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Should somali schools teach evolution?

 
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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MJ-Pride wrote:
ibroX wrote:
1nemansquad wrote:So now you also don't think God exists?
Can you prove to me that he does?

That as as stupid as asking you to prove if whoever created your laptop exists. Everything thats there, there is something behind it. Something just can't surface without a backbone
Oh yeah? What about popcorns?
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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KlashneFolk wrote:
Oh yeah? What about popcorns?
LMAO :lol:

those too
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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ibroX wrote:LOL.

I love it when people point to the Koran as proof of God's existence, or when they say that God's existence is obvious and in front of your eyes. Neither of these things is evidence! Again, either produce evidence of God's existence or admit that you can't prove it--all you have is superstition.
They are evidence. A book which hasn't been changed

and the universe around you, which you will never fully be able to explain based on science alone
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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KlashneFolk wrote:
Oh yeah? What about popcorns?
Its comes from heating. You dont' heat it, you won't get it. Simple :up:
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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MJ-Pride wrote:
KlashneFolk wrote:
Oh yeah? What about popcorns?
Its comes from heating. You dont' heat it, you won't get it. Simple :up:
My microwave is made in China. I always get low quality ones
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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MJ-Pride wrote:
ibroX wrote:
1nemansquad wrote:So now you also don't think God exists?
Can you prove to me that he does?

That as as stupid as asking you to prove if whoever created your laptop exists. Everything thats there, there is something behind it. Something just can't surface without a backbone
But I can absolutely know that the people who created my laptop exist. Laptops don't make themselves. But you can't extend this to the entire universe and say the universe didn't make itself and was creator by God, because then the question becomes...what created God? You will then say, well, God was never created--he simply always existed. I will then reply, well, why can't you extend perpetual existence to our own universe? Maybe the universe always existed (well actually the big bang theory says the that the universe had a beginning billions and billions of years ago but you know what I mean--perhaps all that matter and energy that produced the universe were always in existence). How will you then rationalize away this line of reasoning?
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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FAH1223 wrote:
ibroX wrote:LOL.

I love it when people point to the Koran as proof of God's existence, or when they say that God's existence is obvious and in front of your eyes. Neither of these things is evidence! Again, either produce evidence of God's existence or admit that you can't prove it--all you have is superstition.
They are evidence. A book which hasn't been changed

and the universe around you, which you will never fully be able to explain based on science alone
Haha, what does it matter that the Koran never changed? A falsehood is a falsehood regardless of whether or not it is consistently told over a millinium and some.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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ibroX wrote:I will then reply, well, why can't you extend perpetual existence to our own universe? Maybe the universe always existed (well actually the big bang theory says the that the universe had a beginning billions and billions of years ago but you know what I mean--perhaps all that matter and energy that produced the universe were always in existence). How will you then rationalize away this line of reasoning?

Harun Yahya:

Materialism: A 19th-Century Fallacy

The reality of the creation of which we speak has been ignored or denied since the earliest times by a particular philosophical point of view. It is called "materialism". This philosophy, which was originally formulated among the ancient Greeks, has also made an appearance from time to time in other cultures and has been advanced by individuals as well. It holds that matter alone exists and that it has done so for an infinity of time. From these tenets, it claims that the universe has also "always" existed and was not created.

In addition to their claim that the universe exists in an infinity of time, materialists also assert that there is no purpose or aim in the universe. They claim that all the equilibrium, harmony and order that we see around us are merely the product of coincidence. This "coincidence assertion" is also put forward when the question of how human beings came into being comes up. The theory of evolution, widely referred to as Darwinism, is another application of materialism to the natural world.

We just mentioned that some of the founders of modern science were faithful people who were in agreement that the universe was created and organised by Allah. In the 19th century, an important change took place in the attitudes of the scientific world with respect to this matter. Materialism was deliberately introduced to the agenda of modern science by various groups. Because the 19th century's political and social conditions formed a good basis for materialism, the philosophy gained wide acceptance and spread throughout the scientific world.

The findings of modern science however undeniably demonstrate how false the claims of materialism really are.



The Findings of 20th-Century Science


Let us recall the two assertions of materialism about the universe:

* The universe exists in infinite time and, because it has no beginning or end, it was not created.

* Everything in this universe is merely the result of chance and not the product of any intentional design, plan, or vision.

Those two notions were boldly advanced and ardently defended by 19th-century materialists, who of course had no recourse other than to depend upon the limited and unsophisticated scientific knowledge of their day. Both have been utterly refuted by the discoveries of 20th-century science.

The first to be laid in the grave was the notion of the universe existing in infinite time. Since the 1920s, there has been mounting evidence this cannot be true. Scientists are now certain that the universe came into being from nothingness as the result of an unimaginably huge explosion, known as the "Big Bang". In other words, the universe came into being-or rather, it was created by Allah.

The 20th century has also witnessed the demolition of the second claim of materialism: that everything in the universe is the result of chance and not design. Research conducted since the 1960s consistently demonstrates that all the physical equilibriums of the universe in general and of our world in particularly are intricately designed to make life possible. As this research deepened, it was discovered each and every one of the laws of physics, chemistry, and biology, of the fundamental forces such as gravity and electromagnetism, and of the details of the structure of atoms and the elements of the universe has been precisely tailored so that human beings may live. Scientists today call this extraordinary design the "anthropic principle". This is the principle that every detail in the universe has been carefully arranged to make human life possible.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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I don't have more than a few minutes to debate here, so I'll make the following points:

Question: "Why isn't there a new species forming?"
Answer: It takes millions of years at the very least to create a new species. Human history has been recorded for the last few thousand years, that's not nearly enough time to see a middle species. And to add, Neanderthals WERE the middle species between man and ape, but we wiped them out. The extinction of Neanderthals happened 28,000 years ago and we weren't really writing records at that point, but science has proven it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/19 ... 072728.htm


But, enough of the debating. The real reason I want evolution to be taught to skinny youth is because they are irrational and ignorant as of now. They don't work and they are hoping for a miracle to save them. But evolution teaches rationality and reality. That's what skinnies need.

I'll elaborate later.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Some ppl are clearly more lost than i thought :|


btw the Muslims Schools here teach Evolution because the children have to be aware of the existense of other theories.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Enlightened~Sista wrote:Some ppl are clearly more lost than i thought :|


btw the Muslims Schools here teach Evolution because the children have to be aware of the existense of other theories.
Nice. I bet that country is successful unlike Xaarmalia.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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You need to be banned.

You're not as bad as ppl say..you are much much worse.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Enlightened~Sista wrote:Some ppl are clearly more lost than i thought :|


btw the Muslims Schools here teach Evolution because the children have to be aware of the existense of other theories.
Exactly.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

Post by Boqor__Daarod »

darwin looked like a ape but my fore fathers did not

produce one scientific to back up darwins theory.

it is a theory and only a theory for 150 years the atheist could not even find one scientific evidence while countless of counter- evidence were found to refute this claim of his.
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Re: Should somali schools teach evolution?

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Cawar wrote:My vies is Yes...cos Evolution doesnt neccessarily contradict religion.

b.s no wonder ur a xabashi loving gaal :)
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