Imam Ahmed Gurey's clan is finally solved.

[King-of-Awdal]

Warsame101

Just research the significance of the name gadarbuursa and u shall find ur answer. now i rest my case.

[Warsame101]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]Warsame101

Just research the significance of the name gadarbuursa and u shall find ur answer. now i rest my case. [/quote]

Gadabursi, the descendants of Imam Cali Siciid. Several Dir subclans participated in the campaigns of both Imams (Axmed and Nuur) but Gadabursi was not one them. The reason being was that Gadabursi was too small at that time. Imam Cali Siciid died in 1392 and the Imam Axmed and Nuur campaigns lasted from 1527 to 1570. However, the wars of Imam Cali Siciid have been documented in Arabic manuscripts. He used to be general for a certain ruler of Adal.

[xoogSADE14]

King-of-Awdal

DS and WG don't argue, they take part in intellectual debates and they back their claims with hard facts not some fictional "ayeeyo said this and awoowe said that" nonsense.

[The_Emperior5]

enemy is right axmed gurray was nin arab aah uu beesha reer sh isxaaq ka dhashay uu baha magaada aah becous we where the first subclan that suport the imam ahemd iebrahien al ghazi

[xoogSADE14]

Khalid

Actually Isaaq and Hawiye aren't even mentioned as taking part in the great Imaam's campaigns.

[AbdiWahab252]

Who cares about his qabiil

Imam Ahmed Gurey is a man who 100% of Somalis are proud of.

I have never seen such a beloved Somali figure like him.

[xoogSADE14]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Who cares about his qabiil

Imam Ahmed Gurey is a man who 100% of Somalis are proud of.

I have never seen such a beloved Somali figure like him.[/quote]

CO-SIGN.

[Advocatar]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Who cares about his qabiil

Imam Ahmed Gurey is a man who 100% of Somalis are proud of.

I have never seen such a beloved Somali figure like him.[/quote]


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I hate when people claim he was an arab with no evidence.

[King-of-Awdal]

xoogSADE14

I have no time for fake documents, cause the most respected book of all time of the events of that time is Futal-AL-Habash and i have read it and in no single phrase does it mention him as Marexaan so i suggest u go read it, as i said NO MAREXAAN HAS EVER BEEN BORN IN SAYLAC NOT ONLY THAT NO DAROOD HAS EVER BEEN BORN IN THAT CITY. so now move.

[The_Emperior5]

[quote="xoogSADE14"]Khalid

Actually Isaaq and Hawiye aren't even mentioned as taking part in the great Imaam's campaigns.[/quote]

here my friend


The fatuh al Habash mentions the Habar Magadle (Maha Dir) by name as one group which Gureey try to draw into his camp.Nevertheless, the Habar Awal and Habar Yonis joined the Gurey jihaad.

For Example, the Makaahil of the Habar Awal was the son of an Amhara princesse who was broght back to Somali by a Habar Awal worrior. The Amhara princes asked her captor one favour which to name the first son. After she bore the son she named him Makahil "Micheal" the angel. As a matter of fact many Mahe Dir like the Habar xabuush or Habar Jeclo were also named in such a case.

According to the Fatuh Al Habash, "the fierce and rebellious Isaaq, Issas, and Afar clans who lived close to these groups and was know as "Oda Cali" caused Guurey many problems because as soon as the attacked the Habash enemies and gained some booty they would return to their territorie this angered Imam Ahmed who wanted a displined army. Ali and Mataan a brothers in-law of Gurey and Ahmed Nuur a knephew or Gurey, who later married Gurey's wife Batiyo Delwambero(Dawmbiro). It is interesting to not The name Dalwambero. It is no accidental it sounds like Dombiro. The Darood Somali clans under Imam Ahmed Gurey where led by another Garad who was know as Guuray and he was married to Delwambera's sister Mardiya. It was at this period that the Madaxweyn Dir enlisted the Yabbare, Geeri, and Harla, also it was at this juncture of history that the Darood confuse history.

1) The Darood confuse to distinct persons. Namely, Imam Ahmed Ibrahim Ghazali Aragsame the proper Ahmed Guray and the Garad Gurey who led the Darood armies. After centuries they think that their Garad whose name is mentioned in the Fatuh Al Habash as Guray is the same as Ahmed Gurey. So the legacy of Axmed Gurey is not limited to the Gababuursi or Ciisa or Gurgure but as touched all Somalis.


it mentiont a subclan of the sacadmuse the makahiiil sxb

[xoogSADE14]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]I have no time for fake documents, cause the most respected book of all time of the events of that time is Futal-AL-Habash and i have read it and in no single phrase does it mention him as Marexaan so i suggest u go read it,[/quote]

loooool

War ninyahow maxaad isu ceebeeyneeysaa?

Let me guess Fataxul Xabesh states that the great Imaam was indeed Gudarbuursi? You must have Fataxul Xabesh "The Samaron Limited Edition".

First you said these documents were written by Maj. Gen. Pres. M.S.B. Now that the publishing dates were provided you're saying that they're fake. Well since you're claiming these historic documents that DS & WG brought are fake why don't you bring ANY documents that disproof them?

p.s. I'll wait for you to write back "I don't need to proof nothing because Mareexaan or Darood don't live in Saaylac. I know because I've been there".

[The_Emperior5]

i have been to seylac 2004 i never seen a merexaan there

i only seen samaroon ciise and some left over canfar there

[djibsomali]

ladies and gentlemen,
marehan lives in a part of gedo samarone lives and has lived in awdal since year dot.

the distance between gedo and awdal are over 1000 miles.

at this rate of rational we will come to conclusion that aidid was not habar gidir but a marehan.
and he loved marehan so much he married a marehan and still live in gedo.


there is no doubt that marehan has participate in imam gurey army.
put to make it as a marehan is a far fetched idea.

unlike you guys i do have the futuhu al habash (the conquest of abysinia) in my collection.
and as i am working now untill thursday.

give me untill thusday to give you a glimpse of the history why there are Archaeology find of 50,000 homes which were excuvated recently in the area of amoud (where amoud university is at the moment).
and not in Baardheera and Balad Xaawo which is located in gedo.

so please hold your horses before you make a fool of yourself.
and do not bring shame to your noble clan of marehan

[Starscream]

Dawladsade,

Stop responding to the Fool-of-Awdal, he's wasting your time man!

[Somali2003]

Marehan folks, no need for you to convince very hard people who believe that their history was stolen and distorted by Siyad Bare. Some of them even believe that Siyad Bare paid European historian to write Darod History. They are in a state of denial, but save your documents for further reference.

If you would have restricted Ahmed Gurey's clan to being just Darod, you wouldn't be toiling hard to defend his honor by now. Laakin Somalidu waxay ku maahmaad, wax badso wax beel bey keentaa. Waxaana ka wadaa, let Ahmed Gurey be Daarod.

Awdal-King, the whole Darod nation emigrated from Sanag to Ogaden to the south and up to Kenya. The Adal was previously from Zeylac to all the way Bari, so don't be misled by the newly coined region "Awdal" which derives its name from Adal. The most significant groups particpated in the Grans' campaign were Harti, Marehan, and Geri. From Dir(which means the rest of the entire Somalia) only Habar Magadle participated but they were not significant as the three groups mentioned.