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We don't take anything lightly , many anti IOG folks publicly advocate isaaq to be targeted , and we are well aware of it and well prepared . Garaad jaamac words are not twisted he says what he believes. And no one understands dhulmahante better than us. He clearly said " habar jeclo kooda yar iyo kooda weynba waa dilayna" it doesn't need any further explanation. we just acted before him kept the war in his ma dareemin neighbourhood.

Weliba si gaara baanu juffadiisa bahararsame cashar ugu dhigayna dad iyo guri toona maanu dhaafin . Waa reerka keliya ee gacan isaaq Ku dhicin weligood hada kahor. Yagu weligood ba majeerteen kay nebcaayen , anagu ismaanu soo gaadhi jirin. Laakiin sanadkan baanu jugweyn gaadhsiinayna , sababo badan awgeed horta waxay madaxa isu geliyeen anaga iyo majeerteen oo aan historically is dili jirin , waxa nagaga baxay dhaqaale badan , markaas bay khiyaano noogu bedelen iyo inay nagu soo weeraran waxaanu anagu hub iyo saanad siinay.


Jaamac siyaad Ka iyo dhulmahantahaa kale ee aanu deriska Nahay aad ugu sii fogaan mayno as long as they maintain their distance
or cooperate with us . Laakiin garaadka iyo jufidiisa si wanaagsan baanu isu baranayna.
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Oo yaad cashar u dhigi walaaloow ilkaha inta lagaa daadshaa dhulka jiiftaaye! Wagareey Wagar! :shock: :lol: Maandhoow neef tuur hadii aad dhulka la yuurarto isgaroo ummada Islaamka kula yaaban ka dul dhaqaaq waxaad isqaadi kartidbe intaad cuskato! :wtf: Mise nin tiisi gashay oo ku dhacday mid uusan ka kici karayn oo yaan la dhidhibtirin mooyee sabab kale aanu jirin ee kor laga daawanaya bilaa ninka idin ku naf baxaa oo ciideenu jawr fal gaartaa baa riyo dhalanteed ah kugu dhaliyey?! Hadee taa waa feerkii kugu dhacayo "wareer" ayaa la yiraahdaaye sida ugu dhaqsiyaha badan usoo baraarug walaaloow, nin kuu digay waa nin kuu naxaye oo walle iyo bille tallo waa beey ila gudbooneed hortaaye oran mayside! :shock: :lol:
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Reer kaa yar ee bahararsame naf kaga tegi maynee hadaad wax u taraysan wadada buuhoodle way idiin furantee soo gala mareexaanaw dagaalka. Dhabayacadii banaysan Kari wayday wadada LA to garowe . Allaysa minkum rajulun cadiim. :lol:
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Re: Guul G36 ama Gacan Libaax

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Gubbet wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:04 am
mahoka wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:21 am As for isaaq/ciise/zaylac


Isaaq doesn’t know ciise, most isaaq has no clue about ciise or samaroon - this is why the Yusuf (a fanatical supporter of the ruling mafia in hargeisa) believes that he is culturally and socially similar to ciise (who are foreign culturally to him like the oromo) are his irir allies because of the dhulo situation


Zaylac is habar magaadle property - for 200 years it was ruled by a hy suldan and for the last 120 years it has been pretty much administrated by habar awal. When ciise with French help were trying to take over zaylac we all know what happened via the sacad muse snm factions. Zaylac is a beating stick for our dir colleagues - if ciise acts up a samaroon will be installed as mayor, if samaroon act up a ciise horgal will be installed to sjw them behave. This is the simple truth today.



Jiboutawi is an Ethiopian fella and has no stake in Djibouti which is ran by different ciise clans - not even sure why he calls himself jibiutawi lol - he is angry IOG has pretty much abandoned the Ethiopian ciise.


Our colleague jabutaawi shouldn’t be angry though, the hargeisa mafia is famously controlled by IOG - from the Yusuf’s heroes (cigaal and Muuse biixi lol) - the mafia and their supporters love those two mafia leaders
Mahoka, I oppose the Dhulbahante attack and have never apologized for it or minced my words. In fact I have gone out of my way to own it and say Muuse', s back must be broken.

