Ciyaalka HA ee meeshan ka faataa bakh leh, stfu

[SuldaanQaw]

Abdikarim86@ this is not about this election only , what people have waken upto is the constant musuqmasuq from jeegaan against their brothers Arab,CG,HY, and Samaroon. indbadn baa laheen dolqaatey oo legnahye xishooney . we shall see what happend inhend. ogow dowladi afweyne waxha burbureysi marku afwene keenyey siyasidee reer diini oo macal maxeeranki klar saarey oo darodi kalar saarey oo cidkasto mucardi ku noqotey tolkiisee macal.

chief if you only knew the true extant of the Sacad Muuse corruption, they have diverted 80 % of all the resources from Somaliland Development Fund, Somaliland Business Fund to their deegans and projects. Every single thing people of Somaliland was supposed to share, they swindle and do worst qiyaamo. One can't simply work with these people, the election stuffing goes hand in hand with their modus operandi of tricking and deceiving other clans. They even trick HJ their socalled jeegaan partner

[abdikarim86]

gypsie, what election results? you think anyone will pay attention to the details of the entire sham, a swindle, your dear uncle just couldn't win fair and square so he re-sorted to ballot theft, stuffing and double votings, not to mention colluding with NEC and changing the final results of several deegans and gobols.

Keep clinging to that straw, Ciidagale iyo Habar Yoonis usually goes separate ways, but we brothers of the shield.
Know that if we start gravitating towards each other then RIP SL cause a war alliance is what it is.

These elections were free and fair as evidenced by the countless internal (600) and external (60) observers. Each party had witnesses present during the counting process in every polling station and district.

Voters could only vote in the polling station they registered themselves in. E.g. Polling station A has 200 voters, only those 200 can vote there, nobody else, and the 200 cannot vote anywhere else. No Shubasho on a mass scale was reasonablly possible.

There were irregularities but they were minor and no where on any scale which could change the result.

And as mentioned by Cadaani (Based obviously on what we believe the election results to be, although nothing has been confirmed yet) - Even if Gabiley and Half of Hargeisa were discounted. Kulmiye would still win.

Can you explain why 50% of Awdal voted for Kulmiye, can you explain why from what folks are saying more than half your kin rejected Waddani? Was there cheating there as well?

I mean you cannot even agree on the narrative of your conspiracy?

Was it Jeegnaanta that lost it for you - If that is the case why did you not support your brothers if the purpose was to make sure MBC could not win. Why could you not adequately convince what are meant to be your natural allies in SL politics aka Samaroon?

Was it the UAE printing lots of ballots which were used to stuff boxes - We've already stated that cannot be the case. There cannot be more votes than the number of total registered voters in any given district.

You candidate lost! Face it, accept it, then subsequently move on!

What the fock would you mean by RIP SL. HY and CG gravitating towards each other has no significance whatsoever with regards to Jiritaanka Soomaaliland!

[Inaayah]

A round of applause for Abdikarim.

[SuldaanQaw]

all that regurgitating piss you wrote is nonsense you and other gypsies have spewed, it's doens't make you look smart, better to be believed to be a fool than open mouth and confirm for everyone

[abdikarim86]

Abdikarim86@ this is not about this election only , what people have waken upto is the constant musuqmasuq from jeegaan against their brothers Arab,CG,HY, and Samaroon. indbadn baa laheen dolqaatey oo legnahye xishooney . we shall see what happend inhend. ogow dowladi afweyne waxha burbureysi marku afwene keenyey siyasidee reer diini oo macal maxeeranki klar saarey oo darodi kalar saarey oo cidkasto mucardi ku noqotey tolkiisee macal.

A couple of narratives baad la ordaysaa which are false.

HA/HJ alone could NOT bring out a candidate if every other individual not a member of those two clans voted for Cirro.
I repeat it is NOT possible for HA/HJ alone to bring out a candidate by themselves alone.

I base this opinion on the Tirada dadkii is diiwaangeliyay iyo degmooyinka la iska diiwaangeliyay. We have numbers available down to the polling station/by neighbourhood level.

From what I am hearing (Based on sources which I trust - Laakin I accept all second-hand information is poor) - Samaroon were SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE. Ciidagale WERE SPLIT 3 ways. Even Arab did not unanimously vote for Waddani, entire segments Kulmiye ayay ku shubteen.

If the people of SL were so against the Jeegnaan (Which let us face it may crumble soon - When new political parties form), Why did they NOT unanimously vote for Cirro to smash the unholy alliance?

