The Socotra Archipelago Island - "A Refueling Station for Somali Pirates?"

[Somaliman%]

You can't speak for all somalis. My nephew's look just like that. Why you act like you know every somali person. You don't and we not all jareer looking.

Hey fag,

Here is a DNA study on the Socotri, they are NOT related to Somalis:

''Out of Arabia—The settlement of Island Soqotra as revealed by mitochondrial and Y chromosome genetic diversity''

Abstract

The Soqotra archipelago is one of the most isolated landmasses in the world, situated at the mouth of the Gulf of Aden between the Horn of Africa and southern Arabia. The main island of Soqotra lies not far from the proposed southern migration route of anatomically modern humans out of Africa ∼60,000 years ago (kya), suggesting the island may harbor traces of that first dispersal. Nothing is known about the timing and origin of the first Soqotri settlers. The oldest historical visitors to the island in the 15th century reported only the presence of an ancient population. We collected samples throughout the island and analyzed mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomal variation. We found little African influence among the indigenous people of the island. Although the island population likely experienced founder effects, links to the Arabian Peninsula or southwestern Asia can still be found. In comparison with datasets from neighboring regions, the Soqotri population shows evidence of long-term isolation and autochthonous evolution of several mitochondrial haplogroups. Specifically, we identified two high-frequency founder lineages that have not been detected in any other populations and classified them as a new R0a1a1 subclade. Recent expansion of the novel lineages is consistent with a Holocene settlement of the island ∼6 kya. Am J Phys Anthropol, 2009. © 2008 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 0/abstract

Listen IFRAH I keep telling you just because your family is dhuxul with jareer features don't mean we all look like that. Your families look isn't the norm okey!

[Itrah]

Listen IFRAH I keep telling you just because your family is dhuxul with jareer features don't mean we all look like that. Your families look isn't the norm okey!

What is your obsession with the Jareer? Did I say Somalis look Jareer? NO.. Low IQ moron, I said Somalis look DIFFERENT from the Socotri and can be easily identified.

Anyhow, go look for you daddy somewhere else. The Socotri are NOT YOUR PEOPLE. They are ARABIAN.

[Somaliman%]

Listen IFRAH I keep telling you just because your family is dhuxul with jareer features don't mean we all look like that. Your families look isn't the norm okey!

What is your obsession with the Jareer? Did I say Somalis look Jareer? NO.. Low IQ moron, I said Somalis look DIFFERENT from the Socotri and can be easily identified.

Anyhow, go look for you daddy somewhere else. The Socotri are NOT YOUR PEOPLE. They are ARABIAN.

Ifrah is mad now

[Itrah]

Ifrah is mad now

Dirty homo, get lost. Bantu Cusmaan Maxamuud, the shame of Puntland.

[Somaliman%]

Ifrah is mad now

Dirty homo, get lost. Bantu Cusmaan Maxamuud, the shame of Puntland.

You can't even diss what is low iq moron or get lost. War siida iisu dhan ninyahow. Cisman maxamoud are your kings Neil before them. Shegaato

[Itrah]

You can't even diss what is low iq moron or get lost. War siida iisu dhan ninyahow. Cisman maxamoud are your kings Neil before them. Shegaato

Bantu foqol Bantu... Everybody knows that Cisman Maxamuud are Jareer as fuck. It's a very common stereotype.

I am reer Bari but so happy that I am 0% Cisman Maxamuud.... My ancestors avoided you Jareers like the plague.

[Somaliman%]

You can't even diss what is low iq moron or get lost. War siida iisu dhan ninyahow. Cisman maxamoud are your kings Neil before them. Shegaato

Bantu foqol Bantu... Everybody knows that Cisman Maxamuud are Jareer as fuck. It's a very common stereotype.

I am reer Bari but so happy that I am 0% Cisman Maxamuud.... My ancestors avoided you Jareers like the plague.

Shegaato your not mj. No real MJ will diss another mj publicly. Your either a fake or one of those minorities that leave near us.

[Itrah]

Shegaato your not mj. No real MJ will diss another mj publicly. Your either a fake or one of those minorities that leave near us.

I am not Mj, but HARTI... The natives of Bari are pure Somali unlike you fufu mixing Cismaan Maxamuuds with flat noses.

[Somaliman%]

Shegaato your not mj. No real MJ will diss another mj publicly. Your either a fake or one of those minorities that leave near us.

I am not Mj, but HARTI... The natives of Bari are pure Somali unlike you fufu mixing Cismaan Maxamuuds with flat noses.

You are the miskin minorities time we kicked you midgans out of Bari. You are so tiny that you run to the umbrella of hartinimo. War tell us what it is? Your insignificant minority clan that failed to reproduce your lot are smaller than a sub sub sub of cisman maxamoud.

[Itrah]

You are the miskin minorities time we kicked you midgans out of Bari. You are so tiny that you run to the umbrella of hartinimo. War tell us what it is? Your insignificant minority clan that failed to reproduce your lot are smaller than a sub sub sub of cisman maxamoud.

At least we didn't add Bantus to our clan to boost our numbers. Eternal shame of Puntland.

I'll make sure none of my children ever marry a Fufu Cismaan Maxamuud to keep the bloodline pure.

[TheCadaanGuy]

Yemen being in civil war, I think now is good time to take over that island.