With that said have I been unfair to Isaaq? Have I lied about them? Do I disparage them? It is even ironic that given my stance on Las Anod, it could even be said just the opposite that I not only not disparage but I affirm them.

You are Isaaq/Sacad Muuse and Nuux Ismaaciil. It is amazing that Yuusud still doesn't get or is trying ro ignore the fact that IN THIS VERY TOPIC you and Jabuutaawi are EXACTLY him and Old Dervish.

He wants everyone to be quiet and invested in his war with OD when Jabuutaawi and Mohoka are the same as they are!

With that said,

There is a reason you are using Zaylac as a "stick" against Ciise where when you are "displeased" with Ciise you five the mayor to another Dir as you said in Samaroom.

Because Zaylac is not yours. Can anyone just give Berbera away from Ciise Muuse or Gebiley from Jibril Abokor?

Haji Shermaarke was like Siad Barre in Mogadishu who ruled for 21 years. Does that mean Mogadishu is Marehan or Darod? Even before Haji Shermarke, Abubakar the wily Afar was ruling Zaylac.

Zaylac the inner town once again was like Harar, a cosmopolitan diverse port who was principally in the hands of whatever Muslim empire at that time had control of the Seyyidis of Mecca. Haji Shermaarke, Abubakar the Afar were self made individual men who were ensconced in the Turkis Ottoman/Seyyidi Yememi, Egyptian Khedives that would be intertwined having nominal suzerainty over Zaylac the inner town's administration.

But Zaylac the region, the countryside, the nomadic population who "owned" the territory, the bringers of milk and meat to town who formed the bade of even the town's habitation was CIISE.

Nuux Ismaaciil of Sacad forever resentful of Berbera's Ciise Muuse monopolization were forever scheming against Ciise and Zaylac and the length and nature of your conflict is well established historically including the fact that Zaylac continued to be principally a deegasn of Ciise until colonialism and the calamity that happened to Ciise being divided by French Djbouti and British Somaliland.

Gubbet no offensive but you wrote few paragraphs of nonsense, it’s clear you don’t know anything of the northern somali people (Djibouti, Ethiopia and Somaliland). I didn’t read everything you wrote but I will make these 3 points to you.

Zaylac region is surrounded by 3 clans - ciise, samaroon and sacad muse who all have a stake in the place. We are not talking about a region owned by one people taken over by other people much like what you as a mareexan is experiencing for the last 40 years or so in which hawiye, ogaden, harti have encroached on your lands


The relationship sacad muse has with ciise or samaroon is not like the relationship habar jeclo has with dhulo - hj is the historical oppressor/bully of northern darod. Famously, the HJ took the caynaba region from northern harti so harti started calling a far away region cayn (cayn the Ethiopia togdheer border region which is far away from caynaba region). Ciise or samaroon is not the historic victims of sacad muse - sure some lands were taken by SM here and there but overall the situation has been calm historically. Plus all these clans were part of adal sultanate.


Nuux ismaciil is native to coastal regions from berbera to ceel sheikh, berbera is historically associated with us but we have now mostly moved to hargeisa, berbera the crown gem is in the hands on our ciise muse brothers. There is no issue between us as you comedically tried to hint at. Nuux ismaciil is a big picture clan - it doesn’t concern itself with small things such as “scheming against ciise and zaylac”, nuux ismaciil is the economic and financial muscle of the Somali people and dominates the horn region, we got no particular focus or concern on ciise, they are peaceful community for the most part. Sxb there is a reason you a mareexan from Western tip of gedo is familiar with subclan such as nuux ismaciil while I don’t know your subclans lol.
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Re: Guul G36 ama Gacan Libaax

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What is Nuh Ismail? Never ever heard of them.

No Ciise outside of few towns in northern Somalia heard of Sacad Muse/Habar Awal. Djibouti: Isaaq is all we call them.

