Top Xog: Hassan Shiekh's primary goal is removing Madoobe & installing Marehan in Jubbaland

[Hulkujir]

Would Marehan accept "leading" a Jubaland state that's ultimately controlled by the federal government in Mogadishu?

No

Would Garhajis accept "leading" a Somaliland republic that is ultimately controlled by the FGS ? I assume the answer is no, and the question is repulsive.

[theyuusuf143]

Axmed madoobe is the most descent cagdheer I don't understand why he is hated. Ninkaas weligay xumaan kanaan arag. Waa nin weyn oo sheekha oo wax badan xeeriya ,. Mareexaan Ku way Ka gardaran yihiin axmed madoobe. Laakiin waxa macquula cagdheer ta Ka hoos shaqaysa edeb daran

[BigBreak]

Would Marehan accept "leading" a Jubaland state that's ultimately controlled by the federal government in Mogadishu?

No

Would Garhajis accept "leading" a Somaliland republic that is ultimately controlled by the FGS ? I assume the answer is no, and the question is repulsive.

Somaliland is a separate country like Djibouti so stop with the weird analogy

[GeoSeven]

The "xog" is quite off the beam. What would Hawiye gain from alienating Ogaden for Marehan? Ogaden are transnational, more influential, better armed and multiple times the size of Marehan. The gov, Damjadiid nor Hawiye want a headache without purpose.

The only option for Marehan is to negotiate with Ogaden and work something out.

You cannot compare to Hirshabeelle to Jubaland. Abgaal and Hawadle are battling it out but the reigns are rotational and there is parity of power. Dabageed calls the shots in Hiiraan and Guudlaawe cannot impose, the next Abgaal VP will also be respected where Middle Shabelle is concerned by the Hawadle president. Jubaland on the other hand is a dictatorship.

[Gubbet]

There is nothing rotational. Abgaal aint giving Hirshabelle presidency back. Habeen xalay tagay bay ka tahay.

Jubbalandna maba jirto. Hala gaaro kolkii la dhiso.

The "Jubbaland" of Madoobe is like Somalia's "claim" to Somali Region, Ethiopia.

Dhuusa meeshaa ku haysaan!

[bashe19]

I feel no need to comment here. This isn't a serious discussion.

Nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic.

You are right, you have not say in jubbaland cuz you are irrelevant yar yar

[original dervish]

You don't have the credentials to address me.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

You don't have the credentials to address me.

[noer]

warning to marehan don't side wit laftagaren against gurgurte. no matter how corrupt n incompetent gurgurte is, federal supremacy is better than stealth secessionism. besides. in the long term. gurgurte n marehan have shared outlook. defeating local governors overturning federal laws. what laftagaren do to gurgurte today, a future governor farole jr gonna do to farmajo. past is prologue. gurgurte gonna be a weak president. because of badbada qaran dumis n aran jan stealth secessionists' previous successes against farmajo

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

warning to marehan don't side wit laftagaren against gurgurte. no matter how corrupt n incompetent gurgurte is, federal supremacy is better than stealth secessionism. besides. in the long term. gurgurte n marehan have shared outlook. defeating local governors overturning federal laws. what laftagaren do to gurgurte today, a future governor farole jr gonna do to farmajo. past is prologue. gurgurte gonna be a weak president. because of badbada qaran dumis n aran jan stealth secessionists' previous successes against farmajo

Marehan owe the feds nothing. Why? This is the mess made by the capital in the first place. Marehan owe the feds nothing. We refuse to fix it. Let HSM figure it out. No MX wants the top job anymore we pass

[Gubbet]

warning to marehan don't side wit laftagaren against gurgurte. no matter how corrupt n incompetent gurgurte is, federal supremacy is better than stealth secessionism. besides. in the long term. gurgurte n marehan have shared outlook. defeating local governors overturning federal laws. what laftagaren do to gurgurte today, a future governor farole jr gonna do to farmajo. past is prologue. gurgurte gonna be a weak president. because of badbada qaran dumis n aran jan stealth secessionists' previous successes against farmajo

No.

