Original dervish come in

[abdikarim86]

Anaga qudhayadu ma rabno. Ee cid alaale qaadanaysa haw timaado aqoon sigayagana hanala siiyo. Dhulkan xitaa hadaynu macdan Ka baadhi lahayn jewi nabad gelyo baan inoo saamaxayn. Dhulmahante is very disadvantaged clan for somaliland. Mustaqbal kooda iyo keenuba wuxu Ku jiraa inaynu kala tagno. Wixii iskaga keen xidhana lagu kala baxo qaabkaan kor kusoo sharaxay. Wixii intaa Ka sokeeya waa iska hadal.

I believe aakhirka si fiican baa loo kala bixi doonaa.
Demarcations will come I believe - Laakin NOT before
A formal agreement.

[abdikarim86]

^Reer Sheekh Isxaaq are least 80% of the population of Somaliland. The British merely estimated.
The voting patterns just before independence give a clear indication of the demographic split of the population.

Where do you get get the idea that the masses will accept only 50% representation to appease a minority hell bent on splitting Somaliland into its clan units?

We need ta more inclusive state structure of government to appease all the constituents. U can still be the majority but u share the political representing to accommodate the smaller communities nothing wrong with that even America does it with the niggers and latinos and the red indians

I understand the point you make - Examples of this exist the world over.

What they all have in common is that said minorities accept the status quo and if they don’t they agitate for more or agitate to leave in legitimate ways.

However the Dhulbahante extremists and their Daarood kin are not interested in this.

They want the disintegration of Somaliland - What is so difficult to understand?

This blue revolution was a concerted conspiracy.
They kill their kin who work for Somaliland for years.
They keep silent about the murders.
They blame the Isaaq for the murders.
And then they start rioting.
Police drawn from their kin kill a few protesters and suddenly
It’s Beesha Sheekh Isaxaaq have committed genocide.
We withdraw the troops so as not to give credibility to the liars and to calm the situation.
We give them space
And what do they and their elders do - Caytan, goading and pure propaganda.

How should we act - By not giving one inch.

The status quo is the only option open to us.
Let them do their dabaaldag.
Let them waive their shitty blue flags.
Let them wail all over the media about how Reer Sheekh Isaxaaq are the devil.

The dust will settle eventually

We are all over Eastern Sool.
When the dust settles and the police, civil servants, teachers
need to be paid they will behave. When businesses want to get back to normality. They will behave and run out of steam eventually.

If they opt for war - And these extremists are hot headed.
Then it MUST be defensive. It must not be offensive for this is what they crave.

It should be the same way we dealt with Khaatumo and SSC 10 years ago. Placate, cajole and when they attack military bases - Kill.

Eventually Xamar and Hargeysa will talk - And then we can be rid of them if the option is put on the table.
Wallah no Isaaq will loose a seconds sleep over Eastern Sanaag and Eastern Sool if it means we get de jure recognition.

[theyuusuf143]

10 years ago there was no cheap internet , today the toxic diaspora have access to the youth and woman . So they are radicalising the peaple against us , while we pay the money they spend on their public services. The only advantage eastern Sool has for somaliland is to hold them hostage , until they are finding solution for the rest of somaliland. Isaaq goal is very clear we will never join Somalia, why would I join peaple who share nothing between themselves. We would rather join Djibouti or even Ethiopia.

[abdikarim86]

10 years ago there was no cheap internet , today the toxic diaspora have access to the youth and woman . So they are radicalising the peaple against us , while we pay the money they spend on their public services. The only advantage eastern Sool has for somaliland is to hold them hostage , until they are finding solution for the rest of somaliland. Isaaq goal is very clear we will never join Somalia, why would I join peaple who share nothing between themselves. We would rather join Djibouti or even Ethiopia.

I don’t particularly understand what point you’re making Yuusuf.

Who on earth is asking you to join Somalia/Daarood?

Bal i yara fahansii pointka aad samaynasid

Starving them of the the oxygen they crave is the best way to deal with them.
Any other option is not in dhaqanka Islaamka iyo ka Reer Sheekh Isaxaaq.

[theyuusuf143]

10 years ago there was no cheap internet , today the toxic diaspora have access to the youth and woman . So they are radicalising the peaple against us , while we pay the money they spend on their public services. The only advantage eastern Sool has for somaliland is to hold them hostage , until they are finding solution for the rest of somaliland. Isaaq goal is very clear we will never join Somalia, why would I join peaple who share nothing between themselves. We would rather join Djibouti or even Ethiopia.

I don’t particularly understand what point you’re making Yuusuf.

Who in earth is asking you to join Somalia/Daarood?

Bal i yara fahansii pointka aad samaynasid

Starving them of the the oxygen they crave is the best way to deal with them.
Any other option is not in dhaqanka Islaamka iyo ka Reer Sheekh Isaxaaq.

