Is there any conflict between Islam and playing sports?

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:52 am

The percentages are low because Muslim women don't believe that Muslim women should be doing anything other than staying home and making babies.

Copy.&.Paste · Post by **Copy.&.Paste** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:05 am

^ U are not the spokes person for Muslim women . Muslim women have dreams and ambitious like everyone that go beyond the scope of family making.

anyways i can't keep going back forth like this, right now. i have essay paper to work on. i'll leave this thread alone for awhile lol

Ciao

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:35 am

thats not our religion. we need to find the true religion we once knew

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:48 am

why is it so hard for you to understand that, as muslims we'll do things acording to our religion whether you like it or not. why does everything has to be in agreement to mad mac's views on things?

dont you ever get tired of trying to impose your kafir ways on others?

we muslims, you kafir.

so give it a rest dog.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:51 am

Biko
Just don't claim your equal, when you're obviously and demonstrably inferior.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:59 am

what does that mean? the only inferior thing is you mad mac. cos obviously something i said above about keeping your none-islamic ways to yourself must have touch a row nerve. hence the 'inferior' coment.

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:02 am

[quote="biko"]why is it so hard for you to understand that, as muslims we'll do things acording to our religion whether you like it or not. why does everything has to be in agreement to mad mac's views on things?

dont you ever get tired of trying to impose your kafir ways on others?

we muslims, you kafir.

so give it a rest dog.[/quote]

and what about muslims that dont agree with your opnions/view would you call them kafir to?

i dont agree with macs views afterall he is a non muslim but yes i agree with him on some points but i disagree with him on the way he insults muslims and islam but im not god so i will leave that to his judger

we'll do things acording to our religion whether you like it or not.

what makes you think that you are right cuss you heard that of imam/sheikhs ore you found that on the hadith means that than you are right that just doesnt make sense.

we muslims, you kafir.

since you believe so blindly in your religion than dont you know that god forbids what you said what makes you a good muslim and a kafir didnt god said leave my ppl alone and i will be the only judger. thats what i ment with muslims of today and ofcourse will the enemy of islam laugh and insults muslims aslong we cant find our religion and cant agree with some simple facts. and today evrybody believe in their own opnions and views and aslong muslims are divided and aslong the ummah is weak and dead will ofcourse our enemy use their divide and rule strategy but who to blaim muslims who are today munafaqiin(hypcorites) to blind to see and cant understand few facts muslims who today forgot their religion but yet are insulting and putting their fingers on others would god help you than? i dont think so. and by the way god forbids beeing a hypocrite it stands in the quran but yet we ignore it but yet we got the balls to insult others and yet we think that we are the chosen ppl even if we do something wrong god wil forgive us since im a muslims but they the jews and christians and fake muslims will go to hell thats what i mean with hypcorites that is the same thing when some jewish tribes said to prophet muhammed we will fight among you in the jihaad but other muslims they told that muslims had lost the battle and that prophet muhammed was beeing killed even if they knew he was alive it stands in the quran thats what we doing today but no that only matters for kafirs and not muslims

abtii do you really think that i and some others like to insult our religion ofcourse not lakiin we see just some facts lets talk about the reality islam has nothing to do with muslims oo diintood iilobay i didnt insult islam but some muslims who are hypocrites. no hard feelings to those who know their religion.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:15 am

faqash-killer

lets seperate the differences between muslims and muslims against kafirs. i believe that as muslims me and you will not agree on everything but that doesnt mean we should scream jihad and chop each others neck. Laughing

we can sit and discuss untill one of us is proven wrong or we come into an agreement.

but mad mac is a kafir who deny islam and therfore has no right to be involved in islamic issues that doesnt effect him..i.e..'sportswear for muslim women'.

thats no different than whats going on in somalia right now. there was a problem between the ICU and the TFG. two somali group who came to a deadlock, but one decided to behave like a spineless cowards that they are and got the help of smelly xabashos.

i beleive that when it comes to brothers, there should never be an excuse to let an outsider come between us. whether its brothers in islam or brothers in somalinimo.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:19 am

Biko
My point is, when you make extravagent claims above Islamic society (which admitedly you don't tend to do, but others like Aiman do), then you leave yourself open to critic. Furthermore, when you make a post on a discussion board, then it's up for discussion.

If Muslims want to say "Fine, we are not going to compete in international sporting venues because we don't believe in it" that's OK. But be honest and up front about it.

