Maxa ka maqan ee aan la ogayn?

[hangool79]

I dont mean to inflame this debbate (everyone knows where I stand about the Saaxil-problem) but I'm amazed by how much dirt HJ can accept, Ceel Garde is a HJ deegan and you're being told off by CM not to develop your own land ???

That is complete nonsense,CM didnt deny HJ or any other tribe to invest in their own degans, as far as I know there was a fall out between deero businessman and the government because they cut him out from the allocated licensed companies to take over the fuel tanks in berbera oil terminal,hence him and with support of some officials related to him started a public compaign to get him the license back or he will make his own rival port against berbera.

Since when did Somaliland become an african north korea?? rival port?? it should be up the business to decide whether a second port is economically viable or not, not CM or any other clan, even worse this was just a small harbour not even a port.

[jalaaludin5]

^sounds fair to me eye for eye.

an eye for an eye will lead to a blind lali led with a leash by a guide dog called Hailemariam
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[JSL3000]

^sounds fair to me eye for eye.

an eye for an eye will lead to a blind lali led with a leash by a guide dog called Hailemariam
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Just stick to djbooty cumar Ismael doing his tenth caleemo saar today.

[ramzy2277]

Since when did Somaliland become an african north korea?? rival port?? it should be up the business to decide whether a second port is economically viable or not, not CM or any other clan, even worse this was just a small harbour not even a port.

Excatly, so the real question is not why this clan make opposes another clan to build a port on their land but rather,did any clan or businessman get approval from the municipal and the government first.!?. the answer is NO. so instead of analyzing the reaction,lets focus on the real action that triggered the whole thing,keep in mind that reer saaxil were reaching out for the government to intervene to stop the UNAUTHORIZED construction of a new commercial ( not for fishing) port just 25 km from the country's main commercial port.

[CaynabaX]

They would never dare arrest muj. dhagoweyne the whole saaxil will be on fire a rogue state would be formed.

Their little boy Ramaax Cali Hayste was arrested so many times shipped from Saaxil to Awdal and they couldnt do a fuck about that.. Dhegaweyne yara khafiifay maxaad u haysata?

[caadani90]

I dont mean to inflame this debbate (everyone knows where I stand about the Saaxil-problem) but I'm amazed by how much dirt HJ can accept, Ceel Garde is a HJ deegan and you're being told off by CM not to develop your own land ???

That is complete nonsense,CM didnt deny HJ or any other tribe to invest in their own degans, as far as I know there was a fall out between deero businessman and the government because they cut him out from the allocated licensed companies to take over the fuel tanks in berbera oil terminal,hence him and with support of some officials related to him started a public compaign to get him the license back or he will make his own rival port against berbera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTDlRgJjWHg

Ramzy, Deero has nothing to do with the port. The small fishing port is being developed by Ahmed Farah business men and his sub clan reer yoonis or the hassan dahir have nothing to do with this port.

As you can see from the video you posted Muuse Cabdale are even complaining about CM actions in Berbera.

Hangool, la kala biqimayo ee Somaliland ba loo kala lixijeeclo badanyahay.

[hangool79]

I've got nothing against CM they are good folks, but this madness must end sooner or later. We cant have 1 clan holding hostage the entire country for development just because they lack the money to do something themselves.

The building of a small fishing port or harbour belongs in a local city council to be decided, more precisely the inhabitants of Ceel Garde not on bloody government level or high court this is pure qabyald.

[jalaaludin5]

This isn't the first he disses silaanyo, salebaan gaal and warancade and kulmiye all the time.

Thus him dissing salebaan gaal.
https://youtu.be/4gGyqYgANxY

This him dissing warancade.
https://youtu.be/ggQyUxQxwoI

This him dissing silaanyo and warancade.
https://youtu.be/ZZz7wba3HRs

@dissing dissing dissing

His not a bad disser compare to a Tourette syndrome sufferer.
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[Lancer]

Anyone inciting violence against the state should be be arrested, tried in court, and locked up in Mandheera. SNM Mujahid, Sheikh, Imaam, Suldaan etc, doesn't matter what status you hold, nobody should be able to say shit like this and get away with it.

