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Tuushi wrote:I wonder is such a condition is ever met considering how hush hush the whole affair is.
Exactly. I mean...what man is going to sit through as a wali and basically offer his daughter/sister as a friend with benefits.

Leave alone a girl asking her father/brother that she wants a friend with benefits to meet her needs :lol:
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i am just confused!! i thought even before this fatwa, people doing it any ways. single mother who marrying younger man. she pays his expenses, living in her house...etc. at least this case, he has his own family and doesn't live off her. loool
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GeoSeven wrote:
Tuushi wrote:I wonder is such a condition is ever met considering how hush hush the whole affair is.
Exactly. I mean...what man is going to sit through as a wali and basically offer his daughter/sister as a friend with benefits.

Leave alone a girl asking her father/brother that she wants a friend with benefits to meet her needs :lol:

Muddly waters all around.I am pretty skeptical of the whole thing. :lol:
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lol i thought this was a joke!! you guys really don't know? whatever you agree or not but i thought every one knows. specially it's legal contract now in the courts.
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Hyper qardaawi is controversial sheekh kale mahaysaa? Ask your dad & forward it here. We may not be very knowledgeable in this matter but we do read and at least understand the basics. This sounds like qudbo Siro even though they say in qudbo siro one doesn't inform even the guatdian.

If it's a young girl who never married what happens after the thing is over? Can she claim she was married before? And who married you before? Oh we fucked only for one weekend and it was over. That doesn't sound right sheeq :lol:
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Cool you joking right? war it's legal in every court.

sheikhadan Saudi scholars ba keeney decades ago. isaka wa on ka weydiyey, dadka saudiga ka so horjeeda.
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Misyaar marriage: definition and rulings

Misyaar marriage was mentioned on your website. What is this marriage? Is it halaal or haraam?.
Published Date: 2008-03-05
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly: 
Misyaar marriage is where a man does a shar’i marriage contract with a woman, meeting the conditions of marriage, but the woman gives up some of her rights such as accommodation, maintenance or the husband’s staying overnight with her. 
The reasons that have led to the emergence of this kind of marriage are many, such as: 
1.
Increase in the number of single women who are unable to get married, because young men are put off marriage due to the high cost of dowries and the costs of marriage, or because there is a high divorce rate. In such circumstances, some women will agree to be a second or third wife and to give up some of their rights. 
2.
Some women need to stay in their family home, either because they are the only care-givers for family members, or because the woman has a handicap and her family do not want the husband to be burdened with something he cannot bear, and he stays in touch with her without having to put too great a burden on himself, or because she has children and cannot move with them to her husband’s house, and other reasons. 
3.
Some married men want to keep some women chaste because they need that, or because they need variety and halaal pleasure, without that affecting the first wife and her children. 
4.
In some cases a husband may want to conceal his second marriage from his first wife, for fear of the consequences that may result and affect their relationship. 
5.
The man travels often to a certain place and stays there for lengthy periods. Undoubtedly staying there with a wife is safer for him than not doing so. 
These are the most prominent reasons for the emergence of this kind of marriage. 
Secondly: 
The scholars differed concerning the ruling on this type of marriage, and there are several opinions, ranging from the view that it is permissible, to the view that it is permitted but makrooh, or that it is not allowed. Here we should point out several things. 
1.
None of the scholars have said that it is invalid or is not correct; rather they disallowed it because of the consequences that adversely affect the woman, as it is demeaning to her, and that affects the society as this marriage contract is taken advantage of by bad people, because a  woman could claim that a boyfriend is a husband. It also affects the children whose upbringing will be affected by their father’s absence. 
2.
Some of those who said that it was permissible have retracted that view. Among the most prominent scholars who said that it was permissible were Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz and Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal al-Shaykh; and among the most prominent scholars who said that it was permissible and then retracted it was Shaykh al-‘Uthaymeen; among the most prominent scholars who said that it is not allowed at all was Shaykh al-Albaani. 
3.
Those who said that it is permissible did not say that a time limit should be set as in the case of mut’ah. And they did not say that it is permissible without a wali (guardian), because marriage without a wali is invalid. And they did not say that the marriage contract may be done without witnesses or without being announced, rather it is essential to do one of the two. 
Thirdly: 
Opinion of the scholars concerning this type of marriage: 
1.
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about Misyaar marriage; this kind of marriage is where the man marries a second, third or fourth wife, and the wife is in a situation that compels her to stay with her parents or one of them in her own house, and the husband goes to her at various times depending on the circumstances of both. What is the Islamic ruling on this type of marriage? 
He replied: 
There is nothing wrong with that if the marriage contract fulfils all the conditions set out by sharee’ah, which is the presence of the wali and the consent of both partners, and the presence of two witnesses of good character to the drawing up of the contract, and both partners being free of any impediments, because of the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “The conditions that are most deserving of being fulfilled are those by means of which intimacy becomes permissible for you” and “The Muslims are bound by their conditions.” If the partners agree that the woman will stay with her family or that her share of the husband’s time will be during the day and not during the night, or on certain days or certain nights, there is nothing wrong with that, so long as the marriage is announced and not hidden. End quote.   
Fataawa ‘Ulama’ al-Balad al-Haraam (p. 450, 451) and Jareedah al-Jazeerah issue no. 8768, Monday 18 Jumaada al-Oola 1417 AH. 
However, some students of the Shaykh said that he later retracted the view that it is permissible, but we could not find anything in writing to prove that. 
2.
Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal al-Shaykh (may Allaah preserve him) was asked: 
There is a lot of talk about misyaar marriage being haraam or halaal. We would like a definitive statement about this matter from you, with a description of its conditions and obligations, if it is permissible. 
He replied: 
The conditions of marriage are that the two partners should be identified and give their consent, and there should be a wali (guardian) and two witnesses. If the conditions are met and the marriage is announced, and they do not agree to conceal it, either the husband, the wife or their guardians, and he offered a waleemah or wedding feast, then this marriage is valid, and you can call it whatever you want after that. End quote. 
Jareedah al-Jazeerah, Friday 15 Rabee’ al-Thaani 1422 AH, issue no. 10508. 
3.
Shaykh al-Albaani was asked about Misyaar marriage and he disallowed it for two reasons: 
(i)
That the purpose of marriage is repose as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect” [al-Room 30:21]. But this is not achieved in this kind of marriage. 
(ii)
It may be decreed that the husband has children with this woman, but because he is far away from her and rarely comes to her, that will be negatively reflected in his children’s upbringing and attitude. 
See: Ahkaam al-Ta’addud fi Daw’ al-Kitaab wa’l-Sunnah (p. 28, 29). 
4.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) used to say that it was permissible, then he stopped saying that because of the negative effects, as it was poorly applied by some wrongdoers. 
Finally, what we think is: 
That if Misyaar marriage fulfils the conditions of a valid marriage, namely the proposal and acceptance, the consent of the wali and witnesses or announcement of the marriage, then it is a valid marriage contract, and it is good for some categories of men and women whose circumstances call for this type of marriage. But this may be taken advantage of by some whose religious commitment is weak, hence this permissibility should not be described as general in application in a fatwa, rather the situation of each couple should be examined, and if this kind of marriage is good for them then it should be permitted, otherwise they should not be allowed to do it. That is to prevent marriage for the sake of mere pleasure whilst losing the other benefits of marriage, and to prevent the marriage of two people whose marriage we may be certain is likely to fail and in which the wife will be neglected, such as one who will be away from his wife for many months, and will leave her on her own in an apartment, watching TV and visiting chat rooms and going on the internet. How can such a weak woman spend her time? This is different from one who lives with her family or children and has enough religious commitment, obedience, chastity and modesty to help her be patient during her husband’s absence. 
And Allaah knows best.
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COOL-MAN wrote:Hyper qardaawi is controversial sheekh kale mahaysaa? Ask your dad & forward it here. We may not be very knowledgeable in this matter but we do read and at least understand the basics. This sounds like qudbo Siro even though they say in qudbo siro one doesn't inform even the guatdian.