Some of the posters suggested reunification with Somalia and keeping dhulbahante as part of somaliland federal state of somalia. Something we are not interested at all. Kuwaa waxan leeyahay Soomaliyey naagtii warqadeeda la siin waayaa way dhillawda. Somaliland dhilllo ahaan baanu u kiraynayna gebigeedaba. Amxaar saarnaya , ciise siinaya , cadan geynaya . iga wala Oromaanu keenayna hadaanu doono. Waxba burburinta somaliland ha moodina in wax idiinku kordhayan.

[abdikarim86]

10 years ago there was no cheap internet , today the toxic diaspora have access to the youth and woman . So they are radicalising the peaple against us , while we pay the money they spend on their public services. The only advantage eastern Sool has for somaliland is to hold them hostage , until they are finding solution for the rest of somaliland. Isaaq goal is very clear we will never join Somalia, why would I join peaple who share nothing between themselves. We would rather join Djibouti or even Ethiopia.

I don’t particularly understand what point you’re making Yuusuf.

Who in earth is asking you to join Somalia/Daarood?

Bal i yara fahansii pointka aad samaynasid

Starving them of the the oxygen they crave is the best way to deal with them.
Any other option is not in dhaqanka Islaamka iyo ka Reer Sheekh Isaxaaq.

Some of the posters suggested reunification with Somalia and keeping dhulbahante as part of somaliland federal state of somalia. Something we are not interested at all. Kuwaa waxan leeyahay Soomaliyey naagtii warqadeeda la siin waayaa way dhillawda. Somaliland dhilllo ahaan baanu u kiraynayna gebigeedaba. Amxaar saarnaya , ciise siinaya , cadan geynaya . iga wala Oromaanu keenayna hadaanu doono. Waxba burburinta somaliland ha moodina in wax idiinku kordhayan.

Ah I see.

Posters on snet do not represent the majority of Somaliland.
Listen to the media and talk to people.

Nobody entertains the silly things being suggested here.
Somaliland will not be destroyed. It has prevailed many times in much more dire circumstances.

A small clan no bigger than Jibril Abokor will not be the end.
They will run out of steam - If the status quo is kept up.

The conspiracy was organised to get in the way of Somaliland being treated as an independent nation.
I think those who organised it were attempting to thwart America’s changing attitudes towards us and the coming oil exploration.

We will prevail - Like we always.

[original dervish]

You still don't get it.
The southerners will never release you from Somalia in a million years.

Why should they......they have no interest in Dhulbahante or the land. The only thing they're concerned about is the piece of paper lodged in the UN that says they have sovereignty over all Somalia.

The only way you can succeed is by re-engagement with Xamar. A North- South power sharing agreement will give you parity with Mogadishu. It is a forerunner to independence.

The southerners are perfectly happy to have a monopoly on international politics and for the north to be in a self imposed isolation.

[abdikarim86]

I was going to make lengthy reply with respect to you and these North South Talks and isolation you keep talking about.

But then I came across Ben Dovers post.

And in any case you and your kin want the disintegration of Somaliland - Why the fuck do you keep talking about the North.

Friends, its been a while

Lets quickly take stock of how the past few months have been amazing for Isaaq, the most winning Somali clan there is, and how 2023 is probably going to be our best year yet:

- Diplomacy

Somaliland continues to raise its international profile at an unprecedented pace. Changes are happening so fast its hard to keep up, or believe how far we’ve come. This is what I said in May 2021:

- So much international attention on Somaliland and its undeniable track record of peace and progress. From former US diplomats championing the cause, to some of the most well-respected publications (e.g. The Economist, Guardian..etc) outright campaigning for de jure independence, the Somaliland cause has been picking so much momentum recently. This is undeniable.

We’ve upgraded since. The most recent inclusion of the blessed Republic of Somaliland in the United States National Defence Authorisation Act is something no one saw coming. The fact that Somaliland is now named in US legislation as potential regional partner of the United States is a monumental coup for our diplomacy, one can only imagine the opportunities this will bring us.

- Isaaq might goes global


Justified Accord 2023. Need I say more?

This is what a closer partnership between Somaliland and the United States leads to. For the first time ever, Somaliland is a participant in a US-led military exercise, and will be hosting 20 nations at Berbera to conduct the training. Another incredible feat for Duriyada. At this stage if you have an ounce of raganimo, irrespective of how you feel about it, you should be on your feet, clapping and reciting duca for Sheikh Isaxaaq. No other Somali is able to pull off what we are pulling off on the global stage -- and with no de jure recognition yet. This is literally step 1 in the Somaliland US partnership. If the murmurs I hear actually happen, Somaliland’s global standing will make a HUGE leap in the next 2-3 years.

