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Re: This could've been us but Somalis play too much

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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Who gives a fuck about fauna and flora. It's about strategy and economics. If Somalis have Soqotra and Djibouti we control the Bab al Mandeb and vital red sea trade route.
Good luck fighting NATO forces. LOL.

Invading Djibouti = by default invading France
Invading Socotra = by default invading Saudi Arabia

The Ogaden and NFD are easier targets.
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Invading Socotra does not mean invading Saudi Arabia. Relax son. Somalia loses the diplomatic game the second it attempts resolve disputes through armed means especially if it's claim/stance is weak. Secondly even if Somalia damages its relations with the Saudis there isnt shit they can do. Hell if i was asked to run Somalia i could make it more powerful than Saudi Arabia in less than 20 years. Saudi Arabia has no real military power, its forces are not trained, its jets are inoperable by its pilots whom only exist for show (unless they use pakistanis to mann them). UAE alone could invade and shit on Saudi Arabias army if it so willed as it actually has something you could call a real army lol.
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LooL ur delusional. KSA spends way more on defense than the rest of the Arab world combined. And not only that, they also get first dips in American defense tech before it's sold to any one else.
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Estarix wrote:Invading Socotra does not mean invading Saudi Arabia. Relax son. Somalia loses the diplomatic game the second it attempts resolve disputes through armed means especially if it's claim/stance is weak. Secondly even if Somalia damages its relations with the Saudis there isnt shit they can do. Hell if i was asked to run Somalia i could make it more powerful than Saudi Arabia in less than 20 years. Saudi Arabia has no military power, its forces are not trained, its jets are inoperable (unless they use pakistanis). UAE alone could shit on that country if it so willed whose armed forces are more drilled.
Yemen has all sorts of special treaties with the GCC countries and is poised to join them in the coming years. You do not realize how weak Somalia's economy is. The GCC countries could totally crash Somalia's pathetic economy.
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The Arabs banned import of Somaliland livestock in the 2000s and Somaliland managed to survived well. If Somalia loses the Arab market it could simply look elsewhere and get far more than it currently gets. The Arabs are absolutely robbing the skinnies as they are getting a poor return for what the animals are worth. As for aid, your making a big deal out of the chump change they give the people every now and then lol.
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GAMES wrote:LooL ur delusional. KSA spends way more on defense than the rest of the Arab world combined. And not only that, they also get first dips in American defense tech before it's sold to any one else.
You are an idiot. Saudi arabia buys all that hi-tech equipment as a favour for America and the E.U. You could build a better army and airforce than Saudi Arabia in less than 10 years simply from buying and equiping yourself with black market hard-ware from Russia and China. And Saudi arabia doesn't give a fuck about Soqotra even if it had the power to stop us. An ill-equiped ragtag houthi army has been terrorising them for decades.

The real threats to Somalis are other Somalis and of course Djibouti and Saudis Western boyfriends.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
GAMES wrote:LooL ur delusional. KSA spends way more on defense than the rest of the Arab world combined. And not only that, they also get first dips in American defense tech before it's sold to any one else.
You are an idiot. Saudi arabia buys all that hi-tech equipment as a favour for America and the E.U. You could build a better army and airforce than Saudi Arabia in less than 10 years simply from buying and equiping yourself with black market hard-ware from Russia and China. And Saudi arabia doesn't give a fuck about Soqotra even if it had the power to stop us. An ill-equiped ragtag houthi army has been terrorising them for decades.

The real threats to Somalis are other Somalis and of course Djibouti and Saudis Western boyfriends.
Nah ur wrong sxb. Western Defense technology has been proven to be way more superior than anything the east has.

Look at Israel and it's wars with the Arabs who had Russian planes. Look at Sadam Hussein and Iraq also.

Sure western tech is more expensive than Russian or Chinese, but they are more superior .
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GAMES wrote:LooL ur delusional. KSA spends way more on defense than the rest of the Arab world combined. And not only that, they also get first dips in American defense tech before it's sold to any one else.
Its useless if they do not know how to operate it. The technology there is all for show.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:I don't know why you guys are talking about oromo lands and yemeni lands etc. These people have come to our lands throughout history, so I don't know why you are hesitant about claiming theirs. At the end of the day, the land belongs to the people who are able to take and protect it. If I had the power I would take back not just K5 but Oromia, the danakil all the way upto and including teh simien mountains.

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Itrah wrote:That map is fake as fuck.

Socotris are not Somalis.

Afars are not Somalis.

Jareers in the riverine area are not Somalis.

Dire Dawa/Harar is mostly Oromo.

Lamu is Swahili.
I can't speak for Socotra: I've never been there. But I've been to Dir Dhabe and it 110% belongs to Somalis. Naturally, since it's Ethiopia's second most important city, there are lots of non-Somalis who live there. Laakin waa magaalo Somaaliyeed (just look at the name). Qabiil walba waana laga helaa: there are Isaaq, Ciise, Ogadeen, Xawaadle and Sheekhaal there (I may have missed some), pretty Somali if you ask me. Another thing, people often confuse Gurgure and Guraage. There are lots of Gurgure (who are Dir and therefore 100% Somali) who live there, there are also lots of Gurage (I think they claim to be their own ethnic group with their own language) who live there.

But you're right about cities like Harar and Baraawa, there are not "Somali" cities per se, but what would you rather have done? Independent enclaves within Somalia left and right? And how about Xamarweeyne and Shangaani in Mogadishu? Are we going to split our capital into different tiny enclaves between Somali and Reer Xamar?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with longing for a greater Somalia.
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Based wrote:
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:I don't know why you guys are talking about oromo lands and yemeni lands etc. These people have come to our lands throughout history, so I don't know why you are hesitant about claiming theirs. At the end of the day, the land belongs to the people who are able to take and protect it. If I had the power I would take back not just K5 but Oromia, the danakil all the way upto and including teh simien mountains.

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In an ideal world this would be a no brainer.
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Re: This could've been us but Somalis play too much

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In an ideal world, Somalia's average IQ would be higher than room temperature but hadalkaa inoo kaadi sxb, qolomaa tahay and fuck your ancestor.
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Re: This could've been us but Somalis play too much

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Based wrote:In an ideal world, Somalia's average IQ would be higher than room temperature but hadalkaa inoo kaadi sxb, qolomaa tahay and fuck your ancestor.
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Based wrote:
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:I don't know why you guys are talking about oromo lands and yemeni lands etc. These people have come to our lands throughout history, so I don't know why you are hesitant about claiming theirs. At the end of the day, the land belongs to the people who are able to take and protect it. If I had the power I would take back not just K5 but Oromia, the danakil all the way upto and including teh simien mountains.

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One day :D
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