⚠️WARNING⚠️ I CAN NOW SAY A MAJOR DAROD VS ISAAQ CONFLICT IS ON THE PRECIPICE.

[theyuusuf143]

Your admiration doesn't mean you supported it. All daaroods worked against somaliland existence.

[original dervish]

We really didn't think about you like that....its all in your twisted iidoor brain.

[theyuusuf143]

We really didn't think about you like that....its all in your twisted iidoor brain.

Can we talk

[original dervish]

Of course......as soon as you return to Oog we can engage in serious peace talks.

Until then the resistance continues indefinitely.

[mahoka]

It is funny. Everything I admired about Isaaq/Somaliland different outcome to civil war Somalia started and ended with Odayaashiina.

Nabadaad haysateen, started with odayaasha did...

Ismaqalkii idin ka dhaxeeyey, started with odayaasha did

Order, peace, community, purpose...odayaasha and some shir was the beginning.

You know for as long as I have observed Somali politicsz I deeply admired what you did differently in 1991-1993 to turn out so singularly unique/different to rest of former Somalia.

Even when I came across facts like Shirka Boorama kas and specifically was Boorama chosen and not an Isaaq town so to spread "ownership" of process. Waa walaalnimo, waa ehelnimo, waa rixin, waa naxariis---it is a gesture were I Rer Awdal that would have implicated me in bringing good faith to bear and proactively work with you on a common goal as neighbor.

When I found out the Dhulbahante Garaad Abdiqani made peace between Ciidagale and Sacad Muuse in the and the process was even valued more because the Dhullo Garaad was the guarantor waa sharfin, waa qaddarin, waa gacaltooyo.

I am MX/Rer Diini/Rer Siyaad still at war with that HG/Cayr/Rer Ayaanle in a battlefield between Balanbale and Guriceel only left to us as Rer Siyaad and Rer Ayaanle long after Darood vs Hawiye and even MX vs HG has moved on to die down as active hostilities.

I would love it to be unremarkable that they can go, visit, build business, just be there if wanted and even live in Balanbale and I could vice verse for a Rer Siyaad to Guriceel. I would love to have achieved peace with that Rer Ayaanle as you guys had done with your neighbors.

You had something beautiful, profound, worth more than weight in gols, silver, and diamonds.

Muuse destroyed something very precious and though I don't expect you to truly even understand it now, I know you will in the future.

Let’s be real sxb, you admired it because you saw the weakness of the idoor (the softest and most nacas community in the Horn of Africa) a community who on one hand cry about siyaad barre and his gov but on the other hand is too cowardly to take revenge (hiding behind project ictiraaf)


You had the Hutu wolves in your turf, these guys are real men who don’t mess about and will send you to aakhiro just because they are bored, this is how they have captured great lands and now control the destiny of Somalia

Meanwhile us habro were so soft and seeking everyone’s approval for this ictiraaf project, trying to spread our legs wide open for the white man


This is why southern darod like you And the mj hold similar views- you might hate isaaq and not want them to get ictiraaf but you wouldn’t mind living next to them since they are soft as a sponge cake


I am the biggest hater of dhuuso biixi and his mafia on this forum but let’s be real, he isn’t the one who started this/ this was started by darod who killed each other in lascanood then demanded SL get out of their lands (even tho isaaq spent millions over the years on dhulo while neglecting isaaq towns such as ceerigabo and caynaba)- initially the coward dhuuso biixi backed down and pulled out his ciidanka from lascanood and sent his envoys to the place.


This is why I admire hawiye and darod - they got balls unlike us, those few of us idoors with testicles are really enjoying the whole thing. You guys have nuked the nacasyo majority in our tribe wallahi. This is why me and old heads such as Khalid and Yusuf have had such huge contrasting outlook on the recent developments - it’s music to my ears after years of lecturing my doqon reer/ now it’s for me to laugh and say I told you so

[Khalid Ali]