[CaynabaX]

I've got nothing against CM they are good folks, but this madness must end sooner or later. We cant have 1 clan holding hostage the entire country for development just because they lack the money to do something themselves.

The building of a small fishing port or harbour belongs in a local city council to be decided, more precisely the inhabitants of Ceel Garde not on bloody government level or high court this is pure qabyald.

Kawaran hadaan ku idhaa anigoo nin HJ ah, adigoo nin Ciidagale ah degaanka Toon ceel ka qodan maysid? You continued digging your well. I killed a high ranking Ciidagale military officer. Just because I'm against you developing your region. Can you see how munaafaq this little clan became after ina Cigaal gave them Saaxil? Its not just this port, warshadka shibidhka, haamaha shiidaalka waxay leeyihiin anagaa leh. oo cirkana maad leedihiin?

[ramzy2277]

I dont mean to inflame this debbate (everyone knows where I stand about the Saaxil-problem) but I'm amazed by how much dirt HJ can accept, Ceel Garde is a HJ deegan and you're being told off by CM not to develop your own land ???

That is complete nonsense,CM didnt deny HJ or any other tribe to invest in their own degans, as far as I know there was a fall out between deero businessman and the government because they cut him out from the allocated licensed companies to take over the fuel tanks in berbera oil terminal,hence him and with support of some officials related to him started a public compaign to get him the license back or he will make his own rival port against berbera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTDlRgJjWHg

Ramzy, Deero has nothing to do with the port. The small fishing port is being developed by Ahmed Farah business men and his sub clan reer yoonis or the hassan dahir have nothing to do with this port.

As you can see from the video you posted Muuse Cabdale are even complaining about CM actions in Berbera.

Hangool, la kala biqimayo ee Somaliland ba loo kala lixijeeclo badanyahay.

lool@Fishing port, and since when geeljire sold their camels and transformed into fishermen..!!, sxb, I believe the fishery ministry is doing a good job in xiis iyo meydh I never heard their community awarness reached ceel gerde.. .

as for deero, read this :

BURCO laba kamid ah ganacsatada reer somaliland kuwooda ugu Caansan Mustafe Indho-deero, Mulkiilaha shirkadda Baabuurta ee Shaybe Motor iyo Wasiirka hawlaha guud iyo guryeynta Somaliland Cali Mareexaan ayaa ka badheedhay taageero sharci daro ah oo lagu duminaayo Somaliland.
Burco(Xogreebnews)-laba kamid ah ganacsatada reer somaliland kuwooda ugu Caansan Mustafe Indho-deero, Mulkiilaha shirkadda Baabuurta ee Shaybe Motor iyo Wasiirka hawlaha guud iyo guryeynta Somaliland Cali Mareexaan ayaa ka badheedhay taageero sharci daro ah oo lagu duminaayo Somaliland. ma jiro war si rasmiya ah uga soo baxay shaqsiyaadka, hase-yeeshee Warar laga helay deegaanada Bariga Burco ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay hub iyo Ciidan Beeleed kasoo daabulayaan deegaanada Caynaba iyo Ceel-afweyn.

Waxana Wararku intaa ku dareen in labada ganacsade ee kala ah Mustafe Indha-deero iyo shaybe Motors ay maalgelinta Dekedda qayb lexaadleh ka ahaayeen markii hore, iyagoo imikana soo hubeynta beeshooda kaalin weyn kaga jiraan. Sidoo kale, wasiir Cali Mareexaan ayaa isagu noqday masuul dawladeed oo si toos ah ugu xuubsiibtay inuu ku milmo dan beeleed, isla markaana hormuud ka noqday Deked sharci darro ah oo laga macmalaayo duleedka Marsada weyn ee Berbera.

Wasiir Cali Mareexaan ayaa dhaqaale ku bixiyey soo abaabula Odayaal ka hadla Warbaahinta iyo inuu Wiilal yaryar oo Beeshiisa ah, u sameeyo Warbaahin kuwaasoo maalin walba cay iyo aflaado qaawan ku haya shaqsiyaad biri-mageydo ah. Shaqsiyaadka calooshooda u shaqeystayaash ah ee uu Wasiir Cali Mareexan adeegsaday waxa laga xusey, nin sheegta inuu Boqor uu yahay Beesha Bariga Burco oo lagu magacaabo Buur-madow, oo dhowaan beesha uu kasoo jeedo ugu baaqay dagaal ay kusoo qaadan dadka ku nool deeganka Saaxil.

