Ayaan Hirsi

[#1baller]

[quote="Alluring"]"The ascendancy of Islam and the impact that it has given the world is perhaps more superior than any other religion or social impact to date."

This is based on who's idealogy??? yours or aristocrats??? Get real you are delusional to say the least"


"Human beings as time has evolved change behavioral propensity, when people make false assessments of Islam people tend to get mad, but does that mean they are animalistic or moronic of course not. When someone is passionate about something, they tend to give their heart, soul and mind to that particular "thing" and in this case being Islam".[/quote]

If you are confident in your religion, then explain to me why is it you label a person an " infidel" if they disagree with your religious theology. What does that say about you as a person when someone points that out in your qur'an?

If I was as stupid as you are, I'd actually believe your analogy but I'm not. You speak of civilisation. Anytime a religion supports ignorance and barbaric displays (jihad) in the name of God that is no religion to follow.

[Alluring]

1baller....

How many things are you aware of having to do with the political and social elements of Islam? People, who tend to have a bad opinion on Islam, are those who do not know of the basic philosophy and get their opinions based of predisposed media. Ayaan Hirsi should not be considered a scholar or a person with profound knowledge on Islam, discarding a religion for money, shows us who she is as an individual.

[neocon_2007]

Basra sumed it up

Nothing special about the women the West is figuring her out first hand. Shes perfect in the US, whether her entire lies become exposed they'll still eat up what shes got to say about Islam.

She denounced Islam in 1999.

[michael_ital]

Dude, google her and read about her movie "Submission" (and her other inflammatory books) the one that got Van Gogh killt, and a a fatwah issued against her.
Also, shes labelled "infidel" for a LOT more than just "disagreeing" And again, research her movie "Submission". She's a blasphemer and an infidel

LooooooooooooooooooooooL@ Basra!!! walaal, you slay me!!!!!!

[#1baller]

[quote="Koronto91"]#baller,

Living in a Muslim country doesn't mean you automatically become knowledgable about Islam. Many uninterested Muslim are oblivious to their religion. Furthermore, there is no need for the lies & the blasphemy that she resorted to. A civilized person would have handled this issue differently.[/quote]

Koronto,

I never stated that. What I said was that she would be more inclined to know more about the religion than someone like myself. You cannot deny information when more than one person is saying the same thing about muslims and Islam in particular. As much as your people might try to deny it. The facts are there in bold.

[michael_ital]

The only way you'll get the "bold facts" is to live amongst Muslims. NOT getting them from the media.

[#1baller]

[quote="Basra-"]Mj Pride.


"Baller of course there is nothing wrong with being an opportunist. We all are --in away, and as you brilliantly pointed it-this is the land of opportunity, America. But its a shame if she used the name of Islam in vain to gain her opportunity. Its even more shame for you to support her and ask for 'proof' of her anti Islam stance. Or are you suffering from Mjlicious pride? [/quote]

Once again....I'm not going to buy into your baseless argument that the woman is doing this for money since you have no facts to support your claim which = pure speculation on your part. I'm sure she's more educated than that. ffs she was a top level gov't official in the netherlands

[Koronto91]

[quote="#1baller"]I never stated that. What I said was that she would be more inclined to know more about the religion than someone like myself. You cannot deny information when more than one person is saying the same thing about muslims and Islam in particular. As much as your people might try to deny it. The facts are there in bold.[/quote]

You might find it odd, but when I lived in Somalia, my Islamic knowledge was very limited. Living in the US, I've found easily accessible Islamic multimedia which rekindled my interest in Islam. My point is that living in a Muslim land doesn't mean that a Muslim knows with accuracy the religion of Islam. Growing up, we used to believe all sorts of things which we later learned were eitheir fabricated or misinterpreted e.g. wife beating was socially accepted as a religious obligation, when in fact it is forbidden in Islam.

[neocon_2007]

[quote="#1baller"][quote="Basra-"]Mj Pride.


"Baller of course there is nothing wrong with being an opportunist. We all are --in away, and as you brilliantly pointed it-this is the land of opportunity, America. But its a shame if she used the name of Islam in vain to gain her opportunity. Its even more shame for you to support her and ask for 'proof' of her anti Islam stance. Or are you suffering from Mjlicious pride? [/quote]

Once again....I'm not going to buy into your baseless argument that the woman is doing this for money since you have no facts to support your claim which = pure speculation on your part. I'm sure she's more educated than that. ffs she was a top level gov't official in the netherlands [/quote]

#1 baller go and buy the book. No one here has made any baseless claims seeing you have absolutely zip facts to refute claims made by others here.