I agree we should have tamed the jebertis in 1991 but siilaanyo and co wanted a peaceful resolution hoping to convince the jeberti minority in somaliland to embrace the republic how ever this does not work for the doofaar abidki ma daahiro the darood is nijaas and on thrust worthy and the best way is to kill him
Abdurahman Tuur on the other hand the muse carrre champion ordered the snm to karbaash the wasakhgali that’s why axmed more the mujahid destroyed the wasakhgali and the qurjiiles in xudun and but for the most part they were spared
Somaliland or the snm in 1991 should have totally anihilated these filthy jebertis once and for all we should have just spared the samaroon and forgave them but the jebertis should have been killed for their treason and their nijaasnimo the same way the prophet destroyed the Jews of al khayabar samada laga aqbalay to kill them because it’s a betrayel u don’t betray the oath the fat Gãrââd selebaan and Gãrââd abdiqani both signed the Declaration of Independence and in 1998 they flipfloped to majeertenia. And betrayed us. There for their blood is xalaal

[Gubbet]

Your admiration doesn't mean you supported it. All daaroods worked against somaliland existence.

Walaale, the most fundamental, basic value a parent is required to teach their child when a toddler is the distinction between what is "owned" vs what is "shared."

This is why "potty" training must be started and completed at this stage---not before and not after.

The toddler must learn that while expelling waste and having private parts are shared with everyone, their private parts and their process of expelling waste is entirely owned by their person.

So they pee like everyone, but they must dispose of their pee privately.

Yusuf, your wants, needs, desires, goals, and vision for yourself are owned by you, but having wants, needs, desires, goals and vision of self are things you share with everyone else.

The events cited in this discussion;

• Do not charge Darod being against Isaaq proprietorship over their FREEDOM..

Rather;

• It incriminates Isaaq attacking Dhulbahante fellowship to LIBERTY.

Essentially;

-HAGists/Irirists & southies w/ you because they hate Dhulbahante internalize #1

-Radical nationalists & people w/ Dhulbahante because they hate Isaaq internalize #2

-You as pro-Muuse Isaaq & the people who only care about your side internalize #3

-Dhulbahante/SSC/Isaaq traditional leaders/and their supporters against oppression like myself and Naima Qorane who want Sland soldiers removed to Oog and not have anyone attempt to force anyone internalize #4




Yusufoow---nacabkaaga/xasadkaaga iyo kan kuu hiiliyey xaqa markuu u hiiliyey kala garo!

Waxaadse sii kala garataa sababtaad dad guryahooda kula dhaqaaqday gardarro aan loo aabo-yeellin yo tabashada banaysey dhiiggaas daadashadiisu aan wali la saadaalin karin heerka uu gaarsiisanyahay cawaaqib xumada laga dhaxli doono!

[original dervish]

Khalid.......just like the present day, you didn't have the wherewithal or testicular fortitude to " annihilate ' Dhulbahante in 1991.

We are establishing SSC state of Somalia right in front of your iidoor faces, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Lamenting about what you should have done thirty years ago is like that of an old broken down whore, reminiscing about her once radiant beauty that has long ago faded .

SSC will be free inshallah.

[Gubbet]

Mohoka,

No, brother. You are troubled and do not like at all all this nasty failed state business our people seemed to have found themselves in. I have observed you for sometime and I see the effects of delayed grief and why wouldn't you judging by what I assume is your age-group your whole existence has taken place in the backdrop of post-1991 Somalia.

You don't like what Muuse has done. You detest it. You just respond to these mindless donkeys braying at the side who do not understand they hurt both Dhulbahante and their neighbors the Isaaq when they exchange Muuse for "Isaaq" and/or implicate any aspect of the fight as anything more than people of Laascaanood defending theie house. I will only say watch the Garaads and judge Dhulbahante through them not these laymen. Yea, the Garaado implicated Isaaq vs Dhulbahante but it is political strategy which is expected. The Garaads do not recognize British Somaliland dispensation having ownership over their choices of today and in fact they are fighting against that. So they have to make it a social group vs a social group to then morally argue the social group firing on the houses of the other social group is guilty of dulmi. And it is---that's why you detest this mindless hostility. To go back to why I said look at only the Garaads---note the moral clarity, even order they bring to bear regarding treatment of Somaliland wounded, proper handling and dignity for casualties and bodies, ----etfc etc etc. War is the most primitively animalistic the human animal can get and even in the midst of it and with real objective right to perceive themselves as the attacked party---the Garaad's reinforcement of shared humanity for the Isaaq fighting them is their battle for the soul of their people not to be taken far by hostilities and vengeance. Do not let vengeance ever defeat your conscience.

