The Habar Gidirization of Lower Shabelle

[Casanova25]

Casanova. Why do you care what a worthless Isaaq says/thinks? Ignore him dude. Don't derail this thread.

Ok i will let him go marka... you have saved him from a harsh karbaash

[Marques]

They way you treat your minorities is the best indicator on how barbaric or civilised that particular culture is. In Somaliland the minorities attain the highest office in the land, the presidents seat. Whilst in the Somalia they have everything taken of them by force. Makes me wonder have the people who scream with their alphabet internet based organisation thought through this looney idea or has hate really blinded them.

Sxb it's logically incorrect to compare the two since they are not parallels. Somalia is a recognized country, Somaliland is not. Just a breakaway region within Somalia. You can paint your faces green and red all day, you still note SOMALIA nationality on all your applications and your fellows board the plane from Hargeisa with a SOMALIA passport. I'd show a bit more respect to your birth country if i were you.

OP, there is a difference between the mainstream HG and the native Hawiye of LS. There are many HG families that have lived in LS for decades though the Cirfo militia are not residents and should be dealt with. As for the rest of the region, how can it be disputed when the first mention in Somali history pertained to a Hawiye deegaan in Marka and the surrounding villages, not once but twice mentioned in 2 seperate centuries?

[Kabriid]

Somaliland was never part of Somalia so your argument is illogical.

[Marques]

You're right. Somalia was part of Somaliland.

[Kabriid]

Incorrect..

Somaliland and Somalia became the Somali republic in July 1, 1960. Before that Somaliland was Somaliland and Somalia was Somalia.

Quit the nonsense.

[sahal80]

As for the rest of the region, how can it be disputed when the first mention in Somali history pertained to a Hawiye deegaan in Marka and the surrounding villages, not once but twice mentioned in 2 seperate centuries?

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The modern historians agree that these hawiyes who had 50 villages with merka being their capital were a pre-hawiyes like garre who are part of digil now.

[GIJaamac]

What the f*ck means Habar Gidirization of SH/Hoose ? Mid walba siduu neefka ayuu iska hadlaa.
Some HGs like my sub-clan of Saleebaan have lived + 300 years in SH/hoose and Jubbooyinka, so this new comers thing is kinda misleading information.
Sure most of HG came after 1960, but when you visit SH/hoose nobody thinks HG as guests. The NGOs, fruit exportation, biggest businesses are dominated by HG and Murusade.
But the majority in SH/hoose are Digil and Jareer, inkastoo iska masaakiin yahiin.
Marka ninkii ciil qabow ciil u dhimo. HG are here to stay. We ain't going nowhere

[STARKAST]

Someone should do a list of 100 things wrong with Hawiye and in turn Somalia. I would pay for that Food for thought.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

Hawiye minorities

How did Hawiye Arrive in the 90s? When Afgooye is an Wacdaan Cismaan town shared with rahanwein? Then we got the habar aji of ceyr who lived in the region for centuries, we got the harti abgaal from Tisxiile, the mudulood and murusade from Lafoole. Heck even half of my sub sub sub sub clan resides in shabellada hoose

Yeah there are mudulood like wacdaan osman and murusade but these are more found in the outskirts of afgooye...murursade country starts from the westren half of xamar like hawlwadaag, ex hodan wich includes dayniile and all the forests between balcard and afgooye, thus, they are deegaan to afgooye as caanooleey.

Mudulood our found between dharkeenleey and afgooye when of their towns is lafoole and were allied with the galadi state of ofgooye so they are deegaan too but the majority of gooye were digil like galadi, baajimaal, bagadi, jareer, the afgooye farmers and stunka people.

Anyways I wasn't talking about the native minorities and small villages, as for habar aji 70s families it was siyaad barre who brought them in sablaale wich is close to baraawe they were seen as walaalo until USC and hizpul islam arrived there.

