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Guryasame what do you about our Doctor- yallaxo explanation that:
"you do not need a nikax to have halaal baby" ?

Dalton wrote:

Firefly wrote:^ The concept of Original Sin doesn't exist in Islam.

Then if Adam & Eve were thrown out of Eden to Earth because of their mistake, what on Earth have we done to be here?

Allah created us to worship him ,he planned this all out prior.

guryasame wrote:The discussion here has nothing to do with the original sin.

I don't mean to offend, but your posts come off as strikingly irrelevant (so far as this one and the one before are concerned).
I didn't mention the discussion. In fact, it's the discussion you have brought into the thread that you are telling me has nothing
to do with the so-called Original Sin. If so, then why on Earth did you post it? Now cut that crap and answer the question I've
asked relevantly: if Adam & Eve were thrown out of Eden to Earth because of their mistake, what have we done to be here?

grandpakhalif wrote:

Dalton wrote:

Firefly wrote:^ The concept of Original Sin doesn't exist in Islam.

Then if Adam & Eve were thrown out of Eden to Earth because of their mistake, what on Earth have we done to be here?

Allah created us to worship him, he planned this all out prior.

Fair enough, but I hope you realise it raises lots of questions. For example, I can then say that Adam & Eve didn't at all make a mistake; as God planned it all prior to their existence,
they did what they did because they couldn't do otherwise. Also, it means that Satan (then a righteous being) was deliberately misguided, as his refusal to recognise man was part of
God's plan. Even more to the point, it means most of our misery today is a part of a grand plan that have no power over. It basically opens up a whole range of theological paradoxes.

Dalton wrote:

Firefly wrote:^ The concept of Original Sin doesn't exist in Islam.

Then if Adam & Eve were thrown out of Eden to Earth because of their mistake, what on Earth have we done to be here?

Adam cs is exonerated, we are here because it was predetermined for mankind a period of internment on earth, as a period of test. You can understand what transpired in paradise as the first lesson, rather than as the fault of Adam cs. The internment on earth and the deprival of paradise and enduring of suffering as a means of fully understanding the original of mankind which is paradise, see u can't fully appreciate paradise without being on earth, in the same way u can't fully the meaning of pain if u have not experience the lack of it, and u can't fully understand goodness without being shown a contrasting lack of it or evil. In other words, the earthearth is preparation for paradise....the humanity that achieves it will never be deprived of it, they have completed their journey with full understanding of Allah and paradise or the abode his nearness.

If u were given the kingdoms of this world and all its luxuries the dweller of paradise wouldnot exchange it for a second or even less of a moment in paradise. The dweller of hell would gladly exchange all the worldly kingdoms and luxuries to be spared the smallest moment in hell.

djibsomali wrote:Guryasame what do you about our Doctor- yallaxo explanation that:
"you do not need a nikax to have halaal baby" ?

Djibouti:

What I understand from Dr Yalaxow is that he makes his own laws and his faulty logic supersedes the tenents in the quran. He uses what he deems as exceptions such as "those who your right hand possesses" as away to reach unwarranted conclusions and introduce his own law. He stoops to even maligning religion, even introducing rape, in the harmonious relationship islam establishes between man and his wive.

I think my friend is more determined in his error than I bargained for.

guryasame wrote:

djibsomali wrote:Guryasame what do you about our Doctor- yallaxo explanation that:
"you do not need a nikax to have halaal baby" ?

Djibouti:

What I understand from Dr Yalaxow is that he makes his own laws and his faulty logic supersedes the tenents in the quran. He uses what he deems as exceptions such as "those who your right hand possesses" as away to reach unwarranted conclusions and introduce his own law. He stoops to even maligning religion, even introducing rape, in the harmonious relationship islam establishes between man and his wive.

I think my friend is more determined in his error than I bargained for.

When i probed our Dr-yallaxo on what constitute a bastard his response was

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:BASTARD= if the person was born out of nikaaax or whit out nikaaax then the person is wacal.

However the response that came after his own definition was.
It is ok to have children out of weedlock.