In fact, we have our own Sacad Muse, brother of Yonis Muse, Bide Muse and Mahura Muse, all sons of Muse, collectively called Wil Muse.

No land was ever taken from Ciise by Habar Awal, period. Name one town taken from us? Read Richard Burton's book as Gubbet stated in a previous post. There was a famous raid by Ciise warriors, deep into Habar Awal territory, that killed hundreds of Habar Awal in the early to mid 19th century.

As for Zaylac, Shermarke was a vassal of the Yemenis/Turks/Meccans and his authority did not extend beyond the 4 walls of a compound in the town. His own son was slaughtered, just outside the gates by an Ciise.

@Sauron, which of the isbaheysi hunter-gatherers Habar Jeclo clan do you belong to? Bakhti baa idin xalaal aha. Know your place in history.
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mahoka wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:12 pm
Gubbet wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:04 am
mahoka wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:21 am As for isaaq/ciise/zaylac


Isaaq doesn’t know ciise, most isaaq has no clue about ciise or samaroon - this is why the Yusuf (a fanatical supporter of the ruling mafia in hargeisa) believes that he is culturally and socially similar to ciise (who are foreign culturally to him like the oromo) are his irir allies because of the dhulo situation


Zaylac is habar magaadle property - for 200 years it was ruled by a hy suldan and for the last 120 years it has been pretty much administrated by habar awal. When ciise with French help were trying to take over zaylac we all know what happened via the sacad muse snm factions. Zaylac is a beating stick for our dir colleagues - if ciise acts up a samaroon will be installed as mayor, if samaroon act up a ciise horgal will be installed to sjw them behave. This is the simple truth today.



Jiboutawi is an Ethiopian fella and has no stake in Djibouti which is ran by different ciise clans - not even sure why he calls himself jibiutawi lol - he is angry IOG has pretty much abandoned the Ethiopian ciise.


Our colleague jabutaawi shouldn’t be angry though, the hargeisa mafia is famously controlled by IOG - from the Yusuf’s heroes (cigaal and Muuse biixi lol) - the mafia and their supporters love those two mafia leaders
Mahoka, I oppose the Dhulbahante attack and have never apologized for it or minced my words. In fact I have gone out of my way to own it and say Muuse', s back must be broken.

With that said have I been unfair to Isaaq? Have I lied about them? Do I disparage them? It is even ironic that given my stance on Las Anod, it could even be said just the opposite that I not only not disparage but I affirm them.

You are Isaaq/Sacad Muuse and Nuux Ismaaciil. It is amazing that Yuusud still doesn't get or is trying ro ignore the fact that IN THIS VERY TOPIC you and Jabuutaawi are EXACTLY him and Old Dervish.

He wants everyone to be quiet and invested in his war with OD when Jabuutaawi and Mohoka are the same as they are!

With that said,

There is a reason you are using Zaylac as a "stick" against Ciise where when you are "displeased" with Ciise you five the mayor to another Dir as you said in Samaroom.

Because Zaylac is not yours. Can anyone just give Berbera away from Ciise Muuse or Gebiley from Jibril Abokor?

Haji Shermaarke was like Siad Barre in Mogadishu who ruled for 21 years. Does that mean Mogadishu is Marehan or Darod? Even before Haji Shermarke, Abubakar the wily Afar was ruling Zaylac.

Zaylac the inner town once again was like Harar, a cosmopolitan diverse port who was principally in the hands of whatever Muslim empire at that time had control of the Seyyidis of Mecca. Haji Shermaarke, Abubakar the Afar were self made individual men who were ensconced in the Turkis Ottoman/Seyyidi Yememi, Egyptian Khedives that would be intertwined having nominal suzerainty over Zaylac the inner town's administration.

But Zaylac the region, the countryside, the nomadic population who "owned" the territory, the bringers of milk and meat to town who formed the bade of even the town's habitation was CIISE.

Nuux Ismaaciil of Sacad forever resentful of Berbera's Ciise Muuse monopolization were forever scheming against Ciise and Zaylac and the length and nature of your conflict is well established historically including the fact that Zaylac continued to be principally a deegasn of Ciise until colonialism and the calamity that happened to Ciise being divided by French Djbouti and British Somaliland.