Here are the old 7 districts

Afgoi District majority digil
Baraawe District digil
Kurtunwarey District digil
Qoriyoley District digil
Merca District biimaal iyo 12 koofi
Sablaale District digil
Walaweyn District digil
If its about villages
I can add awdheegle, balad amin, mareerey all of them are digil or dozens of biimaal villages like shalaambood

Lol @casanova shows his true colors!! I have no hg cuqdad, I'm stating the truth wich hurts!

I'm only againist the al baatil and care about the govts interests.

Your likes are the true enemies of the govt!!

Hawiye's live in deexda while the the others are beeraleey. Btw are you saying wacdaan cismaan aint the majority in the east side of Afgooye?

[abdikarim86]

Aren't they from Galmudug or something?

[AbdiJohnson]

Galmudug is Sacad Sicid land

South Mudug, Galgaduud is their land but Western Hiiraan, half of Mogadishu, Lower Shabelle and parts of Middle Shabelle are now HG lands in just two decades

HG are colonizing land grabbers.

I am,

Abdi "Someone Stop Them" Johnson

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Galmudug is Sacad Sicid land

South Mudug, Galgaduud is their land but Western Hiiraan, half of Mogadishu, Lower Shabelle and parts of Middle Shabelle are now HG lands in just two decades

HG are colonizing land grabbers.

I am,

Abdi "Someone Stop Them" Johnson

LOL aint no HGs in middle shabelle

[GIJaamac]

Galmudug is Sacad Sicid land

South Mudug, Galgaduud , Northern Hiiraan, half of Mogadishu, Lower Shabelle and parts of Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba are now HG lands.

I am,

Abdi "Someone Stop Them" Johnson

[Rabshoole]

The majority of lower shabeele are digil, hawiye arrived there in the 90s

Pre-90s

Before the civil war, lower shabeele was the second province after banaadir with most of districts-7 districts- all of them were except marka digil populations

Even the 12 koofi of marka are culturally related with the central banaadiri aka digil for example shimali ahmed shimali who is duruqba is from marka and he sings in af maay

Second clan was biimaal

Third clan were cadcads.

Hawiye minorities

I've told you before, nothing you state is ever factual, you come from a clan that has been karbashed more than once in Hiiraan by Surre. It would only make sense for you to hold some sort of grudge against waxii Dir la yidhaahdo bah Continue making up bullshidh while we the Surre continue demonstrating what a joke of an administration Hiiraan is by beating your ass in Baladweyne

April 5, 2013 | Filed under: Wararka Somalia |

Dagaal culus ayaa kadhacay deegaanada ku teedsan degmada kabxanleey ee gobolka hiiraan kasoo ay fooda isku dareen labo maleeshiyo beeleed wada dagan gobolka hiiraan.

sida ay wararku xaqiijinayaa dagalku waxaa kugeeriyooday hal qof 8kalena wey ku dhawacmeen oo isugu jira labadii qabiil ay kudagaalamay gobolka, dagaalkaan ayaa salka kuhaye beeraha kuteedsan degmada kabxanleey ilaa inta udhaxeysa degmada baladweyne.

maleeshiyadi dagaalantay aytaa wali iskku horfadhiya aagaga hore ee dagaalka mana jirto cid ilaa iyo hada soo kala dhaxgashay ama baaq nabadeen udirey beelaha walaaha ku dagaalamaya gobolka hiiran.

sanadkii hore ayay ahayd mar sidaan ookale ay ugu dagaalameen beelahaan ood wadaga ahi Surre iyo xawaadle ee wada dagan gobolka hiraan.

[Peroxide]

Galmudug is Sacad Sicid land

South Mudug, Galgaduud is their land but Western Hiiraan, half of Mogadishu, Lower Shabelle and parts of Middle Shabelle are now HG lands in just two decades

HG are colonizing land grabbers.

I am,

Abdi "Someone Stop Them" Johnson

You are looking at this the wrong way. Somalis have always been expansionists and have been expanding southwards until the British stopped them. This is just a manifestation of their destiny. If Kenya were ever to fall, then God help all those people who border the Somalis.