- The richest Somali clan, gets considerably richer in 2023


Oil. Ignore everything above. Duriyada Sheekh Isaxaaq is going to be the first Somali clan to actually drill for oil and start exporting it commercially. I am following the progress closely since the wells will be drilled in my home district of Caynaba. The resources evidenced in the data collected is very much real, and $60M is allocated for drilling which should start in the next few months. Let me just say, Doofaar ismaacil will be way more bitter about losing Caynaba going forward. If you were men enough and could hold onto your ancestral land you would be celebrating today, but better men will be reaping the spoils of their forebears, inshallah.

- Birth of regional logistics juggernaut


Berbera. This is what I said in 2021:

- Berbera port development going completely parabolic. No one expected this level of progress against a backdrop of a global pandemic, but we are all seeing it. As phase 1 nears completion, work beyond its requirements is already underway. What is happening is a complete reshaping of the logistics landscape in the region with Berbera emerging as the future industrial and logistical hub.

We’ve come so far even within the last year. In addition to ongoing work expanding the port, the free zone has been completed, and the cargo handling facilities at the Berbera airport are ready to go, this is the trifecta of logistical solutions the region desperately needed. And with the Berbera corridor all but completed we will see a massive acceleration of economic growth in Berbera and the wider region. You cant beat Berbera's geography, it will be the Jebel Ali of the horn, inshallah.

When I say Isaaq is the most winning Somali clan, I don’t do so lightly, think of what our SNM mujahids overcame fighting an overwhelming foe, trusting in their Tawxiid flag and pushing on. Now look at what this small nation they created, with its human and physical capital completely destroyed by faqash, has been able to achieve with the grace of Allah.

But Allah gifts don’t stop there. Our enemies are literally going through the darkest, most bleak, nightmarish scenario imaginable:

- Qurjiile slaves


Our qurjiile subjects, braying like donkeys, begging for “walaalaha Soomaliyeed” to come save them is easily as true in 2023 as it was in the 1950s when Isaaq made their men wear women garments and recite "Gun baan ahay"

There is something very important to note here, read the qurjiile messaging carefully; they are no longer talking about freeing their land from Isaaq by force. They’ve given up on fighting. This is a huge change of rhetoric from what their elders used to say just a couple of years ago. All the boolaxoofteyn is gone, and reality is setting in. Whats happening atm is a PR exercise, and Somaliland is more than able to manage and contain thier calaacal. Just yesterday Maxamed Kaahin and Siciid Sulub were celebrating the 29th anniversary of the Somaliland Armed Forces, in laascanood .

The qurjiile whose shir was planned to last 3 days are completely stuck, 7 days on and they still don’t have a way out. They can’t declare war on us since their men don’t want to fight, and their pride won’t allow them to openly capitulate. Tough position. They tried to lean in on the tired Somalinimo card and its backfiring so spectacularly that most non-Darods, some of whom empathised with the qurjiile plight at the start, view them now as qabiil fanatics. You can see this happen in real-time on social media. Somaliland is happy to sit where it is just outside Laascanood for however long it needs. The choice in the end will be theirs, if they want, they can end this little show, the idoor master will show kindness and life will return to Laascanood, otherwise, they can continue to play hard to get, dumb recalcitrance by way of destroying their own town, cry on social media etc, and eventually they will run out of money, fuel, bullets and come back to their senses. This cycle happens every few years with the qurjiile, if any of you remember the Kalshaale incident was way more intense than whats happening at the moment.

In the end, no one is going to risk antagonising Somaliland for a small unproductive landlocked clan with nothing to offer in exchange, this is the harsh cold reality that most qurjiile know. I mean, even their Harti dhabayaco brothers are refusing to lend them a hand.


- Ilhan Omar, the little doofaar ismaacil stooge, was voted off the House Foreign Affairs Committee just yesterday.

- Boon Farmajo completely out the picture, his boni clansmen enduring worse humiliation even than the qurjiile of Somaliland (at least in the qurjiile case, their masters are benevolent Isaaq, whereas the boon marehan have the drooling cagdheer as well as KDF to serve, tough times).

- Lastly, the picture above. Stability restored in the Horn with the owners of Somaliland, owners of Djibouti, and owners of Somalia plotting the next move.


What an incredible time be Isaaq

[original dervish]

Abdikarim86..........you need to dispense with the paranoia.

How can people on social media destroy SL.....are you ok sxb.

Your people on the ground are the only people who can destroy SL. That's why it's imperative Muuse Bixi considers his next move very carefully.

SL cannot exist without the consent of the people....that much should be obvious by now.

I, as someone who believes in a northern polity distinct from the south, would advise Muuse Bixi to withdraw his forces to an acceptable distance, oog for example.

This would de-escalate a dangerous situation that can potentially spiral out of control, and pave the way for peaceful dialogue .

If SL withdraws nothing will essentially change.
HSM is not about to recognise SSC as a federal state. This has been made clear from his numerous utterances on the matter.

