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Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:24 pm
by Hyperactive
Futurist wrote:They tried sabotaged Ilhan Omar, just when they thought she was going to succeed.

They signed an MOU to give away Somali territorial waters to Kenya.

They overturned the Qat ban after 1 week.

They oppose the Berbera port deal with DP world out of xaasidnimo.

They shot Saado Cali in the head when she tried to reclaim her house in Mogadishu.

They collude with Kenyan/AMISOM troops to chop down Somali trees and illegally export charcoal.

They sold 50,000 Somali women to Saudi Cadaabia to work as khadaams and to be rapes and abused by fat Saudies.

They hand over proud innocent ONLF Somalis to Amxaaro injiroole.

They discriminate against their own SOMALi madhibaan people, whilst welcoming dhegacas Yemenis, and Oromos.

Hundreds of thousands of Somali children have been orphaned.

260,000 Somali people died needlessly in a drought because Wahabi Al Shabab prevented "gaallo" food aid from reaching them.

Ceyr xaraan ah aa laqaadanaa, been aa la sheegaa, 10 curuur aa la dhalaa lakiin waxaa la dhahaa abohood ma ganaranaayo.
lool@They shot Saado Cali in the head when she tried to reclaim her house in Mogadishu. I had to google her. then when I saw her face, I remembered her! many were killed why you use her as example? ma eedada bey aheyd?

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:28 pm
by gegiroor
Futurist wrote:They tried sabotaged Ilhan Omar, just when they thought she was going to succeed.

They signed an MOU to give away Somali territorial waters to Kenya.

They overturned the Qat ban after 1 week.

They oppose the Berbera port deal with DP world out of xaasidnimo.

They shot Saado Cali in the head when she tried to reclaim her house in Mogadishu.

They collude with Kenyan/AMISOM troops to chop down Somali trees and illegally export charcoal.

They sold 50,000 Somali women to Saudi Cadaabia to work as khadaams and to be rapes and abused by fat Saudies.

They hand over proud innocent ONLF Somalis to Amxaaro injiroole.

They discriminate against their own SOMALi madhibaan people, whilst welcoming dhegacas Yemenis, and Oromos.

Hundreds of thousands of Somali children have been orphaned.

260,000 Somali people died needlessly in a drought because Wahabi Al Shabab prevented "gaallo" food aid from reaching them.

Ceyr xaraan ah aa laqaadanaa, been aa la sheegaa, 10 curuur aa la dhalaa lakiin waxaa la dhahaa abohood ma ganaranaayo.
I am glad that you wrote that in Somali. Si fiican baad arrintaas iyada ah af Soomaali ugu qortay, oo weliba reerkaan iska ba'ay ee Soomaali ugu ceeb qarisay.

But why did you change the dialect and chose southern accent when we all know you're a 'qowdhan'? Maad inagala kara yaraysid?

With respect to your description of Somali problems, you're on-point except one: Scapegoating Arab Muslims. There is no Arab culture that invaded us; we're Muslims and they're overwhelmingly fellow Muslims. Therefore, when it comes to Sunni Islam, we follow the same faith. On this point, I would say let us not project our failures on others.

The rest of comments are on the spot. I would only advise not to lose hope on Somalis. Just make du'a and insha'Allah Allah will open a door for us.

Btw, it is a good start we talk about our problems, so we can accept them, and insha'Allah we can move on solutions.

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:51 pm
by 26June1960
FAH1223 wrote:I think Somalia has a brighter future than places like Syria and Yemen.

Not saying a lot but...
It depends on what you mean by 'Somalia'. Which Somalia do you speak of? North-western? North-eastern? Central? South-western? Southern? South-eastern? Mogadishu? Where, exactly?

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:19 pm
by GalliumerianSlayer
gegiroor wrote:Whenever you see someone accusing 'Arab sub-culture', check to see if he (or she) is an atheist.