The whole purpose of this thread was the alarming case of somali society who are producing bastards kids!
Ain't that a major trajedy??

if two adult COMMIT zinaa and result of zinaa becomes a new child then, its ALLAH decision that the child is born in to this world whit out nikaaax. the child wax danbi ah haba yaraatee ma laha.
markuu weynaado wiilka ama gabadha yar ee aan nikaaxa ku dhalan, waxay 100% la siman tahay kuwa nikaaxa ku dhashey. wiilka nikaax la,aanta ku dhashey SALAAD wuu hogaamin karaa. xaqiisa 100% wuxuu la siman yahay midka nikaaxa ku dhasha. laakiin zinadii ay sameeyeen 2 adult peoples taa waa loo heeystaa dadkii sameeyey, laakiin child ay dhaleen wax danbi ah kuma laha, mana haboona xitaa in GARAC AMA WACAL AMA wax kale loogu yeero. waayo DANBI isaga kuma laha. laba qafood is BIIQDEY.

Dr-yalloxo why are you contracding yourself??

Hortaa, does the bastard have any rigth in the inheritance?

Garacuu dhaxlkaa muu kaa qeybgalii karaa??

djibsomali wrote:Dr-yalloxo why are you contracding yourself??

Hortaa, does the bastard have any rigth in the inheritance?

Garacuu dhaxlkaa muu kaa qeybgalii karaa??

of course if aabaha dhaley childka nikaax la,aanta ku dhashey hadduu ogol yahay inuuu dhalay wiilkaan ama gabadhan xitaa whit out nikaax.
sababtuna waxay tahay AABAHA hooyada uureeyey masalan DNA ayaa laga qaadey childka ay kuu dhashey DNA gii wuxuu yiri( your a father) marka maxaad ugu diideysaa dhaxalka

inheritance

WIILKA AAD ADIGA DHASHEY.


KA WARAN IF THAT CHILD IS THE ONLY CHILD YOU GOT AND you have in the bank one million dollars, markaad dhimato soo MILLION DOLLARKAAS wax kama siineysid wiilka aad dhashey ku dhal nikaax la,aan ama nikaax. thats my opinion.

laakiiin DIINIYAN waa sheeko dheeer qilaaaf baddan waa jiraaa.

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:

djibsomali wrote:Dr-yalloxo why are you contracding yourself??

Hortaa, does the bastard have any rigth in the inheritance?

Garacuu dhaxlkaa muu kaa qeybgalii karaa??

of course if aabaha dhaley childka nikaax la,aanta ku dhashey hadduu ogol yahay inuuu dhalay wiilkaan ama gabadhan xitaa whit out nikaax.
sababtuna waxay tahay AABAHA hooyada uureeyey masalan DNA ayaa laga qaadey childka ay kuu dhashey DNA gii wuxuu yiri( your a father) marka maxaad ugu diideysaa dhaxalka

inheritance

WIILKA AAD ADIGA DHASHEY.


KA WARAN IF THAT CHILD IS THE ONLY CHILD YOU GOT AND you have in the bank one million dollars, markaad dhimato soo MILLION DOLLARKAAS wax kama siineysid wiilka aad dhashey ku dhal nikaax la,aan ama nikaax. thats my opinion.

laakiiin DIINIYAN waa sheeko dheeer qilaaaf baddan waa jiraaa.

I have just seen you last line of your comment!

Adiguu maa sidaa dintuu rabtaa missee siduu Dr-yallaxow rabaa??

diinta waxyaalo baddan ayey qabtaa oo qof WALIBA si u tarjunto. adiga shiicada mutcah ayaad qabtaan sidoo kale wahaabiyada mutcah wax u eg ay qabaan.

sidoo kale waxaa jirta(ay maa malakat aymaanakum) dhamaan qeyb bahaas NIKAAX la,aan ayaad naag caruur uga dhali kartaa.

ma garatey. laakiin diinta laba qof xur ah ma qabto inay NIKAAX LA,AAN ISUGU TAGAAN. sidoo kale DIINTA MA QABTO cunuga ama caruurta ku dhalata NIKAAX LA,AAN in la midab takooro waayo iyaga DANBIGA ma laha.

caruurta maaha kuwa zineeystey, marka maxaa laga rabaa, OF COURSE inheritance WAA UU LEEYAHAY ACCORDING ISLAM BECOUSE ISLAMKA WAA KA SOO HORJEEDAA CUNSURIYADA.