SL has already offered SSC autonomy within the framework of SL......and that is what will occurred if SL withdraw.

If SL chooses to go to war........it risks everything for very little gain.

[original dervish]

I forgot to add......once SL withdraws and SSC becomes autonomous it will have to pay for its own civil service, security, infrastructure etc.

The nascent state will need people of a practical and pragmatic nature, as opposed to the zealots whom are in the ascendancy today.

In power politics Soft power projection can be equally if not more effective than brute force.

[abdikarim86]

Abdikarim86..........you need to dispense with the paranoia.

How can people on social media destroy SL.....are you ok sxb.

Your people on the ground are the only people who can destroy SL. That's why it's imperative Muuse Bixi considers his next move very carefully.

SL cannot exist without the consent of the people....that much should be obvious by now.

I, as someone who believes in a northern polity distinct from the south, would advise Muuse Bixi to withdraw his forces to an acceptable distance, oog for example.

This would de-escalate a dangerous situation that can potentially spiral out of control, and pave the way for peaceful dialogue .

If SL withdraws nothing will essentially change.
HSM is not about to recognise SSC as a federal state. This has been made clear from his numerous utterances on the matter.

SL has already offered SSC autonomy within the framework of SL......and that is what will occurred if SL withdraw.

If SL chooses to go to war........it risks everything for very little gain.

Being familiar with your kin’s desires and aims does not make one paranoid.

Somaliland will NOT withdraw a single inch.
We will remain as we have always done not inside the town of Laascaanood but in Oog, Gambadhe and Tukaraq.

We will not fire the first shot. We are far too intelligent to do this. The army will be in their bases and your kinsmen will die each time they try to attack those bases.

We will not do anything else for we are Muslim and Isaaq not Daarood. We will starve you of the oxygen you crave. We will not give you and your Daarood minions the opportunity to cry genocide over the media.

Ultimately you WILL run out of steam. Civil servants, police, healthcare professionals, firemen, etc. need to be paid. Normal business must return. Then those blue flags will disappear as quickly as they came.

We will continue to progress and engage with the international community. We will continue with our economic, institutional and developmental progress however slow it may be. Inshallah in the coming years we use the opportunity of serious talks to finally be rid of you and your kin.

Until then we will keep up the status quo.
No talks, no autonomy, no northern polity, no SSC nor Khaatumo.

Ben Dover has illustrated it very well. You clansmen were meant to declare something 3 days ago. Still nothing!

[abdikarim86]

I forgot to add......once SL withdraws and SSC becomes autonomous it will have to pay for its own civil service, security, infrastructure etc.

The nascent state will need people of a practical and pragmatic nature, as opposed to the zealots whom are in the ascendancy today.

In power politics Soft power projection can be equally if not more effective than brute force.

With what money May I ask?
You do not have 2 shillings to rub together.

[Ben Dover]

Being familiar with your kin’s desires and aims does not make one paranoid.

Somaliland will NOT withdraw a single inch.
We will remain as we have always done not inside the town of Laascaanood but in Oog, Gambadhe and Tukaraq.

We will not fire the first shot. We are far too intelligent to do this. The army will be in their bases and your kinsmen will die each time they try to attack those bases.

We will not do anything else for we are Muslim and Isaaq not Daarood. We will starve you of the oxygen you crave. We will not give you and your Daarood minions the opportunity to cry genocide over the media.

Ultimately you WILL run out of steam. Civil servants, police, healthcare professionals, firemen, etc. need to be paid. Normal business must return. Then those blue flags will disappear as quickly as they came.

We will continue to progress and engage with the international community. We will continue with our economic, institutional and developmental progress however slow it may be. Inshallah in the coming years we use the opportunity of serious talks to finally be rid of you and your kin.

Until then we will keep up the status quo.
No talks, no autonomy, no northern polity, no SSC nor Khaatumo.

Ben Dover has illustrated it very well. You clansmen were meant to declare something 3 days ago. Still nothing!

Ben Dover has illustrated it very well. You clansmen were meant to declare something 3 days ago. Still nothing!

The news coming out of their shir is not pleasant at all, OD probably knows this. Their garaad are completely stuck, especially after large sums of cash being transferred to them were intercepted by Somaliland. They are realising they miscalculated and are split 3 ways on what to do now. The 3 day shir is going on to the second week now, what a shit show

[original dervish]

I will leave you with these words.
" I have come with an olive branch in one hand and a gun in the other.......do not let the olive branch fall from my hand".

Allahu a'alam!

[abdikarim86]

I will leave you with these words.
" I have come with an olive branch in one hand and a gun in the other.......do not let the olive branch fall from my hand".

Allahu a'alam!

Nobody gives a damn about your olive branch nor your gun.
You are irrelevant and will remain so!