Geesta kale, xukuumadda somaliland ayaan weli wax ficil ah oo la taaban karo oo lagaga hortagaayo dhaqdhaqaaqyada beeleysan ee Beesha madaxweyne siilaanyo waddo lagu baajiyo, iyadoo ay jiraan tuhuno la xidhiidha in madaxweyne siilaanyo laftiisu uu qayb ka yahay Dekedda Xinka ah ee laga macmalaayo duleedka Berbera.

Si kastaba aha ahaatee, labada ganacsato iyo wasiirkan ayey tallaabada la sheegay inay farraha kula jiraan ay sumcadooda hoos u dhigi doonta hadii ay ka laaban waayana, waxa dhici kartaa in Bulshada somaliland aanay ganacsatadana waxba ka ibin, sidoo kalena wasiirkana laftiisa ayey arrintani ka dhigeysaa mid qabiil oo aan gaadhin heer qaran, waxana loo baahan yahay inuu madaxweyne siilaanyo ku sameeyo baadhis, oo hadii lagu helo danbi xilka laga qaado oo maxkamad la saaro dagaal oognimo.

This is the official response from SLND governmet on the construction of Ceel gerde and the events happened there before the killings of the officer caseyr, AUN,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y_Yslzb_IE

As for the odayasha HY in that video, well u r going to far with this CM cadawad, if u listen carefully they were talking about their own tribesmen who lost official posts, CM cant replace wasiiro iyo ambassadors..however the caaqil at the end made it clear that they were targeted because they are of the same beesha of Cirro ,the presidential candidate of wadani.,i,e .

[ramzy2277]

I've got nothing against CM they are good folks, but this madness must end sooner or later. We cant have 1 clan holding hostage the entire country for development just because they lack the money to do something themselves.

The building of a small fishing port or harbour belongs in a local city council to be decided, more precisely the inhabitants of Ceel Garde not on bloody government level or high court this is pure qabyald.

Kawaran hadaan ku idhaa anigoo nin HJ ah, adigoo nin Ciidagale ah degaanka Toon ceel ka qodan maysid? You continued digging your well. I killed a high ranking Ciidagale military officer. Just because I'm against you developing your region. Can you see how munaafaq this little clan became after ina Cigaal gave them Saaxil? Its not just this port, warshadka shibidhka, haamaha shiidaalka waxay leeyihiin anagaa leh. oo cirkana maad leedihiin?

Look at this Ximaar Ibnu Ximaar....the only munafiq is u and ur likes who ONLY show their ximaar mentality when their clan are involved, ismaac ya ximaar, the late president cigal,AUN, didnt give anything to tolkeesa and anyone with human brian ,which is not ur case, would remember his famous speech to CM where he specifically told them ''Waxaan Idin Dhaxal Siinayaa Qaran La Yidhaahdo Somaliland"...where did he,AUN,say I gave u saaxil Yaa Ximaar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqaEd9k1_4

moreover, this is a map from the British Survey in 1944 showing district borders of British Somaliland, and ceel gerde is within berbera district yaa ximaar.



fuking waste of time making me dig some old maps and vids.

[theyuusuf143]

Qodobka koowaad ee xeerka ciqaabta guud ee beelaha dalku Ku qaateen axdi qarameedkii borama 1993 wuxu dhigayaa in beeshii iswaashaba laysugu tago . qodobkaasi wuxu meesha ka saarayaa in marnaba beel yar keligeed fidhfidhleyn karto. Especially ciise muuse marnaba kama baaqsan karaan in wadajir loo waso haday ka badbadiyaan waayo Cid Somaliland kunool oo maanta ciise muuse berbera u dabo fadhiisanaysaa ma jirto. Magaalada lafteeda dekeda walaa haamaha.


