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Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:52 pm
by Casanova25
Hawdian wrote:Casanova25,

That's the truth sxb. We got niggaz under their own occupation (AMISOM, Kenya, etc) with dis-fractured banana republic trying to mislead us again. Last time they were chased and they left all of us behind to face Mengistu and his Cubans. We can't gamble second round and ally ourselves with cowards from Somalia Federation.

Those days are gone. They should worry about rebuilding their own lives, banana republic and taking their refugees back.
Amisom is on mandate so they will be going, laakin kenya is in for something else, but they have been defeated politically!

Don't you want to be free mann Again??

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:56 pm
by Clown
hawdian is one moment advocating for Somalland, the next criticizing Somalia, markaas he becomes the ambassador for Somalis in occupied regions. What a weirdo.

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:06 am
by Casanova25
Clown wrote:hawdian is one moment advocating for Somalland, the next criticizing Somalia, markaas he becomes the ambassador for Somalis in occupied regions. What a weirdo.
Hawdian waa nin reero badan! i think waxbaa iskaah :lol:

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:08 am
by Hawdian
I rather have the Habesha highlanders than Hutu. Very simple choice guys. And I never advocate for Somaliland secession. It has two choices; reunite with the south and get itself a better deal including working with Puntland and moving the capital to Erigavo...or join Ethiopia with Somali Region...it doesn't become a region of Ethiopia but sort of like an Emirati state within Ethiopia with its own separate government but same currency and army....its own capital and government.

I believe in regional integration not dis-fracturing and Balkanization.

Somalis in Ethiopia are better off with the rest of the Ethiopian community, we have a market of 100 million people and diverse goods, services, culture, language, produce, markets, climate, etc.

We just need to work on human rights and more freedom.

There is no disintegration in my book.

If it was up to me I do add Somaliland into Ethiopia...they have to understand Ethiopia is their immediate neighbour, their interest, their main market and is more relevant than Mogadishu. If they can't get along with Mogadishu, they should enter voluntary neo-fuctionalism initiative and by this I mean cross-border co-operation between Somaliland and Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is the future and there is no point back-paddling it now. We already went through the difficult period. Now its just matter of twigging few things and sailing ahead.

After 30 years, Somalia will be very jealous and would wish it was part of by then 150 million market...Somalia still struggling with 20 million nomads.

The problem that I have with many so called Somalilanders is that they are not visionary but emotional thinkers...like dumaarka...if her husband slaps her she hates him temporarily as soon as he apologizes she is on-board.

I am pan-Horn Africanist the most.

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:11 am
by Clown
Hawdian wrote:If it was up to me I do add Somaliland into Ethiopia...
Make a new account, your credibility on this account has just been reduced to nothing.

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:12 am
by SecretAgent
Ders no such thing as pan africanism ,pan arabism ,all that is dead we aint in da 60s any more beyonce said is all about independent

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:19 am
by Clown
SecretAgent wrote:Ders no such thing as pan africanism ,pan arabism ,all that is dead we aint in da 60s any more beyonce said is all about independent
Beyonce: defining post-modern contemporary thought

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:24 am
by Casanova25
Hawdian wrote:I rather have the Habesha highlanders than Hutu. Very simple choice guys. And I never advocate for Somaliland secession. It has two choices; reunite with the south and get itself a better deal including working with Puntland and moving the capital to Erigavo...or join Ethiopia with Somali Region...it doesn't become a region of Ethiopia but sort of like an Emirati state within Ethiopia with its own separate government but same currency and army....its own capital and government.

I believe in regional integration not dis-fracturing and Balkanization.

Somalis in Ethiopia are better off with the rest of the Ethiopian community, we have a market of 100 million people and diverse goods, services, culture, language, produce, markets, climate, etc.

We just need to work on human rights and more freedom.

There is no disintegration in my book.

If it was up to me I do add Somaliland into Ethiopia...they have to understand Ethiopia is their immediate neighbour, their interest, their main market and is more relevant than Mogadishu. If they can't get along with Mogadishu, they should enter voluntary neo-fuctionalism initiative and by this I mean cross-border co-operation between Somaliland and Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is the future and there is no point back-paddling it now. We already went through the difficult period. Now its just matter of twigging few things and sailing ahead.

After 30 years, Somalia will be very jealous and would wish it was part of by then 150 million market...Somalia still struggling with 20 million nomads.