Qaan Mareexaan Qaaxo kugu maqan. Our entire clan sigil has in dripping red "eye for an eye."

Don't start non, you won't get non.

Laftagareen aim for Culusow's heart; I'll help you push it in---deep.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

warning to marehan don't side wit laftagaren against gurgurte. no matter how corrupt n incompetent gurgurte is, federal supremacy is better than stealth secessionism. besides. in the long term. gurgurte n marehan have shared outlook. defeating local governors overturning federal laws. what laftagaren do to gurgurte today, a future governor farole jr gonna do to farmajo. past is prologue. gurgurte gonna be a weak president. because of badbada qaran dumis n aran jan stealth secessionists' previous successes against farmajo

No.

Qaan Mareexaan Qaaxo kugu maqan. Our entire clan sigil has in dripping red "eye for an eye."

Don't start non, you won't get non.

Laftagareen aim for Culusow's heart; I'll help you push it in---deep.

The capital is eternally condemned. Nobody can save it. Nobody owes it loyalty. I rather let the whole project collapse before giving the satisfaction.

[noer]

i hear talking about gurgurte's high crimes n misdemeanors. treason. letting al shabab gun people down blocks from the presidential compound. corruption. 1 sided khat deal wit an outgoing kenyan leader. n plain incompetence. atmis n piracy mission extension

but u have to take him out witout breaking up the ex italian colony. maybe overthrow ur federal government. new system. explicitly ban stealth secessionism. take out kenya. or impeachment. personally i would pick new system for y'all. but atmis is there. till y'all overthrow gurgurte, federal supremacy. or formally break up the ex italian colony if ur a stealth secessionist, i expect y'all to withdraw ur objections to the annulment of somaliland's marriage with somalia

[Gubbet]

I don't know why you are obsessed with Majerten. Every single new day I witness, the stronger my attraction to their intense "independence" from any would be powerful centralized rule from Xamar.

The MJ/Puntland position is so intrinsically Marehan---were it not for our presiding over the longest, powerful, centralized Somali rule in history---I believe we may even have been known as its biggest proponent by now.

We are even less centralized than Majerteen culturally. We are more anarchic. We revolted against every rule that wasn't us. We revolted against colonalism. We revolted against the SYL single party dictatorship in the Trusteeship. We revolted in the 60's government (just look at the bloody 1964 elections where again Marehan as a "community" were the most dissenting clan literally snatching from HG through blood and fighting the shares of Dhusamareb given by SYL to them, as well as the 1959 elections where an HDM candidate was unfortunately killed in Lugh after the "SYL" court only invalidated Lugh Ferrandi for "corruption" and none of the other 99.99% districts which all had irregularities, or 1956 election where Marehan Union trumped SYL), we controlled in the Kacaan because if we didn't, i believe we would have revolted in the early first years or year, we revolted against USC salbalaar causing the stalemate, we revolted against Kenya and Jubbaland, we revolted against Galmudug in Galkacyo and Cadaado and only to nominally interact after it was brought to Dhusamareb and on our doorstep (do not imagine for a second for any reason other than placating Marehan was Galmudug brought to Dhusamareb a backwater even Cayr had never seriously invested in forgoing it infavor of Guriceel because of the Marehan connection), we revolted against the system of 80 years in 80% of our land in Ethiopia, and we are still revolting against Hassan Sh today.

We are literally the most culturally militant confederationists if we even accept outside rule including other Somalis.

Marehan are not centralists at all---sure they love dominating---but we are the Texan Rednecks of Somalis

Even "Puntland" and "Somaliland" systems cannot ever be implemented over Marehan by Marehan because we wouldn't accept that imposition from even other Marehan.

I think it may not surprise me at all if Marehan turns out to be the group that seriously ends up giving Somalilanders the actual realization of the dissolution of Somalia one day.

People really misunderstand Marehan because of their historical complexity; but their socio-cultural "type" isn't a shade different than what it was described under Hiraabe Goyta Tedros.