Gubbet no offensive but you wrote few paragraphs of nonsense, it’s clear you don’t know anything of the northern somali people (Djibouti, Ethiopia and Somaliland). I didn’t read everything you wrote but I will make these 3 points to you.

Zaylac region is surrounded by 3 clans - ciise, samaroon and sacad muse who all have a stake in the place. We are not talking about a region owned by one people taken over by other people much like what you as a mareexan is experiencing for the last 40 years or so in which hawiye, ogaden, harti have encroached on your lands


The relationship sacad muse has with ciise or samaroon is not like the relationship habar jeclo has with dhulo - hj is the historical oppressor/bully of northern darod. Famously, the HJ took the caynaba region from northern harti so harti started calling a far away region cayn (cayn the Ethiopia togdheer border region which is far away from caynaba region). Ciise or samaroon is not the historic victims of sacad muse - sure some lands were taken by SM here and there but overall the situation has been calm historically. Plus all these clans were part of adal sultanate.


Nuux ismaciil is native to coastal regions from berbera to ceel sheikh, berbera is historically associated with us but we have now mostly moved to hargeisa, berbera the crown gem is in the hands on our ciise muse brothers. There is no issue between us as you comedically tried to hint at. Nuux ismaciil is a big picture clan - it doesn’t concern itself with small things such as “scheming against ciise and zaylac”, nuux ismaciil is the economic and financial muscle of the Somali people and dominates the horn region, we got no particular focus or concern on ciise, they are peaceful community for the most part. Sxb there is a reason you a mareexan from Western tip of gedo is familiar with subclan such as nuux ismaciil while I don’t know your subclans lol.
Everything you said about yourself/clan was said at the "expense" of someone else/group, do you know that Mahoka? Every single thing including even me knowing your subgroup which you stated precisely at the "expense" of my clan despite the fact my recent experience in Hargeisa and Somaliland is something well reflected here.

Sxb, you are indeed from a great clan and one I myself have stated multiple times gets nothing but positive inclinations from me so it puzzles me to see you display classic behavior mimicking uncomfortability or even apprehension.

You "must" insult me to "affirm" yourself.

So, Mahoka, controlling for everything including whatever it is you could be talking about, sxb I want to give you constructive criticism about "mentality."

Mother Theresa was asked once "are you anti-war." She said "I am pro-peace."

What is the difference? Both mean absence of war and peace. It is even interchangeable?

Well, there is a difference; Mentality.

Anti + war = being AGAINST something/resisting/pessimistic/defensive

Pro + peace = being FOR something/heralding/optimistic/proactive

The difference is Mentality, Mahoka. Your mentality is how you situate something, how you reference, how you even relate to your environment.

I want you to say everything you said about your clan without insulting me, any other people, or any other group.

I am not being facetious or an ass or trying to look cute. You are smart guy. It is time you became emotionally smart as well.
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Sauron is GX, from what I recall.
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original dervish wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:41 am Sauron is GX, from what I recall.
Isaaq waa isaaq OD. You will learn that lesson the hard way and no amount of praying to Gx will change that.
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Oraahdi Garaad ka in GX la gumeeyey iyo inay tihiin cadow ga gudaha maanta ayay ayagiba garteen inay ka dagaal laman oo is xoreyan
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skywalker25 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:33 am
original dervish wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:41 am Sauron is GX, from what I recall.
Isaaq waa isaaq OD. You will learn that lesson the hard way and no amount of praying to Gx will change that.
He already knows it that garxajis Bari are the only isaaqs who are More likely uproot him from sanaag. He he will definitely learn it the hardway. For 30 years isaaqs appeased the dhuloos like no any other community in somaliland. Today things changed we gonna destroy them beyond repair. In the future weligeed dib loo arki maayo isaaq sympathy u haya dhuloos. Never .