Somalis are in the mayhem they are in because there is a lack of compromise, forgiveness, and foreign interference that takes advantage of our division.
Who brought the foreigners in 2006? 1982? Post 2006,etc.. :ducktales:

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:28 pm
by Futurist
Hyperactive wrote:
Futurist wrote:They tried sabotaged Ilhan Omar, just when they thought she was going to succeed.

They signed an MOU to give away Somali territorial waters to Kenya.

They overturned the Qat ban after 1 week.

They oppose the Berbera port deal with DP world out of xaasidnimo.

They shot Saado Cali in the head when she tried to reclaim her house in Mogadishu.

They collude with Kenyan/AMISOM troops to chop down Somali trees and illegally export charcoal.

They sold 50,000 Somali women to Saudi Cadaabia to work as khadaams and to be rapes and abused by fat Saudies.

They hand over proud innocent ONLF Somalis to Amxaaro injiroole.

They discriminate against their own SOMALi madhibaan people, whilst welcoming dhegacas Yemenis, and Oromos.

Hundreds of thousands of Somali children have been orphaned.

260,000 Somali people died needlessly in a drought because Wahabi Al Shabab prevented "gaallo" food aid from reaching them.

Ceyr xaraan ah aa laqaadanaa, been aa la sheegaa, 10 curuur aa la dhalaa lakiin waxaa la dhahaa abohood ma ganaranaayo.
lool@They shot Saado Cali in the head when she tried to reclaim her house in Mogadishu. I had to google her. then when I saw her face, I remembered her! many were killed why you use her as example? ma eedada bey aheyd?
I chose her because she was a famous Somali musician. Ironically one of her most famous songs was "Dalkayga waan jeclahay, dadkayga waan jeclahay". Isn't it a bitter irony that she should die unjustly at the hands of a group of fellow Somalis! They shot her in the head on a street corner in broad daylight... waxaas aa lagu abaalmariyay! Such a waste of human life.

https://youtu.be/5y9KUjfOa58

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:39 pm
by Futurist
gegiroor wrote:But why did you change the dialect and chose southern accent when we all know you're a 'qowdhan'? Maad inagala kara yaraysid?
I am from mixed Somali heritage with family from all over Somalia, hence the confused dialect.

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:41 pm
by gegiroor
GalliumerianSlayer wrote:
gegiroor wrote:Whenever you see someone accusing 'Arab sub-culture', check to see if he (or she) is an atheist.

Somalis are in the mayhem they are in because there is a lack of compromise, forgiveness, and foreign interference that takes advantage of our division.
Who brought the foreigners in 2006? 1982? Post 2006,etc.. :ducktales:

The foreigners have their own agenda, but if we're gonna look at the people who brought them, we'd find them in all Somali clans.

Btw, why did you leave out in 1993 and even the ones who are inviting them today. :lol:

Even in Arta government, Somali leaders were calling for foreign forces

Nevertheless, foreigners are in Somalia because of Somali division and mistrust. Let us accept that fact!

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:45 pm
by Khalid Ali
are people just realizing this now that Somalia will never function as a state because there are so many opposing views and Somalis will all the time use external forces to undermine each other , some people waxad mooda inay hada so tooseen the conflicting has been ongoing since the 1980s. Somalia is a dead case the sooner people accept this fact the better. i am against blame game darood blaming hawiye , or hawiye blaming darood. Hawiye blaming darood for bringing ethiopian troops or kenyan troops why dont hawiye oppose the ethiopians now they are in somalia why dont they object they are in the high seat.. Ciidamada shiisheeye wala wada watta every one knows this

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:54 pm
by Futurist
Khalid Ali wrote:are people just realizing this now that Somalia will never function as a state because there are so many opposing views and Somalis will all the time use external forces to undermine each other , some people waxad mooda inay hada so tooseen the conflicting has been ongoing since the 1980s. Somalia is a dead case the sooner people accept this fact the better.
SL is only marginally better. In many ways it is a deeply corrupt, callous, egoistic society that is only Islamic on the surface. In the words of another member...
LightAtNight wrote:One of the worst aspects of a society is a society that does not practice compassion, basic honesty or integrity and the presence of ingrained corruption morally and otherwise.