The problem that I have with many so called Somalilanders is that they are not visionary but emotional thinkers...like dumaarka...if her husband slaps her she hates him temporarily as soon as he apologizes she is on-board.

I am pan-Horn Africanist the most.
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You was about to kill me laughing! first i will give u some credit! You are Honesty about, the way you feel and what u think! and brave because many somalis would never say Things like that in the open! war even in forum xataa!

why are the Habasha better then Hawiye????

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:25 am
by Hawdian
Clown wrote:
Hawdian wrote:If it was up to me I do add Somaliland into Ethiopia...
Make a new account, your credibility on this account has just been reduced to nothing.
Coming from a Hawiye. The word credibility is not even in their babyish Somali-wannabe language.

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:30 am
by Sophisticate
Hawdian don't interject tribe into this, however I actually think your Pan-Horn thinking is a step in the right direction. The unfortunate thing is our people "Somalis" are militaristically naive. With the erosion of the nation state and the interdependence of their economies it makes little sense to drive a wedge between neighbours. We must understand that even if we dislike Ethiopia the law of large numbers is in their favour. It is also a pluralistic nation with multiple ethnic groups. Ultimately if Ethiopia is doing well financially the horn will also prosper.Keep the emotions at bay when you have to think about financial interest(s).

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:10 am
by Casanova25
sophisticate wrote:Hawdian don't interject tribe into this, however I actually think your Pan-Horn thinking is a step in the right direction. The unfortunate thing is our people "Somalis" are militaristically naive. With the erosion of the nation state and the interdependence of their economies it makes little sense to drive a wedge between neighbours. We must understand that even if we dislike Ethiopia the law of large numbers is in their favour. It is also a pluralistic nation with multiple ethnic groups. Ultimately if Ethiopia is doing well financially the horn will also prosper.Keep the emotions at bay when you have to think about financial interest(s).
I don't know what u Guys are, but you are in a campaign for gumeysi to come on our lands!

And by that, i prefer death over joining Amxaaro, our forefathers enemy! subxallah!
i don'tknow what happend to you Guys! something have changed lately! i really do not understand what it is! but this is not the way somalis use to be!

Am interest in finding out what made you Guys think about joining ethiopia and amxaaro of all people! I Wonder what is the reason for it!

First it was funny, but now it actully makes me sad.. what makes somalis think like that!

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:22 am
by Sophisticate
Get over your past issues with them. For goodness sake Europeans i.e. French and English have eternally despised each other, but they are fine now. Get over your issue. First, Ethiopia's largest population are our distant relatives - the Oromo and half of the Habeshi are Muslim. Secondly, we are not forcing you to impregnate them, so chill. Thirdly, who said anything about taking over, they normally stay out of Somali-inhabited land. Stop living in history and letting your emotions get the best of you, get with the times. Use your God-given talents in commerce to do something that benefits your people "Somalis."

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:05 am
by Casanova25
sophisticate wrote:Get over your past issues with them. For goodness sake Europeans i.e. French and English have eternally despised each other, but they are fine now. Get over your issue. First, Ethiopia's largest population are our distant relatives - the Oromo and half of the Habeshi are Muslim. Secondly, we are not forcing you to impregnate them, so chill. Thirdly, who said anything about taking over, they normally stay out of Somali-inhabited land. Stop living in history and letting your emotions get the best of you, get with the times. Use your God-given talents in commerce to do something that benefits your people "Somalis."
wlhi you should be banned sister!
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Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:23 am
by Hawdian
sophisticate,

The people from Southern Somalia like the idea of feeling being needed. They love that. We are telling them Somali Region is integral part of Ethiopia and we no longer in 1977. You guys need to move on and worry about your batted banana republic which only exists on paper and old maps.

Ethiopia is going to expand into Somalia regions such as Somaliland and integration is already in early stages...for example education, trade and even militarily.

Ethiopia has already replaced Somalia in Somaliland region in many areas including fruit and vegetable markets, aviation (Ethiopian airlines no one knows Somali Airlines remains dead), etc etc...Admas university, Addis Ababa Medical College...

Somalia is not in a stage it should reoccupy itself with Somali Region to divert attention from its own miseries.

Re: About Western Somalia region (aka Ogadenia)

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:04 am
by InoCabdi
Hawdian wrote: Somalis in Ethiopia are better off with the rest of the Ethiopian community,

If it was up to me I do add Somaliland into Ethiopia...

Ethiopia is the future
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