[original dervish]

A peculiarity of this conflict is the often under reported fact that a large number of dead and injured iidoors have been receiving treatment and burials by the people of Lascaanood.

This may astound the average layperson, to think that the perpetrators of a genocide are treated with such humility and kindness.

However, for the average Dhulbahante Islamic law....then Somali Xeer are the foundations of Dhulbahante culture.
This is an anathema to extremist iidoor secessionism, as represented by tyrant Bixi and his henchmen.

[theyuusuf143]

Of course......as soon as you return to Oog we can engage in serious peace talks.

Until then the resistance continues indefinitely.

Before we talk I demand you to designate your leader first. We can't talk with leaderless group of Cali baysteen , have proper chain of command that we can deal with. Can we talk to your president culusaw ??

[Gubbet]

"Bwana... Somali no good, every man his own Sultan"

Every able bodies male in Laas Caanood is a General fighting to defend his family and Home.

As for organizing of consensus...well the 33 Guddi with Garad Jama as 1st Speaker is there.

[Gubbet]

A peculiarity of this conflict is the often under reported fact that a large number of dead and injured iidoors have been receiving treatment and burials by the people of Lascaanood.

This may astound the average layperson, to think that the perpetrators of a genocide are treated with such humility and kindness.

However, for the average Dhulbahante Islamic law....then Somali Xeer are the foundations of Dhulbahante culture.
This is an anathema to extremist iidoor secessionism, as represented by tyrant Bixi and his henchmen.

[theyuusuf143]

Your admiration doesn't mean you supported it. All daaroods worked against somaliland existence.

Walaale, the most fundamental, basic value a parent is required to teach their child when a toddler is the distinction between what is "owned" vs what is "shared."

This is why "potty" training must be started and completed at this stage---not before and not after.

The toddler must learn that while expelling waste and having private parts are shared with everyone, their private parts and their process of expelling waste is entirely owned by their person.

So they pee like everyone, but they must dispose of their pee privately.

Yusuf, your wants, needs, desires, goals, and vision for yourself are owned by you, but having wants, needs, desires, goals and vision of self are things you share with everyone else.

The events cited in this discussion;

• Do not charge Darod being against Isaaq proprietorship over their FREEDOM..

Rather;

• It incriminates Isaaq attacking Dhulbahante fellowship to LIBERTY.

Essentially;

-HAGists/Irirists & southies w/ you because they hate Dhulbahante internalize #1

-Radical nationalists & people w/ Dhulbahante because they hate Isaaq internalize #2

-You as pro-Muuse Isaaq & the people who only care about your side internalize #3

-Dhulbahante/SSC/Isaaq traditional leaders/and their supporters against oppression like myself and Naima Qorane who want Sland soldiers removed to Oog and not have anyone attempt to force anyone internalize #4




Yusufoow---nacabkaaga/xasadkaaga iyo kan kuu hiiliyey xaqa markuu u hiiliyey kala garo!

Waxaadse sii kala garataa sababtaad dad guryahooda kula dhaqaaqday gardarro aan loo aabo-yeellin yo tabashada banaysey dhiiggaas daadashadiisu aan wali la saadaalin karin heerka uu gaarsiisanyahay cawaaqib xumada laga dhaxli doono!

Did you say niciimo qorane . Brother please respect us , and get the FK out of our affairs. Mida kale Bini aadamka inaga cilmiga iyo caqliga roon baa is dayn lahaa hadii dunida nabad loogu talo galay in lays laaya waa Natural. Muhiimadu waa la heshiiyo after every war. Si aynu wakhti u siino horumar ka. Looma baahna qof adiga oo kale ah who is not stake holder of the land contested. Mida kale weligaa hala shir iman waxay naagtaadu ama naagihiinu kuugu sheekayan.

[Gubbet]

You are Mother Theresa larping as Hitler. Everytime you cuss @ me is directly proportional to a spike in your sense of guilt.

Face it dude---this is dulmi and you know it. You are just a coward without the tiniest bit of will power to be true to his convictions.
.
And for goodnessake get a grip on your dependency to the "nature" excuse. Nature + NURTURE first of all and secondly "REASON." REASON gave us rules of engagement even in the middle of blood spilling!

P.S. I am not a stakeholder, but I am a "shareholder" and that is inspite of what you think!