One more thing - Again I must credit others for this info - Is that HJ back in 2008 when they decided to unanimously support Siilanyo, they approached HY for support. Here was an opportunity to break the unholy alliance you deplore so much. What did HY do? They laughed - And a statement was made which has entered Somali folklore.

The sheer arrogance!!!

You say this is not about elections - Yet your party is claiming the election was Xaaraam - Fikirkaa miyaad la qabtaa CheifCaaqil? Do you believe the elections were Xaaraam despite the multitude of evidence to the contrary?

What I suspect is that among your supporters you believe HA/HJ have benefited a lot from Kulmiye's rule (Which is a FAIR feeling). Your party base also believes they are the majority within SL and this explains why they do NOT seriously court the other clans.

Now you want the presidency (Which is fair, I have no qualms with that). But you want it by ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

YOU WERE NEVER GONNA ACCEPT THE RESULTS.

[MujahidAishah]

Suldan cayda jooji nin weyn baa tahay..


Hada waxa laga sheega qaranka somaliland. You accuse ppl of being qabilist when you are saying gx won’t stand for wadani being “cheated” last time I knew waddani was a xisbi qaran qabil kasta ku jiira but why are one section of waddani fighting and not the others

Komiishan has not confirmed anything for all we know ucid could of won.

[SuldaanQaw]

kkkk more like your uncle Biixi wanted it by any means possible, it was not Wadani that ordered children to vote, stuffed ballots, arrested opposition NEC people, bussed in people from djibouti, colluded with UAE and a private firm to print fake ballots.

[abdikarim86]

^ The conspiracies widen by the day

all that regurgitating piss you wrote is nonsense you and other gypsies have spewed, it's doens't make you look smart, better to be believed to be a fool than open mouth and confirm for everyone

Only someone who has no leg to stand on will make a reply like that.

Keep on screaming "Tolaayey yaa Garxajis ah" - When all is said and done and everybody accepts the results for they will accept it, you will crawl back into obscurity.

For the moment ii baashaal.

[SuldaanQaw]

Or a war will come, all depends on Cirro.

[MujahidAishah]

Indr abdikarim war maa ka haysa what the nec are upto day reer hargeysa maanta wey igu wacad fuurin madaam aay jimce tahay.
Have the ballots in maroodi jeex been counted yet mise waa jimce

[MujahidAishah]

Or a war will come, all depends on Cirro.

Waddani has been brought back to table so iska fadhiso

[abdikarim86]

Indr abdikarim war maa ka haysa what the nec are upto day reer hargeysa maanta wey igu wacad fuurin madaam aay jimce tahay.
Have the ballots in maroodi jeex been counted yet mise waa jimce

From what I am hearing - They've already been counted. But Waddani left the counting process last night or the night before when they released that even WITHOUT Maroodi Jeex, they could not win.

Everybody knows the results - Laakin the NEC will not announce until all political parties agree.

Maroodi Jeex will most probably be counted again in order to satisfy Electoral law, because members of the opposition (Muraaqabiin) have to be present for the counting process.

Inshallah arrintani nabad bay ku dhamaan - I've just heard Waddani have come back to the table.

[cheifaqilbari]

