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Re: My Stance,

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jalaaludin5 wrote:
There is a technique. Its called permanent ban for those that cross the line.
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I Jalaaludin Bulaale apologise for the insult. :meles:


jalaaludin5 -

:snoop:

There is no such thing as banning. So called "banning" just slows the process down. These people will still be here regardless but now they will be in the closet.



I accept your apology


Anyways,
I think this discussion will go in circles. So I will drop it. I believe in more open door policy then you guys do. where I draw the line is different then yours. Maybe your line will change maybe it won't. Whatever the case somalinet will remain the same for now
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SimplySerene wrote:
SolidCamel wrote:I'm saying you won't find an open door policy any where. Why would you want a place like that anyway? Don't you agree some boundaries should exist?

Yes I believe in boundaries. Like If someone posted child porongraphy. I want them banned and police to catch them
You said you want them killed, I saw that :whoa:
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SolidCamel - I changed my mind . I will let the police deal with that
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SolidCamel wrote:
SimplySerene wrote:
SolidCamel wrote:I'm saying you won't find an open door policy any where. Why would you want a place like that anyway? Don't you agree some boundaries should exist?

Yes I believe in boundaries. Like If someone posted child porongraphy. I want them banned and police to catch them
You said you want them killed, I saw that :whoa:
SimplySerene wrote:SolidCamel - I changed my mind . I will let the police deal with that
:lol: :lol: walaahi si daacad ah baad iiga qoslisay

Bless you sister. :pac:

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jalaaludin5 - There is a reason I deleted that comment. I was bit hasty and rushed it
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SimplySerene,

Did you know the Prophet SAW ordered the assasination of a Jewish poet who use to insult him ? He did not tolerate grevious insults against his honour and nor should we Muslims. Your open door policy diatribe is garbage thinking and illogical
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grandpakhalif wrote:SimplySerene,

Did you know the Prophet SAW ordered the assasination of a Jewish poet who use to insult him ? He did not tolerate grevious insults against his honour and nor should we Muslims. Your open door policy diatribe is garbage thinking and illogical


Honestly I don't know if what you are saying is true.
IF it is true Things are different now. We have the internet. I want to utilize the different options and different techniques. I AM ALLOWED TO SUGGEST that. And guess what you are allowed to oppose it

I will post my so called "garbage thinking" whenever the heck I please. What are you going to do about it grandpakhalif ? What are you going to do?
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grandpakhalif wrote:SimplySerene,

Did you know the Prophet SAW ordered the assasination of a Jewish poet who use to insult him ? He did not tolerate grevious insults against his honour and nor should we Muslims. Your open door policy diatribe is garbage thinking and illogical
This is true. Muhammad ordered the killing of several people for no other reason other than insulting him. A true role model. An ideal to strive towards.
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grandpakhalif wrote:SimplySerene,

Did you know the Prophet SAW ordered the assasination of a Jewish poet who use to insult him ? He did not tolerate grevious insults against his honour and nor should we Muslims. Your open door policy diatribe is garbage thinking and illogical
He was ordered to be killed due to plotting to kill the Prophet (SAW) during the treaty of Hubaidyah. Since he was living in Medina, he wsa ordered to be killed. It wasn't due to insulting poetry.

There was a Jewish man who mocked the Prophet (SAW) constantly (as a test, since his scripture said a Prophet would come who would be kind in the face of hatred). Omar (RA) was furious and demanded to kill the man. The Prophet (SAW) scolded Omar and told him to send a gift to the Jewish man. Omar reluctantly did, however the Jewish man was impressed and later accepted Islam.
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mclovin wrote:
grandpakhalif wrote:SimplySerene,

Did you know the Prophet SAW ordered the assasination of a Jewish poet who use to insult him ? He did not tolerate grevious insults against his honour and nor should we Muslims. Your open door policy diatribe is garbage thinking and illogical
This is true. Muhammad ordered the killing of several people for no other reason other than insulting him. A true role model. An ideal to strive towards.
Give me the wiki islam list bruh :pac: :troll:
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Here's the proof
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?" He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka'b) and said, "This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity." Ka'b replied, "By Allah, you will get tired of him." Muhammad said to him, "We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair." Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270

I don't know why your trying to deny it!
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Idman702 wrote:Oh come on serene. So if someone insults our Prophet scw, we should let them bash the prophet freely and don't do anything, what kind of logic is that? At the end of the day this is a somali forum, and last time I checked majority of Somalis are muslim. Like I said previously, I will not tolerate someone bad mouthing Allah swt, my prophet scw and my religion. So no they will not bash what's sacred to me freely.


P.s

How dare you compare bantu, hargeisa to our beloved prophet scw.


Are you muslim? Do you pray 5 times a day? I am not attacking you, but for a Muslim person you surely don't care anything about Islam.
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Re: My Stance,

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grandpakhalif

There is something quiet distasteful about your attitude and the manner you try to speak up for the Deen.
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I can't put my finger to it but as soon as I figure that out, I'll let you know.
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Re: My Stance,

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SolidCamel wrote: Give me the wiki islam list bruh :pac: :troll:
Even better, I'll give you the actual hadith to read for yourself.

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Who is willing to kill Ka`b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka`b). "The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You may say it."...

Sahih al-Bukhari 4037

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/84
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (ﷺ) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (ﷺ) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: Messenger of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4361

http://sunnah.com/abudawud/40/11
It has been narrated by Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) who said:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was lying postrate in prayer and around him were some people from the Quraish, 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait brought the foetus of a she-camel and threw it on the back of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). He did not raise his head until Fatima arrived, removed it from his back and cured him who had done that (ugly act). He said: O Allah, it is for Thee to deal with the chiefs of the Quraish. Abu Jahl b. Hisham, 'Utba b. Rabi'a. Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, Shaiba b. Rabi'a, Umayya b. Khalaf or Ubayy b. Khalaf (Shu'ba, one of the narrator of this tradition is in doubt about the exact person). I saw that all were slain in the Battle of Badr and their dead bodies were thrown into a well, except that of Umayya or Ubayy which was cut into pieces and was thrown into the well.

Sahih Muslim 1794

http://sunnah.com/muslim/32/132
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Re: My Stance,

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I already explained the first the hadith, its well documented. Now I'll give you some homework, contextualize the 2nd one.
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