And believe if you will, but while publicly we superficially take on airs of grievance protesting the the descriptions of "rebellious" and "willy wiley" and trying to half argue having been 100% loyal at all times to the Imam----privately for as long as I can remember even I have consistently, without fail, smirked Hiraabe "nin rag" buu ahaa and approvingly crack a smile in pride at all the "rebellious" descriptions he was given.🫡

Btw for an interesting realistic discredit of the idea the "Imam" and his inner circle couldn't be Marehan if Hiraabe was Marehan, and as a nutshell;

Marehan was Farmaajo as central leader and Janan as regional leader----fighting 3 major battlea in Balad-Xaawo over Marehan---while the rest of Somalia watched confused---all because Farmajo as Marehan was revolting against "Jubbaland" and Janan as Marehan was revolting against the "Somali Federal Government."

Halelujar.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I don't know why you are obsessed with Majerten. Every single new day I witness, the stronger my attraction to their intense "independence" from any would be powerful centralized rule from Xamar.

The MJ/Puntland position is so intrinsically Marehan---were it not for our presiding over the longest, powerful, centralized Somali rule in history---I believe we may even have been known as its biggest proponent by now.

We are even less centralized than Majerteen culturally. We are more anarchic. We revolted against every rule that wasn't us. We revolted against colonalism. We revolted against the SYL single party dictatorship in the Trusteeship. We revolted in the 60's government (just look at the bloody 1964 elections where again Marehan as a "community" were the most dissenting clan literally snatching from HG through blood and fighting the shares of Dhusamareb given by SYL to them, as well as the 1959 elections where an HDM candidate was unfortunately killed in Lugh after the "SYL" court only invalidated Lugh Ferrandi for "corruption" and none of the other 99.99% districts which all had irregularities, or 1956 election where Marehan Union trumped SYL), we controlled in the Kacaan because if we didn't, i believe we would have revolted in the early first years or year, we revolted against USC salbalaar causing the stalemate, we revolted against Kenya and Jubbaland, we revolted against Galmudug in Galkacyo and Cadaado and only to nominally interact after it was brought to Dhusamareb and on our doorstep (do not imagine for a second for any reason other than placating Marehan was Galmudug brought to Dhusamareb a backwater even Cayr had never seriously invested in forgoing it infavor of Guriceel because of the Marehan connection), we revolted against the system of 80 years in 80% of our land in Ethiopia, and we are still revolting against Hassan Sh today.

We are literally the most culturally militant confederationists if we even accept outside rule including other Somalis.

Marehan are not centralists at all---sure they love dominating---but we are the Texan Rednecks of Somalis

Even "Puntland" and "Somaliland" systems cannot ever be implemented over Marehan by Marehan because we wouldn't accept that imposition from even other Marehan.

I think it may not surprise me at all if Marehan turns out to be the group that seriously ends up giving Somalilanders the actual realization of the dissolution of Somalia one day.

People really misunderstand Marehan because of their historical complexity; but their socio-cultural "type" isn't a shade different than what it was described under Hiraabe Goyta Tedros.

And believe if you will, but while publicly we superficially take on airs of grievance protesting the the descriptions of "rebellious" and "willy wiley" and trying to half argue having been 100% loyal at all times to the Imam----privately for as long as I can remember even I have consistently, without fail, smirked Hiraabe "nin rag" buu ahaa and approvingly crack a smile in pride at all the "rebellious" descriptions he was given.🫡

Btw for an interesting realistic discredit of the idea the "Imam" and his inner circle couldn't be Marehan if Hiraabe was Marehan, and as a nutshell;

Marehan was Farmaajo as central leader and Janan as regional leader----fighting 3 major battlea in Balad-Xaawo over Marehan---while the rest of Somalia watched confused---all because Farmajo as Marehan was revolting against "Jubbaland" and Janan as Marehan was revolting against the "Somali Federal Government."

Halelujar.

You know I was never loyal to your “chief” he’s Kenyan. Get some nuts bro. I’m still gonna humiliate him. He’s not Catholic. And I’m in aqalka cad as well. The irony is this though. Remember who was tagged in that photo. That’s all