Lastly, what of your Somali brothers and sister who are non-Muslim? I'll be the first to admit the numbers are small, but they do exist.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:25 am

[quote="MAD MAC"]Biko
My point is, when you make extravagent claims above Islamic society (which admitedly you don't tend to do, but others like Aiman do), then you leave yourself open to critic. Furthermore, when you make a post on a discussion board, then it's up for discussion.

If Muslims want to say "Fine, we are not going to compete in international sporting venues because we don't believe in it" that's OK. But be honest and up front about it.

Lastly, what of your Somali brothers and sister who are non-Muslim? I'll be the first to admit the numbers are small, but they do exist.[/quote]
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no one is trying to stop from taking part in disscusions on the general forum, but i was trying to pint out your attitude to always try and force your views down our troat even thought its unislamic or against some islamic teachings.

discussion is ok, but your attitude stinks.

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:48 am

[quote="biko"]faqash-killer

lets seperate the differences between muslims and muslims against kafirs. i believe that as muslims me and you will not agree on everything but that doesnt mean we should scream jihad and chop each others neck. Laughing

we can sit and discuss untill one of us is proven wrong or we come into an agreement.

but mad mac is a kafir who deny islam and therfore has no right to be involved in islamic issues that doesnt effect him..i.e..'sportswear for muslim women'.

thats no different than whats going on in somalia right now. there was a problem between the ICU and the TFG. two somali group who came to a deadlock, but one decided to behave like a spineless cowards that they are and got the help of smelly xabashos.

i beleive that when it comes to brothers, there should never be an excuse to let an outsider come between us. whether its brothers in islam or brothers in somalinimo.[/quote]

first fact. im glad that you understood my point. however this doesnt only matter for muslims but for religions as whole. now you hear that muslims are terrorists and shit we must show them that they are wrong we must show them that islam is a peacefull religion prophet muhammed awood markuu haystay didnt you saw him insulting and killing jews and christians we lived peacefull next to each other and jewish and christians had the same right as muslims their was a hadith saying that umar ibn khattab was not so kind to a jewish guy the jewish guy went to prophet muhammed and told his story this upsetted prophet muhammed and he said to umar ibn khadab what you did was not correct i want that you appoligise him. and i think you already heard the story when umar ibn khadab build synagoges for jews and christians. so what i want to say is it doesnt make sense if you say i can talk to you and we can express our views and opnions and not to mad cuss he is a non muslim and thus a kafir.

second fact i agree with you and i think that their are rules here so i think if he is joining a islamic/somali site than he needs to respect the rule. but like i said on some points he's right but so i believe in that you should prove it why he's wrong. not that you say he is a kafir so you are wrong so i dont believe in your opnions/view thats just unislamic. but like i said i disagree with him on the way he insults islam as whole. and you can say you go against the rule instead you call him a kafiir. i hope you understood my points.

third fact fair enough but i think that has to do with siyasaad more than religion. and thats what i disagree with the uic declaring a jihaad on habaashiis although they are doing that for their own interest.cuss they are only christians but did and other somalis blaimed other somalis who killed raped and destroyed our country is that not unislamic? but yet when kafirs do it like you like to call them than suddenly we can put our fingers and blaim them for evrything. just like i said if we are divided today than what do you think of guys who are anti-islam ore who wants to occupie islamic country for some interests dont expect anything from them it was we who invited them in our own country if 2 brothers are divided would ofcourse the other guy who is their enemy use their divide and rule strategy and would make alliance with the other brother thats just siyasaad but the problem is here is that we ignore that fact but when they invade our country than is it suddenly them fault and kafirs must be destroyed thats what i ment with beeing a hypocrite

Copy.&.Paste · Post by **Copy.&.Paste** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:53 am

[quote="fagash_killer"]thats not our religion. we need to find the true religion we once knew[/quote]

I don't understand. All Islamic observances must be followed first of course. if muslims give value to sports they can modifying things to suit them islamically.

if it is a big deal and there is a situation where sport or sports wear can't meet the criteria then

women also have the alternative of competing against each other privately away from men if they feel they can't follow obligations.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:37 am

faqash-killer

i wasnt attacking mad mac nor am saying his a kafir who should always be ignored or dismissed. i know he makes lots of sense on lots of issues; even more so than some msulims in here, but its just this atitude of his where he always feels he knows better and we should see things from his side.

there are lots of none msulims in here but his about the only one that never get tired of forcing his views on us.

muslim-man · Post by **muslim-man** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:40 am

Biko,

Notice how Mad Mac can never resist a Muslim/Islam related thread? Laughing

Talk about being obsessed!

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:42 am

i know. i think he should get a prize for been the most consistant hypocrit kafir in snet.

at least we have to give him that.

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