Hadaan dhegoweyne usoo noqdo, horta waydaan ogayne malahee SNM wixii dagaal live ah Soo galay muuse biixi iyo midhadh kalaa caafimaadkoodu taam yahay. Intii kale oo dhan qaarna way waasheen qaarna waa naafo. Dhegowayne haduu xuskiisu joogo isba waxaas oo kale sharafta iskagama qaadeen. Raga waashay Cali gurey baa ugu sahlan isugu waa waalida dhaqanta sida dhegowayne iskumuu dhex yaacin, Dhegowayne dawadiisu waa Ignore plus avoid sidaas jalaludin sheegay. Wixii wax ka rumaystaa ka waalan.

[caadani90]

I've got nothing against CM they are good folks, but this madness must end sooner or later. We cant have 1 clan holding hostage the entire country for development just because they lack the money to do something themselves.

The building of a small fishing port or harbour belongs in a local city council to be decided, more precisely the inhabitants of Ceel Garde not on bloody government level or high court this is pure qabyald.

Kawaran hadaan ku idhaa anigoo nin HJ ah, adigoo nin Ciidagale ah degaanka Toon ceel ka qodan maysid? You continued digging your well. I killed a high ranking Ciidagale military officer. Just because I'm against you developing your region. Can you see how munaafaq this little clan became after ina Cigaal gave them Saaxil? Its not just this port, warshadka shibidhka, haamaha shiidaalka waxay leeyihiin anagaa leh. oo cirkana maad leedihiin?

Look at this Ximaar Ibnu Ximaar....the only munafiq is u and ur likes who ONLY show their ximaar mentality when their clan are involved, ismaac ya ximaar, the late president cigal,AUN, didnt give anything to tolkeesa and anyone with human brian ,which is not ur case, would remember his famous speech to CM where he specifically told them ''Waxaan Idin Dhaxal Siinayaa Qaran La Yidhaahdo Somaliland"...where did he,AUN,say I gave u saaxil Yaa Ximaar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqaEd9k1_4

moreover, this is a map from the British Survey in 1944 showing district borders of British Somaliland, and ceel gerde is within berbera district yaa ximaar.



fuking waste of time making me dig some old maps and vids.

Ok so in the video you posted you didnt hear the HY caaqil name drop 3 CM he feels are responsible for sacking of the DG including Ramaax. And im guessing that you didnt know that CeelGerde port has actually been in existence since the early 1980's and has had a port manager named by every sl admin upto and including Riyaale. Infact during Tuur (aun) CM war in 1992 it was main port for most people from togdheer and east of Saxil.

Your to deep into your inter-isaaq qabilism and division to condem a man who is openly calling for civil war, qax and destablisation in Somaliland in 2016 as he hails from your sub clan.

[CaynabaX]

Look at this Ximaar Ibnu Ximaar....the only munafiq is u and ur likes who ONLY show their ximaar mentality when their clan are involved, ismaac ya ximaar, the late president cigal,AUN, didnt give anything to tolkeesa and anyone with human brian ,which is not ur case, would remember his famous speech to CM where he specifically told them ''Waxaan Idin Dhaxal Siinayaa Qaran La Yidhaahdo Somaliland"...where did he,AUN,say I gave u saaxil Yaa Ximaar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqaEd9k1_4

moreover, this is a map from the British Survey in 1944 showing district borders of British Somaliland, and ceel gerde is within berbera district yaa ximaar.



fuking waste of time making me dig some old maps and vids.

oo odaygu muxuu la caytamaya? Ma runtaan taabtay? Ma taasu ka cadhooday?

Whether Cigaal, Dhegaweyne or Ina Xoor Xoor gave Ciise Muuse Saaxil or not. Today Ciise Muuse considers Berbera or Saaxil as whole theirs. Thats munaafiqnimo. Islaan yaroo camerad soo iibsatay oo maantoo dhan leh anagaa Berberi leh, ee dadkani Garadag ama Oodweyne ka yimi meeshoodu haa ku noqdaan miyaaynu dhageysana? Xaqiiqduun eeg, ee soo laabo kolkaa adeer.

What are you trying to proof with that map? We all knew, Ceelgarde is within Berbera district? What are you trying to say?