grandpakhalif wrote:Do you think Russian troops can touch NATO Turkish Planes who are flying missions all over Nothern Syria against PKK and ISIL targets.
did you forget Turkey has US supplied Patriot Missiles directed at Moscow
Its checkmate for Putin and now he has to leave the poor Turkmen alone when he attempted Grozny style takeover
Yes if its just turkish planes then they are outmatched technologically,
it would be no contest for the SU-30 and 34 facing Turkish F-16's, you would need 2 f-16's for every Su-30 to make it a challenge,
and 3 or more against each Su-30 to make sure you win.
as patriot missles?? they are out of context, did you just google S-400 and look at what wikipedia said were the equivalants?
they are not the same, the patriot is of a generation behind the S-300 series, and cannot be used offensively because of its low range and capabilities.
ITs a defensive weapon, against aircraft and cruise missles, and not very good at that either.
While the S-400 is 400KM miminum it can be used offensively.
Why do you think there is a joint agreement for communication between the ISrealis and the Russians?
The Russians had to make sure the Isrealis are not worried, they will not be targetted. Why go to all this trouble?
Its because the S-400 system can hit any plane taking off from any airfield in Isreal, any , even the S-300 can do this but you have to move it to the golan border. The S-400 from Kuweiris and Tartus can do it from there.
It can also be used as a Surface to Surface missle, thats what i meant by hitting any plane taking off from any airfield..
We are talking about an entire generation ahead of the patriot, why do you think Erdogan went out of his way to try to Buy the HQ-9 system from China? Its china's less capable copy of the S-300 system. The HQ-9 is so much better than the patriot that is leased from the Americans.
As ususal the US forced erdogan to cancel the purchase, even after the agreement was signed..
The US is good at somethings and terrible at other things, Air defence missiles, and missiles in general even ballastic missiles and Space launch vehicles are crap. The European Aster system by france, italy and UK is far superior to anything the US has..
The Russians are behind in processor and chipset technology, but are upto date with Solid state electronics, and are ahead of the rest of the world in high energy Physics,like plasma, they were practically alone in the field of hydrodynamics till the 80's,
and are ahead in electronic warfare.