We seems to talk past or write past eachoother abdikariim. I have been to Somaliland many times, the fact of the matter is waxe hanti dalku lahaa, reer kaliga isku aruuriyeye oo ah SM, not CM not HJ not Cidagale or Arab or even HY whom you have laabled us as your cadoweena. You seem to be interested in History so let us go back to SNM, let me give two historic legends which have gone into every somalilanders abc. Whom are these Garaxjis whom you decided to make a jeeegan against. We were ones who gave our life to SM and all of isaaq out when your leaders where being tutored in the middle of hargeisa .Shall I remind you of the famous and succesfull night prison break. libaaxnimada waa dheeg iyo geesnimo , magac bilaash kuma baxey . were are the garaxjis snm leaders well wey dhimtey dalkan bey kuso xorerey . dheego dalkan ku daadey calanka cas iyo towxeda iga kuu saarey .
history is not made today tariiq written somali wey is taqaana.
On musse , I know New kumiye SM who said to me 3 bilood kahore muuse kursiga wa laasaray , gar iyo gardaro . this is the same muse who use to say everyday when he was in SNM and he was go to battle and I swear by allah stw this true go and ask his family " abityaal dagaal ban galaya ee iso duceya , waxey dici karta inan so noqoeen ducadi niyad gasha". our ducu and allah made him safe wana nin daagal ku fcn oo sarkaal top snm buu taas wan ku qeriya ruunta fcn. laakin maanta gardaro ma ogolnehey . sifcan baan ulascooda lacagti ina aw saciid laagso qaadey oo ah 2million dllrska ee jabuti laga keeney. marka how can you say to mee doroso xalal baa dacay. meeshan waa boqortoo bad sameysateen ruunta sheeg oo angi waan iska amusney laakin been wa xaaaraan. anig beenta uun ban kaso horjeeda.. laakin ha igu odhaan in 8 sano imika heystad oo 10 sano kle ku shuubtye in doorsho xalal dacey. sadam huessin dorasho 99% buu sameysan jirey .
Also you said aniga Dahair riyaale keeney, maad illay ka baqdiid cid kursiga saartey dahaair riyaale wa gareyneysa. waa jegaanti dahir kursi nasib bey ugu timi ee maba lugu talagalin. macal hada kursiga ka dhimataan ma anig blame le. You made him vice president and he stole dorashad wu ku shubey ma angi ka masuul mise cigaal saarey. in 2010 i myfamily was in the country and i gave my vote to silaanyo . laakin maanta waxa
waxa wadaan waa sheko xukum oo gar iyo gardaro. marka iskwada laakin dont say I and millions of somalilanders told u cadaala ino fcn iinga daaya. I said this waliba anig ah nin 3 adeeryal abityaal iyo indeeryal ku dimtey malinti SNM xoreerye burco . bariga aan wada gaajo iyo dimso uu joogney oo hablo macal dahabkoodi snm u iben jireey. daaki dheegoodi dalkan uso xorreye baa kuleeeydey waxba kuma lee have u no shame not even a little . taasi illahy ma ogol anig ma ogol ee imika hada dad caliq iyo sharfleedahey kaso fikir oo isku noqda. These people Gaxajris ,arab, and Samaroon are the salt of the earth and the people of somaliland hada uu diddey kursiga oo xaaram ku qadataan waxa dacaya ilahy baa oog.

[Sauron]

I like how the Sacad Muuse are cutting the Cidagalle from the Habar Yoonis. "Cidagalle are my abtiyaal" "My awoowyaal were closer to Cidagalle than Sacad Muuse" "My mom slept with a Cidagalle" bla bla bla bla.

Nacalaa idinla dhaqan nagnimo yeelatay f-king uunsi foqol uunsi.

hooyada siilka jareertenka aheyd was.

Ilma amina boqor talking about dhaqan xumo is a joke. stay in your lane abaha maskaxda ka wase.

[abdikarim86]

We seems to talk past or write past eachoother abdikariim. I have been to Somaliland many times, the fact of the matter is waxe hanti dalku lahaa, reer kaliga isku aruuriyeye oo ah SM, not CM not HJ not Cidagale or Arab or even HY whom you have laabled us as your cadoweena. You seem to be interested in History so let us go back to SNM, let me give two historic legends which have gone into every somalilanders abc. Whom are these Garaxjis whom you decided to make a jeeegan against. We were ones who gave our life to SM and all of isaaq out when your leaders where being tutored in the middle of hargeisa .Shall I remind you of the famous and succesfull night prison break. libaaxnimada waa dheeg iyo geesnimo , magac bilaash kuma baxey . were are the garaxjis snm leaders well wey dhimtey dalkan bey kuso xorerey . dheego dalkan ku daadey calanka cas iyo towxeda iga kuu saarey .

I have labelled no one as an enemy and if members of my kin have labelled you as an enemy taasi waa arrin aan ka xumahay.
as to the quip about the SNM - I would NEVER question the role played by Garxajis in the war against our enemies, you need not remind me of that.

As to the rest of the statement. Who says that SM is the only clan who has it good in SL? Large numbers of our kin (Heck probably even a majority) live in poor agropastoral towns/villages out west in Western SL and Eastern Ethiopia.

This characterization of SM as a rich clan is a dangerous narrative. Number 1 - It ain't true. Number 2 - All it will do is breed resentment against SM and Number 3 - I suspect it is a ploy being used by your side to deligitimise the results by any means/grievance necessary.

Would you prefer no SM candidate ever - Because they are "wealthy" in your myopic view?

I can accept however that SL's development has been limited to Berbera-Hargeysa-Wajaale corridor - And if the Emiratis deliver their promises this part of SL will continue to develop faster then the rest of Soomaaliland. Large numbers of folks from other parts of Sl have migrated to this region further separating it from the rest of SL.

