.
Re: Salebaan or Suleiman?
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:55 pm
by waayeel101
navy
i have read it in Ibn Kathir's book "Albidayah Walnihayah". narrated by ibn abbas, ibn mas'ud and abdullahi bin salam (RA).