Do we agree?

Nah maybe 10-20 years lets just hope there civil never ends for 20+ years so we can take advantage
edit: I just took a look at there military equipments it shits on the Ethiopians amy

Looked at military stats,



I think military take over is off the table. Just dump few thousand Somalis on there. With 10 kids from each family, within 20 years, there'll be more Somalis than Yemenis.

[sahal80]

meheri somalis in puntland.

War idiot I was talking about the ethnic Socotri, not these immigrants from Somalia:

Ethnic Socotri are not Somali at all. Stop claiming them:







^^ Clearly Arabian, not Somali.

The last 2 kids look somali..

could be due to them carrying some indian gene-flow (m30 mtd), wich is common in hadramout, some may have a honer gene-flow like the rulers of sharija who are originally from oman (abukar zubair uses them as proof for bani hashim haplogroup lol)

Mahra are two classes; fishers and....this group has been absorbed by whatever mostly south indians.. they dont have the same hair type, skin tone and features

[gegiroor]

Folks, my understanding of Socotrans is, they speak a distinctive language, called Soqotri language, that is an ancient Semitic language. The current speakers of Arabic would have to learn this language, the same way we would. Whatever the case, we need more research of the Soqotri language, its relation to Somali language, and population make-up of this island. Keep in mind this island hosts its own indigenous population that warrants its own DNA study as well.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 16499.html

Socotri is the most archaic and isolated of several archaic and isolated tongues spoken in Yemen and Oman known as "modern South Arabian languages". Its vocabulary is immensely rich - for example, there are distinct verbs for "to go" according to the time of the day, or for "to give birth" depending on the animal involved.

Socotri's roots are close to the oldest written Semitic tongues that died out thousands of years ago - and it has grammatical features that no longer exist in Arabic, Hebrew or Aramaic. The study of Socotri helps understand the deep, prehistoric past - and the subsequent evolution - of all Semitic tongues.

"This is a very archaic linguistic and literary system that in many ways, I think, has preserved what we, the scholars, are used to perceive as the Biblical world or the ancient Arabic world," Leonid Kogan, professor of Semitic languages at Moscow's Institute for Oriental and Classical Studies, told Al Jazeera.

South Yemen separatists
"All of it is very much alive on today's Socotra."

A neglected tongue

Driven by greed, curiosity, and monsoon winds, countless sailors and merchants have for centuries passed through Socotra, a major trading hub between the Gulf of Aden and the Horn of Africa.

But the language of its inhabitants - fishermen, semi-nomadic herders, and date-palm growers - remained off scholars' radar.
Medieval Arab travellers who reached the distant corners of Europe, Indonesia, and sub-Saharan Africa - describing dozens of ethnic groups and the tongues they spoke - wrote next to nothing about Socotri and its linguistic siblings, although they realised the radical difference of the language from Arabic and its tantalising complexity.

"Despite historical contacts and a common culture, there is no mutual understanding between native speakers of Arabic and native speakers of any" modern South Arabic languages, wrote Marie-Claude Simeone-Senelle, a French expert on Socotran folklore.

Western linguists "discovered" Socotri in the early 19th century, and thought the Biblical Queen of Sheba (the Quranic Bilqis) spoke it.

Austrian orientalist David Heinrich Muller used the Arabic script to write down several examples of their oral poetry in 1889, but modern Socotrans have trouble understanding them now.

Roots and ties

Although the Socotri language was isolated, the folklore was not. Some of its themes are similar to those found among Algerian Berbers, in India, Africa, and Europe.

"There is an absolutely obscene plot that has distinct parallels with the Dravidian [folklore] of Middle India and [the speakers of] Mofo-Gudur near Lake Chad," Yuri Berezkin, professor of anthropology at the European University in St Petersburg, told Al Jazeera.

"This could be traced to early Asian-African contacts of the 2nd-1st millennia BC, but could be later."

But more importantly, it still retains some themes that date back to the dawn of human civilisation and religions in the Middle East.

"Socotran folklore helps understand many themes, literary features of written ancient Semitic traditions - the Old Testament, Ugaritic epics, and even Assyro-Babylonian, Mesopotamian literature," Kogan said. "And vice versa, a trained philologist acquainted with those traditions is capable to see the world of Socotra from a completely different, unexpected angle."

Arabisation or synthesis?
Socotra, dubbed by some as "the Indian Ocean's Galapagos", is famed for its landscapes, blood trees, plants that produce frankincense, and hundreds of endemic life forms - some of which face extinction.
Socotri is just as endemic - but is it endangered?

After the fall of the pro-Soviet government and Yemen's reunification in 1990, the southerners were reintroduced to Islam, largely thanks to neighbouring Saudi Arabia. Socotrans were especially zealous to learn proper Islamic practi[c]es - and overcome the stigma of a "backwards" people, Kogan said.

But the Islamisation did not bring about Arabisation, something that has been happening in the Middle East for centuries with the gradual conversion of those who spoke Aramaic, Coptic, and Berber languages.

Socotrans do adopt political, technical, and religious terms from Arabic, but their language stands strong.

"What we are able to see now is a rather harmonious synthesis, and there are good chances that Socotra and Socotris find their appropriate place in a broad Arab and Islamic context without getting rid of most of their - to be sure, highly esteemed and cherished - traditional values," said Kogan.