Dhul ay leeyihiin na ma jirto , dhulka waxna isaaq baa baa leh waxaynu gaadhi waynana waa disputed territory. Xitaa Mogadishu waa uga daba tegayna. Wax loo ansaxin karaana ma jirto oo aanay habarjeclo approve garayn. Illeen meesha hooyadood malehee.
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skywalker25 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:33 am
original dervish wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:41 am Sauron is GX, from what I recall.
Isaaq waa isaaq OD. You will learn that lesson the hard way and no amount of praying to Gx will change that.
We are at war with all iidoors......what are you talking about?

Someone was wrongly ascribing hj to Sauron......I was merely correcting that.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:44 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:33 am
original dervish wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:41 am Sauron is GX, from what I recall.
Isaaq waa isaaq OD. You will learn that lesson the hard way and no amount of praying to Gx will change that.
He already knows it that garxajis Bari are the only isaaqs who are More likely uproot him from sanaag. He he will definitely learn it the hardway. For 30 years isaaqs appeased the dhuloos like no any other community in somaliland. Today things changed we gonna destroy them beyond repair. In the future weligeed dib loo arki maayo isaaq sympathy u haya dhuloos. Never .

Dhul ay leeyihiin na ma jirto , dhulka waxna isaaq baa baa leh waxaynu gaadhi waynana waa disputed territory. Xitaa Mogadishu waa uga daba tegayna. Wax loo ansaxin karaana ma jirto oo aanay habarjeclo approve garayn. Illeen meesha hooyadood malehee.
Have you no shame sxb.......you've been threatening to take our homes, businesses and lands in Sanaag since the start of the war.

The reality is your people couldn't even build a single barked, before being shot in the face and chased off by a handful of reer miyi.


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original dervish wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:55 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:44 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:33 am

Isaaq waa isaaq OD. You will learn that lesson the hard way and no amount of praying to Gx will change that.
He already knows it that garxajis Bari are the only isaaqs who are More likely uproot him from sanaag. He he will definitely learn it the hardway. For 30 years isaaqs appeased the dhuloos like no any other community in somaliland. Today things changed we gonna destroy them beyond repair. In the future weligeed dib loo arki maayo isaaq sympathy u haya dhuloos. Never .

Dhul ay leeyihiin na ma jirto , dhulka waxna isaaq baa baa leh waxaynu gaadhi waynana waa disputed territory. Xitaa Mogadishu waa uga daba tegayna. Wax loo ansaxin karaana ma jirto oo aanay habarjeclo approve garayn. Illeen meesha hooyadood malehee.
Have you no shame sxb.......you've been threatening to take our homes, businesses and lands in Sanaag since the start of the war.

The reality is your people couldn't even build a single barked, before being shot in the face and chased off by a handful of reer miyi.


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Because I know the fact that we couldn't host you there any more. You better sell your home to me. Hadaad ba hanti leedahay .
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Your one funny iidoor......you should have gone in to comedy or joined the circus as a clown cretin.

I will make a prediction for you to remember.
When the 3rd iidoor civil war is finished your clan will be no more.

Remember this date 4th August 2023.

:Obama:
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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:49 am Your one funny iidoor......you should have gone in to comedy or joined the circus as a clown cretin.

I will make a prediction for you to remember.
When the 3rd iidoor civil war is finished your clan will be no more.

Remember this date 4th August 2023.

:Obama:
Habarjeclo is million times smarter than dhiloos , don't worry for us. We have clear plans for every thing. One thing is for sure isaaq fked you up in your own home while all dooros are watching you like bunch of goats. Daraawiish baan ahaa, harti baan ahay , daarood baan ahay , intiiba waxba kuu tari wayday. Xitaa somalinimo kuu shaqayn wayday. Rajadaadi waxay kusoo ururtay habaar, ilaa garaad kiinii baa na habaarayey shalay oo lahaa dhulbahantaw ilaahay barya in isaaq baaburtu la qalibanto. Masaabiirna wadada u dhiga Kkkkkkkk. Aniga wax shaki ahi igagama jiraan inaan Waxan doono kaa qaadi Karo including your wife.
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