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:08 pm
by LightAtNight
Khalid Ali wrote:are people just realizing this now that Somalia will never function as a state because there are so many opposing views and Somalis will all the time use external forces to undermine each other , some people waxad mooda inay hada so tooseen the conflicting has been ongoing since the 1980s. Somalia is a dead case the sooner people accept this fact the better. i am against blame game darood blaming hawiye , or hawiye blaming darood. Hawiye blaming darood for bringing ethiopian troops or kenyan troops why dont hawiye oppose the ethiopians now they are in somalia why dont they object they are in the high seat.. Ciidamada shiisheeye wala wada watta every one knows this
When you drop dead one day, God is going to show you in your life review all these posts, you'll have a lot of explaining to do

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:11 pm
by Khalid Ali
Futurist wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:are people just realizing this now that Somalia will never function as a state because there are so many opposing views and Somalis will all the time use external forces to undermine each other , some people waxad mooda inay hada so tooseen the conflicting has been ongoing since the 1980s. Somalia is a dead case the sooner people accept this fact the better.
SL is only marginally better. In many ways it is a deeply corrupt, callous, egoistic society that is only Islamic on the surface. In the words of another member...
LightAtNight wrote:One of the worst aspects of a society is a society that does not practice compassion, basic honesty or integrity and the presence of ingrained corruption morally and otherwise.

Islamic ma diin baynu isku haysanaa i dont get you what is it SL elites are also corrupt the difference is SL has people that love the country so much that are willing to protect it so SL elites cannot sell Somaliland sea to to Yemen and than a few years later say hey wait a minute we should sue Yemen lol we are not the same breed run ahaanti

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:12 pm
by Khalid Ali
LightAtNight wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:are people just realizing this now that Somalia will never function as a state because there are so many opposing views and Somalis will all the time use external forces to undermine each other , some people waxad mooda inay hada so tooseen the conflicting has been ongoing since the 1980s. Somalia is a dead case the sooner people accept this fact the better. i am against blame game darood blaming hawiye , or hawiye blaming darood. Hawiye blaming darood for bringing ethiopian troops or kenyan troops why dont hawiye oppose the ethiopians now they are in somalia why dont they object they are in the high seat.. Ciidamada shiisheeye wala wada watta every one knows this
When you drop dead one day, God is going to show you in your life review all these posts, you'll have a lot of explaining to do

lol habaar ma la bilaabay iyo ilaahay ba somalinet baadhayaa lol of all the dembi in the world ilaahay somalinet bu korayaa deedna halkan bu dembeygeyga ka baadhaya lol nin walan baad tahay

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:14 pm
by Futurist
gegiroor wrote:

With respect to your description of Somali problems, you're on-point except one: Scapegoating Arab Muslims. There is no Arab culture that invaded us; we're Muslims and they're overwhelmingly fellow Muslims. Therefore, when it comes to Sunni Islam, we follow the same faith. On this point, I would say let us not project our failures on others.
No words necessary. Only the truth can save Somalis now.

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Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:18 pm
by LightAtNight
I just teeling you the truth, am not habaaring you

Its not just Somalinet obviously, I dont know what you do in your personal life, but the posts you make on snet are definitely going to be part of the review, marka think twice ayaan kuleyha

Re: Why somalia is in perpetual conflict. Im done.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:22 pm
by Hyperactive
Futurist;

I agree with you our people messed up and morally bankrupted. if you keep thinking about contradiction of our acting is mind blowing.
no matter how much you pray, fast , go to haj, how much you know about islam and you lie about welfare and cheating!! how people do not question that!! why in our communities is acceptable and not shaming them as long they do all that and wear hijab?? but once a girl or female wears pants hell froze and islam ka bey jeebka kala so bahayan!!

I am done long time ago.

Lighatnight, I am liking this character. I will pay attention what you write here.