The enemy amongst us: The Somali Christians

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[quote="SomaliLight"] My question is where does the unbeliever denounce islam at the theoretical or as practiced in mainstream? I think all religion must be dissected theoretically first, because mainstream practice is always subject to change. [quote]


There is NO theoretical Islam, Islam is what muslims do AND believe. Of what use is theoretical Islam to us nonbelievers? Say a muslim gang with machetes is charging at you ostensibly with the intent to hack you to death as they believe it is their religious obligation, what will you do? Tell them theoretical Islam says make peace not violence?! Of course not. When we have to ACT, when we have to make a valued judgement about Islam we have only the actions and believes of Muslims to go by. For the same reason there is no theoretical communism divorced of communists or Nazisim and Nazis or Maoist and Maoism.

Getting all philosophical about theoretical Islam is fine and dandy. It is a luxury you can afford for NOW. But when push comes to shove and need to make the correct decision about Islam only what muslims do and say matters. I wouldn't trust my life on fickle, worry bead dangling Imaams who quizzically flip through Islamic tomes over my fate. Hell no!



[quote]So for the sake of analysis, the Quran is a far superior work compared to the Bible, yes the nomad mohammed and scribblers in my opinion did greater work than John and matthew's collection of work. Anyone exposed to a copy of the bible in translation will tell you it is not as well written as the quran, the Tone of the quran is direct, and this speaker always knows his audience. I will give credit where it is due.[quote]


The Bible is far suprior text in the way it's organised, edited and written. It is much much bigger text, 66 books in total and I have read some of them. Quality wise bible is light years a head. Anyone least bit familiar with either text will confirm this... and oh yeah a good junk of the Quran is unintelligable while another good junk is repetative.

With regard to giving credit where it's due, neither deserve any. Both are lies, absurd and have caused immeasurable human suffering. Passing favourable opinion on either text is really questionable!!!!!!!



[quote]YOu see atheists have a way of assuming that if the described God is not perfect than he cannot exist! [quote]


Notwithstanding the fact atheist come in all stripes and shapes, most only posit the natural state of things -- non-existance. There is no reasor or evidence to believe God exists and were it not for religions and holy men drumming this into our brain we wouldn't have such faith in invisible, never present when needed diety.



[quote]But is it not possible for a terrible God to exist?[quote]


Yes, as much as it is possible unicorns and mother goose exist. Plenty of things are possible, many don't. Speculating such possibilities is pointless exercise.



[quote]Thus, if God is contradicting and not good/loving = NO God. But how irrational that is for people of thought?[quote]


No, if God is self-refuting he don't exist. His nature -- good or bad -- is inconsequential. No self-refuting entity exists.




[quote]But the reality of our present uncertainity regarding God also points out that a God may exist indeed, and he may be just that a cruel and horrible one. [quote]


God doesn't exist and you don't have to worry about Hell if that is what's really behind all of this unsettling thoughts. If he existed we would know of his existance, one way or another. Uncertainty is JUST that uncertainty, no basis exists to insert God for what we don't know. That is how God/s first started, ppl using them as explanation for what they didn't understand. You're just doing the same thing. THere is NO logic between uncertainty and the possibility God may exist you create here!

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Amazing atheist arguing.

Somalishite apostates should be given a chance to return but if they refuse kill them there and then.