[Basra-]

LolMikey ---sorry sweety. looool



Actually i am kinda impressed with myself with naming this pride mjs have of themselves. Its called MJlicious-- do u think its time to add it on our somali/english dictionary?


baller??? huh??? baseless arguements??? The woman purposely seeks all sort of attention. She is ruthlessly ambitious, she went from a refugee to parliament member in Holland.-- She is insane,strictly by her large protrudely dark hallow eyes, she is lonely and the only thing she really cares for is her dad, and he rejected her. The couple of pages i read of her in the book store was her reference to her dad. She looooves her dad--obiously a daddys girl. That explains alot, she has always seeked the attention of her dad.In the book she larments about her dad hanging up the phone on her.Its classic--abused daddys girl. loooool This poor soul is counter-reacting to her dissapointing her dad-- the only thing she loves. She is reacting in this controversial manner to feed her void of emptiness , she is obviously replacing her dads lost love with endless infamy. I actually feel sorry this poor majeeerten woman walaahi.

loooooooooooooool

[#1baller]

[quote="Alluring"]1baller....

How many things are you aware of having to do with the political and social elements of Islam? People, who tend to have a bad opinion on Islam, are those who do not know of the basic philosophy and get their opinions based of predisposed media. Ayaan Hirsi should not be considered a scholar or a person with profound knowledge on Islam, discarding a religion for money, shows us who she is as an individual.[/quote]

Again you like Basra are speculating about the woman's motives for being a public figure. You have absolutely zero facts that the woman is doing what you claim she is. If anything it proves my point that when someone outside the box addresses social and political issues within Islam you people become very defensive when you hear facts that you don't like. That is a normal trait with individuals who live in an enclosed environment.

[neocon_2007]

[quote="Basra-"]LolMikey ---sorry sweety. looool



Actually i am kinda impressed with myself with naming this pride mjs have of themselves. Its called MJlicious-- do u think its time to add it on our somali/english dictionary?


baller??? huh??? baseless arguements??? The woman purposely seeks all sort of attention. She is ruthlessly ambitious, she went from a refugee to parliament member in Holland.-- She is insane,strictly by her large protrudely dark hallow eyes, she is lonely and the only thing she really cares for is her dad, and he rejected her. The couple of pages i read of her in the book store was her reference to her dad. She looooves her dad--obiously a daddys girl. That explains alot, she has always seeked the attention of her dad.In the book she larments about her dad hanging up the phone on her.Its classic--abused daddys girl. loooool This poor soul is counter-reacting to her dissapointing her dad-- the only thing she loves. She is reacting in this controversial manner to feed her void of emptiness , she is obviously replacing her dads lost love with endless infamy. I actually feel sorry this poor majeeerten woman walaahi.
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Id like to see Basra duke it out against Ayan. My moneys on Basra

[michael_ital]

looooooooooooooooooooooooool@ wallahi


#1 dude i've addressed 2 posts to you, both of which you've ignored. proving what i've suspected all along. You are here to incite conflict. Agai, read more about her and her work, and you'll see what she's really about. And to find out about Islam amnd Muslims, live amongst them, not reading about them in the media from the likes of Hirsi.

[neocon_2007]

[quote="#1baller"][quote="Alluring"]1baller....

How many things are you aware of having to do with the political and social elements of Islam? People, who tend to have a bad opinion on Islam, are those who do not know of the basic philosophy and get their opinions based of predisposed media. Ayaan Hirsi should not be considered a scholar or a person with profound knowledge on Islam, discarding a religion for money, shows us who she is as an individual.[/quote]

Again you like Basra are speculating about the woman's motives for being a public figure. You have absolutely zero facts that the woman is doing what you claim she is. If anything it proves my point that when someone outside the box addresses social and political issues within Islam you people become very defensive when you hear facts that you don't like. That is a normal trait with individuals who live in an enclosed environment. [/quote]


#1 why is she in the US?

[#1baller]

[quote="Koronto91"][quote="#1baller"]I never stated that. What I said was that she would be more inclined to know more about the religion than someone like myself. You cannot deny information when more than one person is saying the same thing about muslims and Islam in particular. As much as your people might try to deny it. The facts are there in bold.[/quote]

You might find it odd, but when I lived in Somalia, my Islamic knowledge was very limited. Living in the US, I've found easily accessible Islamic multimedia which rekindled my interest in Islam. My point is that living in a Muslim land doesn't mean that a Muslim knows with accuracy the religion of Islam. Growing up, we used to believe all sorts of things which we later learned were eitheir fabricated or misinterpreted e.g. wife beating was socially accepted as a religious obligation, when in fact it is forbidden in Islam.[/quote]

Not only is that forbidden in Islam, it's forbidden in other religions as well but it doesn't mean it still doesn't happen now does it.? I'm tryna give you the benefit of the doubt but you keep proving my point bruh.