This is not a solely SM inhabited region - Ciidagale, Arab, CM, Isxaaq and sections of Gadabuursi inhabit this region.

There has been a lot of improvement over the last 7 years - The road to Ceerigaabo and Boorame has/will do a lot to counter this. But a lot more is needed.



history is not made today tariiq written somali wey is taqaana.
On musse , I know New kumiye SM who said to me 3 bilood kahore muuse kursiga wa laasaray , gar iyo gardaro . this is the same muse who use to say everyday when he was in SNM and he was go to battle and I swear by allah stw this true go and ask his family " abityaal dagaal ban galaya ee iso duceya , waxey dici karta inan so noqoeen ducadi niyad gasha". our ducu and allah made him safe wana nin daagal ku fcn oo sarkaal top snm buu taas wan ku qeriya ruunta fcn. laakin maanta gardaro ma ogolnehey . sifcan baan ulascooda lacagti ina aw saciid laagso qaadey oo ah 2million dllrska ee jabuti laga keeney. marka how can you say to mee doroso xalal baa dacay. meeshan waa boqortoo bad sameysateen ruunta sheeg oo angi waan iska amusney laakin been wa xaaaraan. anig beenta uun ban kaso horjeeda.. laakin ha igu odhaan in 8 sano imika heystad oo 10 sano kle ku shuubtye in doorsho xalal dacey. sadam huessin dorasho 99% buu sameysan jirey .

A lot words informed by emotion and caadifad and not reason and logic.

It is not forbidden to take money from businessmen (It is morally reprehensible however) and unless that money was being used to steal the elections, then so what? We all know with 600 internal and 60 external observers that it was pretty impossible to steal the elections?

The only issue here is has the election been STOLEN. Can you CheifCaaqil come out and say the election is Xaaraam and proove it. If that is the case then by God, we need a new election but that is not the case.

All this statements reveal to me is that you resent SM/HA and you feel it is not right for them to win an election because they you deem them to be wealthy. You feel it is your turn as HY to take the helm and become as "wealthy" as SM.

The accusations about the election are secondary.


Also you said aniga Dahair riyaale keeney, maad illay ka baqdiid cid kursiga saartey dahaair riyaale wa gareyneysa. waa jegaanti dahir kursi nasib bey ugu timi ee maba lugu talagalin. macal hada kursiga ka dhimataan ma anig blame le. You made him vice president and he stole dorashad wu ku shubey ma angi ka masuul mise cigaal saarey. in 2010 i myfamily was in the country and i gave my vote to silaanyo . laakin maanta waxa

I made no such statement. I am not someone who has any particular antipathy/hatred of UDUB despite the fact that they were corrupted to the core, you could still argue they were made up of a multitude of clans. Samaroon, CM, HY, sections of SM etc.

Although we all saw who UDUB's most passionate supporters were during the 2010 election - The evidence is all over Somali media, Snet archives.

waxa wadaan waa sheko xukum oo gar iyo gardaro. marka iskwada laakin dont say I and millions of somalilanders told u cadaala ino fcn iinga daaya. I said this waliba anig ah nin 3 adeeryal abityaal iyo indeeryal ku dimtey malinti SNM xoreerye burco . bariga aan wada gaajo iyo dimso uu joogney oo hablo macal dahabkoodi snm u iben jireey. daaki dheegoodi dalkan uso xorreye baa kuleeeydey waxba kuma lee have u no shame not even a little . taasi illahy ma ogol anig ma ogol ee imika hada dad caliq iyo sharfleedahey kaso fikir oo isku noqda. These people Gaxajris ,arab, and Samaroon are the salt of the earth and the people of somaliland hada uu diddey kursiga oo xaaram ku qadataan waxa dacaya ilahy baa oog.

More platitudes, assumptions, caadifad and emotion based on 0 evidence. You are attempting to paint a picture of SM which is dangerous and will lead to resentment and which has NO basis in reality.

You are attempting to make us out to be Tutsis and we will NOT focking have it, SL will not survive if the narrative you are building takes hold.

The CG, Samaroon and Arab you seem to have co-opted in your struggle for power no matter what and in your all or nothing competition with SM, were all split down the middle with respect to the parties.

All this and you still have not addressed the stateements I made earlier.

Do you believe SM single handedly conspired for Kulmiye to win? If you are so interested in breaking the unholy alliance - What explains the behaviour of HY back in 2008?