If it's a young girl who never married what happens after the thing is over? Can she claim she was married before? And who married you before? Oh we fucked only for one weekend and it was over. That doesn't sound right sheeq :lol:



The shia one is the one you are thinking of. :lol: This one is not temporary but just adult arrangement.The woman is set up;has her own finances in order and doesnt need anything from a man but companionship.It is still long term but not in the traditional sense.It will make separating that much easier.
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read the 3- one :lol: :lol:

so some men worry about women to do zina :)
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Wtf is halal booty ?

Mutca or misyaar?

Mutca is haram bc it's like sex holiday

Misyar is halal but not favorable. you just don't have to offer shyt but you have to take it seriously and must have no intentions to leave her.
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Not surprised after all the same people marries 9 old girls they have no moral
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HayWire wrote:Young and cute. No strings attached. Her own place. Just call each other and make arrangements when you feel thirsty. No financial responsibility. Only conditions 24hrs advance notice, anything less than 24 hrs no guarantee.

Is it acceptable in Islam :lupe:
:russ: sounds the somali khudbo siro

This is very common in the UK. I think it's immoral bc her kids even don't know this.

I know alot of men who have secret wives

One of them was giving me a lift when going to the mosque and was never picking the phone until he tired of it.
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There is no such thing as "Halal Booty Call"! A Booty call is when the phone bling, bling, u r feeling the Drake song, but God forbid don't dance like he does, even though that mess of a dance-was wet sexy in a weird way. :kiss: When the call or bling bling lights on, and both of ya are not contractually connected - u meet to exchange bodily fluid. :eat:


If u r Islamic -ally engaged, it is not a booty call. Its an obligation call, per the Maher contract that is. :eat:
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Hyper what is the opinion of the 4 madhabs, the 3 shuyuuk mentioned are all wahabiya.
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Basra, you are right. but every one explains their own way.

what majority don't pay attention is ; marriage in islam is "ijaab and qoboul" you offer and other part accepts your offer. it's civic marriage and not religion. you do not even need wadad. 2 witness(for announcement, mahr, wali and 2 people who willing to do contract.

many couple just come to us, previously married, we just make paper for them. all i need 2 people say " yeah they married" i don't even have to ask anything else, some times if sounds fishy you ask family member. they already married.
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