DIINTA ISLAAMKA DAD AYAA AAMISAN GABAR 9 JIR IN LA GUURSAN KARO. LAAKIIN CAQLIGA SALIIIMKA QOFKII 9 JIR HAWEEYSTA WAA KUWA CIYAALKA FARAXUMEEYA.

marka diinta islaamka sideedaba waa waxa caqliga saliimka ah gala, sidaa darteed cunsiriyad qof aan danbi laheeyn ma banaana.

DR-YALAXOOW wrote: ma garatey. laakiin diinta laba qof xur ah ma qabto inay NIKAAX LA,AAN ISUGU TAGAAN. ..

Miyaynaan somalida ooh dhaan xoor ahayn??

That is what the thread was all about, somali society are producing bastard childs. (obviously somali in western world are all free)
Why are they given birth to bastard children???

yes soomaalida waa xur waana run gabdho soomaali ah caruur GARACYO ah dhala waa jiraan, laakiin danbiga ma laha CHILDKA ay dhasho ee danbiga waxaa leh labadii qafoood ADULT ahaa ee zinaa sameeyey. caruur zinadaa haka dhasho ama yuusan ka dhalan!

marka suaasha waa back in somalia BASTARD CHILD waa la cunsuriyeeyaa waa run. laakiin DANBIGA ma laha caruurta noocaa ku dhalata, sidoo kale BADANAA 90% BASTARD CHILD somalia markuu GREW UP NOQDO wuxuu yeeshaa badanaa TOL bulshadana waa iska ilaawdaa qofkan inuu garac yahay ama in kale.

suaaal?

waligaa ma aragtey NIN 30 JIR ama naag 30 jir ah oo la leeyahay WAA GARAC?
MAY aniga ma arag xitaa hadii aad tiraahdo adigo og qof markuu yaraa garac ahaa qofkan waa GARAC MARKII 30 JIR YAHAY. waxaa lagu oranayaa nin yahoow XAASIDNIMADA JOOJI maka maseeyrsan tahay ninkan, muxuu kaa sameeyey.

qof ku rumeysanaysa ma jirto. marka badanaa bulshada soomaalida bastard child markuu yar yahay ayuu yahay markii adult noqdo qofka wuxuu noqdaa qof la aqbaley normal ah.

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:yes soomaalida waa xur waana run gabdho soomaali ah caruur GARACYO ah dhala waa jiraan, laakiin danbiga ma laha CHILDKA ay dhasho ee danbiga waxaa leh labadii qafoood ADULT ahaa ee zinaa sameeyey. caruur zinadaa haka dhasho ama yuusan ka dhalan!

marka suaasha waa back in somalia BASTARD CHILD waa la cunsuriyeeyaa waa run. laakiin DANBIGA ma laha caruurta noocaa ku dhalata, sidoo kale BADANAA 90% BASTARD CHILD somalia markuu GREW UP NOQDO wuxuu yeeshaa badanaa TOL bulshadana waa iska ilaawdaa qofkan inuu garac yahay ama in kale.

suaaal?

waligaa ma aragtey NIN 30 JIR ama naag 30 jir ah oo la leeyahay WAA GARAC?
MAY aniga ma arag xitaa hadii aad tiraahdo adigo og qof markuu yaraa garac ahaa qofkan waa GARAC MARKII 30 JIR YAHAY. waxaa lagu oranayaa nin yahoow XAASIDNIMADA JOOJI maka maseeyrsan tahay ninkan, muxuu kaa sameeyey.

qof ku rumeysanaysa ma jirto. marka badanaa bulshada soomaalida bastard child markuu yar yahay ayuu yahay markii adult noqdo qofka wuxuu noqdaa qof la aqbaley normal ah.

Ninyahoo hadaa ayaan isku soo dhawaneynaa.

Suashadaa hadaa kaa jawaboo.

In my opinion once a bastard always a bastard.
The reason is, there is no age that have been set either in islam or in somali culture that once a child get to that age, then he/she outgrow the bastardnimoo.

For that reason. Yes untill that person die, he/she is a bastard